Re: [asterisk-users] Case-sensitivity of Dialplan variables.

2012-10-03 Thread Hans Witvliet
On Tue, 2012-10-02 at 17:11 -0700, Ira wrote: At 02:19 PM 10/1/2012, you wrote: So respond here and let me know what you think. I got a couple of replies on the -dev list and they said that this would be good to put out on the -users list too. Mark Michelson In true Republican fashion,

Re: [asterisk-users] Case-sensitivity of Dialplan variables.

2012-10-03 Thread Ira
At 07:59 PM 10/2/2012, you wrote: Given that many of the users were not programmers and didn't likely grow up in a case sensitive world I'd also vote for case insensitivity. I fall into that category, I grew up with dBase, Clipper and VB and case issues get me all the time when I program in

Re: [asterisk-users] Case-sensitivity of Dialplan variables.

2012-10-03 Thread giovanni.v
Il 01/10/2012 23.15, Mark Michelson ha scritto: https://issues.asterisk.org/jira/browse/ASTERISK-20163 The issue involves case-sensitivity of channel and global variables in the dialplan. +1 for case-sensitive variables everywhere. I'm glad to see that this inconsistency issue will be

Re: [asterisk-users] Case-sensitivity of Dialplan variables.

2012-10-03 Thread A J Stiles
On Monday 01 October 2012, Danny Nicholas wrote: I propose that dialplan variables need to be made consistent in their evaluation. We need to choose either to be always case-sensitive or always case-insensitive. The problem is, I don't know which of these changes would have a larger effect on

Re: [asterisk-users] Case-sensitivity of Dialplan variables.

2012-10-03 Thread kenner
While true that most users are probably not programmers, most people administering Asterisk would be system / network admins, correct? System admins and networking admins are used to working in environments such as Linux where variables and file names are case sensitive. I'm in favor of

Re: [asterisk-users] Case-sensitivity of Dialplan variables.

2012-10-03 Thread Michael L. Young
- Original Message - From: Ira i...@extrasensory.com To: Asterisk Users Mailing List - Non-Commercial Discussion asterisk-users@lists.digium.com Sent: Wednesday, October 3, 2012 3:21:50 AM Subject: Re: [asterisk-users] Case-sensitivity of Dialplan variables. At 07:59 PM 10/2/2012

Re: [asterisk-users] Case-sensitivity of Dialplan variables.

2012-10-03 Thread Raj Mathur (राज माथुर)
On Tuesday 02 Oct 2012, Mark Michelson wrote: [snip] Some of you might be eager to propose a configuration option to decide which it should be. I'm sick of having hundreds of options in Asterisk to slightly tweak the behavior one way or another. This needs to go one way or the other, not be

Re: [asterisk-users] Case-sensitivity of Dialplan variables.

2012-10-03 Thread Matthew Jordan
- Original Message - From: Raj Mathur (राज माथुर) r...@linux-delhi.org To: asterisk-users@lists.digium.com Sent: Wednesday, October 3, 2012 10:49:30 AM Subject: Re: [asterisk-users] Case-sensitivity of Dialplan variables. snip So here's the proposal: make case-insensitivity

Re: [asterisk-users] Case-sensitivity of Dialplan variables.

2012-10-03 Thread Michael L. Young
- Original Message - From: Matthew Jordan mjor...@digium.com To: Asterisk Users Mailing List - Non-Commercial Discussion asterisk-users@lists.digium.com Sent: Wednesday, October 3, 2012 12:17:56 PM Subject: Re: [asterisk-users] Case-sensitivity of Dialplan variables. From Mark's

Re: [asterisk-users] Case-sensitivity of Dialplan variables.

2012-10-03 Thread Leif Madsen
On 02/10/12 09:02 PM, Vladimir Mikhelson wrote: snip First you need to consider compatibility with currently supported packages which include auto-generated dial plans like AsteriskNow, PIAF, etc. If you plan to break their functionality you need to at least coordinate your move with the

Re: [asterisk-users] Case-sensitivity of Dialplan variables.

2012-10-03 Thread Leif Madsen
On 03/10/12 11:49 AM, Raj Mathur (राज माथुर) wrote: In short, my vote goes for case-sensitivity with a grace period for switching over. I disagree. Migrating between major versions should never be something like installing Asterisk 12 over an existing Asterisk 11 (or earlier) system. It

Re: [asterisk-users] Case-sensitivity of Dialplan variables.

2012-10-03 Thread Leif Madsen
On 03/10/12 03:01 PM, Michael L. Young wrote: We are probably a year away from seeing a release for the version of Asterisk where this change would occur. We are two years away from an LTS version of Asterisk. So, I think there would be plenty of time for evaluation and testing to be

Re: [asterisk-users] Case-sensitivity of Dialplan variables.

2012-10-02 Thread j...@millican.us
] Case-sensitivity of Dialplan variables. Hi! I've been confronted with an interesting issue to resolve. The issue is located here: https://issues.asterisk.org/jira/browse/ASTERISK-20163 The issue involves case-sensitivity of channel and global variables in the dialplan. Current behavior

Re: [asterisk-users] Case-sensitivity of Dialplan variables.

2012-10-02 Thread Ira
At 02:19 PM 10/1/2012, you wrote: So respond here and let me know what you think. I got a couple of replies on the -dev list and they said that this would be good to put out on the -users list too. Mark Michelson In true Republican fashion, I'm going to vote for case-insensitivity. Given

Re: [asterisk-users] Case-sensitivity of Dialplan variables.

2012-10-02 Thread Vladimir Mikhelson
On 10/1/2012 4:15 PM, Mark Michelson wrote: Hi! I've been confronted with an interesting issue to resolve. The issue is located here: https://issues.asterisk.org/jira/browse/ASTERISK-20163 The issue involves case-sensitivity of channel and global variables in the dialplan. Current

Re: [asterisk-users] Case-sensitivity of Dialplan variables.

2012-10-02 Thread Michael L. Young
- Original Message - From: Vladimir Mikhelson v...@mikhelson.com To: Asterisk Users Mailing List - Non-Commercial Discussion asterisk-users@lists.digium.com Sent: Tuesday, October 2, 2012 9:02:18 PM Subject: Re: [asterisk-users] Case-sensitivity of Dialplan variables. On 10/1

Re: [asterisk-users] Case-sensitivity of Dialplan variables.

2012-10-02 Thread Warren Selby
On Mon, Oct 1, 2012 at 4:15 PM, Mark Michelson mmichel...@digium.comwrote: Hi! I've been confronted with an interesting issue to resolve. The issue is located here: snip So respond here and let me know what you think. I got a couple of replies on the -dev list and they said that this

Re: [asterisk-users] Case-sensitivity of Dialplan variables.

2012-10-02 Thread Michael L. Young
- Original Message - From: Ira i...@extrasensory.com To: Asterisk Users Mailing List - Non-Commercial Discussion asterisk-users@lists.digium.com Sent: Tuesday, October 2, 2012 8:11:32 PM Subject: Re: [asterisk-users] Case-sensitivity of Dialplan variables. Given that many

Re: [asterisk-users] Case-sensitivity of Dialplan variables.

2012-10-02 Thread Vladimir Mikhelson
On 10/2/2012 9:12 PM, Warren Selby wrote: On Mon, Oct 1, 2012 at 4:15 PM, Mark Michelson mmichel...@digium.com mailto:mmichel...@digium.com wrote: Hi! I've been confronted with an interesting issue to resolve. The issue is located here: snip So respond here and let

Re: [asterisk-users] Case-sensitivity of Dialplan variables.

2012-10-02 Thread Olivier
2012/10/1 Mark Michelson mmichel...@digium.com Hi! I've been confronted with an interesting issue to resolve. The issue is located here: https://issues.asterisk.org/**jira/browse/ASTERISK-20163https://issues.asterisk.org/jira/browse/ASTERISK-20163 The issue involves case-sensitivity of

[asterisk-users] Case-sensitivity of Dialplan variables.

2012-10-01 Thread Mark Michelson
Hi! I've been confronted with an interesting issue to resolve. The issue is located here: https://issues.asterisk.org/jira/browse/ASTERISK-20163 The issue involves case-sensitivity of channel and global variables in the dialplan. Current behavior is as follows: 1) Variables created in the

Re: [asterisk-users] Case-sensitivity of Dialplan variables.

2012-10-01 Thread Danny Nicholas
-Original Message- From: asterisk-users-boun...@lists.digium.com [mailto:asterisk-users-boun...@lists.digium.com] On Behalf Of Mark Michelson Sent: Monday, October 01, 2012 4:15 PM To: asterisk-users@lists.digium.com Subject: [asterisk-users] Case-sensitivity of Dialplan variables. Hi

Re: [asterisk-users] Case-sensitivity of Dialplan variables.

2012-10-01 Thread Jeremy Kister
On 10/1/2012 5:15 PM, Mark Michelson wrote: (HASH would be evaluated properly but hash would not). My personal opinion is that all variable evaluations should be case-sensitive. +1 case insensitivity to accommodate carelessness is evil. much easier for NoOp to tell us SIP_CODEC is unset,