Re: [asterisk-users] Best Hardware for Asterisk Server?

2007-01-03 Thread Derek Whitten
joe a. wrote:
 Mark Greene[EMAIL PROTECTED] Wrote on: 1/2/2007 12:58 PM:
 I believe I am going to start out with some refurbished Dell Poweredge
 servers. They have had a high success rate with a friend.
 
 I was going to go that route as well.  But, depends on the model.  I have 
 several of the Poweredge 2300/2400 variety and these seem problematic.  I 
 could not get the final compile steps to perform on the 2400, for instance.  
 Forget the exact issue.
 
 Also, these models, at least, do not directly support IDE drives, such as 
 CD/DVD items.  You are limited to SCSI versions, or trying to hack in an IDE 
 controller.  Which is fine, I guess, if all your source/install software is 
 on CD.  Or until the CDdrive fails and you have to hunt up a SCSI version.
 
 I've not seen, at any price, scsi versions of DVD drives.  I am looking at 
 the ACARD AEC7720-U IDE-SCSI bridge (converter) to get over that.
 
 joe a.
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lots of companies make scsi dvd drives -- g00gl3 is your friend...

http://www.google.com/search?hl=enq=scsi+dvdbtnG=Google+Search





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Re: [asterisk-users] Best Hardware for Asterisk Server?

2007-01-03 Thread Derek Whitten
Colin Anderson wrote:
 ASUS motherboards, in particular, have worked for me perfectly, everytime
 with both Digium and Sangoma cards. They are also easy to work with and well
 documented. 
 
 -Original Message-
 From: Doug [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Tuesday, January 02, 2007 1:04 PM
 To: Asterisk Users Mailing List - Non-Commercial Discussion
 Subject: Re: [asterisk-users] Best Hardware for Asterisk Server?
 
 
 At 07:20 1/2/2007, Mark Greene, wrote:
 Hey guys,

 In your experience what is the best way to go for a production 
 asterisk box in your offices? With desktop prices so cheap you might 
 think that you should just buy them off the shelf, but is that 
 really a reliable machine? Anything you can tell me that would 
 assist me in deciding the best way to obtain and maintain these 
 boxes would be very helpful. I have even looked into building system 
 myself that have no moving parts, but for about the same price I can 
 build an immensely more powerful machine WITH moving parts.

 - Mark
 
 Case:
 1 CodeGen 4U Server Case $80
 http://tinyurl.com/bnobz
 http://tinyurl.com/95s2b
 
 Power Supply:
 1 Dual 450 W. Power supply  -- IStar
 https://www.ewiz.com/detail.php?name=PS-TC50R8A
 http://www.directron.com/tc400r8.html
 
 Motherboard, CPU  2GB of memory:
 http://www.mwave.com/mwave/skusearch.hmx?scriteria=MB-BA23083
 http://www.mwave.com/mwave/viewspec.hmx?scriteria=BA21409
 
 2 Hard Drives in RAID 1 config:
 http://www.mwave.com/mwave/viewspec.hmx?scriteria=AA48770
 
 Digium card:
 2 port, 64 bit, 3.3 volt 
 
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no problems on my proliant DL580





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Re: [asterisk-users] Best Hardware for Asterisk Server?

2007-01-03 Thread Steve Edwards

On Wed, 3 Jan 2007, Derek Whitten wrote:


no problems on my proliant DL580


Nothing but problems with my DL380's until I ran a non-SMP kernel.

Thanks in advance,

Steve Edwards  [EMAIL PROTECTED]  Voice: +1-760-468-3867 PST
Newline Fax: +1-760-731-3000
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Re: [asterisk-users] Best Hardware for Asterisk Server?

2007-01-03 Thread Derek Whitten
Steve Edwards wrote:
 On Wed, 3 Jan 2007, Derek Whitten wrote:
 
 no problems on my proliant DL580
 
 Nothing but problems with my DL380's until I ran a non-SMP kernel.
 
 Thanks in advance,
 
 Steve Edwards  [EMAIL PROTECTED]  Voice: +1-760-468-3867 PST
 Newline Fax: +1-760-731-3000
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this one is 2x700mhz xeons 2gb ram running freebsd



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Re: [asterisk-users] Best Hardware for Asterisk Server?

2007-01-03 Thread joe a.
 lots of companies make scsi dvd drives -- g00gl3 is your friend...
 
 http://www.google.com/search?hl=enq=scsi+dvdbtnG=Google+Search 
 

Well, who'd have thought?   All my ususal suppliers said no one makes them.  

joe a.

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[asterisk-users] Best Hardware for Asterisk Server?

2007-01-02 Thread Mark Greene

Hey guys,

In your experience what is the best way to go for a production asterisk box
in your offices? With desktop prices so cheap you might think that you
should just buy them off the shelf, but is that really a reliable machine?
Anything you can tell me that would assist me in deciding the best way to
obtain and maintain these boxes would be very helpful. I have even looked
into building system myself that have no moving parts, but for about the
same price I can build an immensely more powerful machine WITH moving parts.


- Mark
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Re: [asterisk-users] Best Hardware for Asterisk Server?

2007-01-02 Thread chester c young
--- Mark Greene [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Hey guys,
 
 In your experience what is the best way to go for a production
 asterisk box in your offices? 

(In the US) I have had very good luck with Opterons in Tyson rackmounts
bought from Newegg.

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Re: [asterisk-users] Best Hardware for Asterisk Server?

2007-01-02 Thread Gordon Henderson

On Tue, 2 Jan 2007, Mark Greene wrote:


Hey guys,

In your experience what is the best way to go for a production asterisk box
in your offices? With desktop prices so cheap you might think that you
should just buy them off the shelf, but is that really a reliable machine?
Anything you can tell me that would assist me in deciding the best way to
obtain and maintain these boxes would be very helpful. I have even looked
into building system myself that have no moving parts, but for about the
same price I can build an immensely more powerful machine WITH moving parts.


The best hardware is the hardware that you're most familiar with - the 
hardware they you know will be reliable and know how to fix it if/when

it goes wrong.

And yes, you do end up paying slightly more (sometimes) for smaller, 
quieter, and no-moving parts kit. It's all to do with volume of sales I 
guess!


If you have a computer/comms room with servers, etc. already in-place, 
then noise isn't going to be an issue for you, but you still want 
reliability. So if you are having moving parts (ie. disks!) then get two 
and run them in a RAID-1 (mirror) configuration. Think about redundant 
PSUs. (and UPS - and UPS the Ethernet switch, and think about PoE) Fit 
good ball bearing fans and if building it yourself, good thermal grease. 
Soaktest the system before it goes live.


For some production machines, I'm using mini-ITX boards - 1GHz processors, 
fanless, diskless (boot off flash) but they aren't without their 
limitations (I doubt they'd be happy in a 100-extension office for example 
;-)


But I am currently looking at a 150-line system, but I'm still going to 
boot it off flash, just to reduce one failure point in the system...


Gordon
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Re: [asterisk-users] Best Hardware for Asterisk Server?

2007-01-02 Thread Mark Greene

I believe I am going to start out with some refurbished Dell Poweredge
servers. They have had a high success rate with a friend.
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Re: [asterisk-users] Best Hardware for Asterisk Server?

2007-01-02 Thread joe a.
Mark Greene[EMAIL PROTECTED] Wrote on: 1/2/2007 12:58 PM:
 I believe I am going to start out with some refurbished Dell Poweredge
 servers. They have had a high success rate with a friend.

I was going to go that route as well.  But, depends on the model.  I have 
several of the Poweredge 2300/2400 variety and these seem problematic.  I could 
not get the final compile steps to perform on the 2400, for instance.  Forget 
the exact issue.

Also, these models, at least, do not directly support IDE drives, such as 
CD/DVD items.  You are limited to SCSI versions, or trying to hack in an IDE 
controller.  Which is fine, I guess, if all your source/install software is on 
CD.  Or until the CDdrive fails and you have to hunt up a SCSI version.

I've not seen, at any price, scsi versions of DVD drives.  I am looking at the 
ACARD AEC7720-U IDE-SCSI bridge (converter) to get over that.

joe a.
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RE: [asterisk-users] Best Hardware for Asterisk Server?

2007-01-02 Thread Michael Collins
 I believe I am going to start out with some refurbished Dell Poweredge

 servers. They have had a high success rate with a friend. 

One word of caution: some have had various hardware issues getting
certain telephony cards to work with certain Dell PowerEdge servers.  If
you aren't going to have telephony cards in your system, i.e. VoIP-only
setup, then you're probably good to go.  If not, do a list search on
Dell PowerEdge and review the feedback given by those who've already
been where you are now.  Hopefully their experience will save you time,
money, and the occasional headache!

-MC
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Re: [asterisk-users] Best Hardware for Asterisk Server?

2007-01-02 Thread Doug

At 07:20 1/2/2007, Mark Greene, wrote:

Hey guys,

In your experience what is the best way to go for a production 
asterisk box in your offices? With desktop prices so cheap you might 
think that you should just buy them off the shelf, but is that 
really a reliable machine? Anything you can tell me that would 
assist me in deciding the best way to obtain and maintain these 
boxes would be very helpful. I have even looked into building system 
myself that have no moving parts, but for about the same price I can 
build an immensely more powerful machine WITH moving parts.


- Mark


Case:
1 CodeGen 4U Server Case $80
http://tinyurl.com/bnobz
http://tinyurl.com/95s2b

Power Supply:
1 Dual 450 W. Power supply  -- IStar
https://www.ewiz.com/detail.php?name=PS-TC50R8A
http://www.directron.com/tc400r8.html

Motherboard, CPU  2GB of memory:
http://www.mwave.com/mwave/skusearch.hmx?scriteria=MB-BA23083
http://www.mwave.com/mwave/viewspec.hmx?scriteria=BA21409

2 Hard Drives in RAID 1 config:
http://www.mwave.com/mwave/viewspec.hmx?scriteria=AA48770

Digium card:
2 port, 64 bit, 3.3 volt 


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RE: [asterisk-users] Best Hardware for Asterisk Server?

2007-01-02 Thread Colin Anderson
ASUS motherboards, in particular, have worked for me perfectly, everytime
with both Digium and Sangoma cards. They are also easy to work with and well
documented. 

-Original Message-
From: Doug [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, January 02, 2007 1:04 PM
To: Asterisk Users Mailing List - Non-Commercial Discussion
Subject: Re: [asterisk-users] Best Hardware for Asterisk Server?


At 07:20 1/2/2007, Mark Greene, wrote:
Hey guys,

In your experience what is the best way to go for a production 
asterisk box in your offices? With desktop prices so cheap you might 
think that you should just buy them off the shelf, but is that 
really a reliable machine? Anything you can tell me that would 
assist me in deciding the best way to obtain and maintain these 
boxes would be very helpful. I have even looked into building system 
myself that have no moving parts, but for about the same price I can 
build an immensely more powerful machine WITH moving parts.

- Mark

Case:
1 CodeGen 4U Server Case $80
http://tinyurl.com/bnobz
http://tinyurl.com/95s2b

Power Supply:
1 Dual 450 W. Power supply  -- IStar
https://www.ewiz.com/detail.php?name=PS-TC50R8A
http://www.directron.com/tc400r8.html

Motherboard, CPU  2GB of memory:
http://www.mwave.com/mwave/skusearch.hmx?scriteria=MB-BA23083
http://www.mwave.com/mwave/viewspec.hmx?scriteria=BA21409

2 Hard Drives in RAID 1 config:
http://www.mwave.com/mwave/viewspec.hmx?scriteria=AA48770

Digium card:
2 port, 64 bit, 3.3 volt 

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Re: [asterisk-users] Best Hardware for Asterisk Server?

2007-01-02 Thread Mark Greene

Wow Doug thanks for the specs. This has really helped.
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RE: [asterisk-users] Best Hardware for Asterisk Server?

2007-01-02 Thread Gordon Henderson

On Tue, 2 Jan 2007, Colin Anderson wrote:


ASUS motherboards, in particular, have worked for me perfectly, everytime
with both Digium and Sangoma cards. They are also easy to work with and well
documented.


I'd second that. I've been using Asus motherboards for over 10 years now 
in various LAMP type servers and desktop PCs.


Gordon
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