[asterisk-users] DUDE!!!!! was RE: Dialplan Visualization (Extensions.conf or Dialplan Show)
John, Please I know the job of any salesperson is to promote and push their product every chance you get. But please this is as it says in the mailing list name Asterisk Users Mailing List - Non-Commercial Discussion You are more than welcome to advertise your system in the -biz list to your heart's content. I take great pride in making a living in supporting and selling Asterisk based systems (No I don't want to take a look at Cogoblue.com ;-) ) but I also respect the fact that the owners of the list server, the persons that have taken the time to configure and maintain not only Asterisk but this list server as well, have made it a point to segment the lists. I respectfully ask that you follow the list etiquette and refrain for using the -users list for commercial pitches and plugs to your product. Thank you for your understanding and I hope to see you in the *-biz mailing list. Alex From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of John Signorello Sent: Friday, April 18, 2008 9:05 AM Subject: Re: [asterisk-users] Dialplan Visualization (Extensions.conf or Dialplan Show) I do not know if you manage more than one box. But if are setting up multiple boxes, you should look at cogoblue.com It is a fully graphical configuration tool, not just dial plans but every from inbound to IVR's Disclaimer, I work for ISPBX John Matthew Gibson wrote: Hello, About 4 years ago there used to be a script floating around to generate dynamic graphs/diagrams of extensions.conf (the asterisk dialplan). It was using GraphViz to perform the graphing. Does anyone have a copy of this script, or a better solution to generate a flowchart of my dialplan? Thanks, Matt ___ -- Bandwidth and Colocation Provided by http://www.api-digital.com -- asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users ___ -- Bandwidth and Colocation Provided by http://www.api-digital.com -- asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [asterisk-users] DUDE!!!!! was RE: Dialplan Visualization(Extensions.conf or Dialplan Show)
Hey Alex, Take a chill pill dude - he was suggesting it in reply as a solution to someone else's problem. If I ask a question (eg an Outlook dialer) and someone replies with Snapanumber then that's an appropriate response. Yes I've posted about Mexuar last year when I worked for them but only in reply to someone asking a question about click to call. This may not be an appropriate place to market/advertise commercial products but it's not like you cant mention a single product by name. Especially when it was so obvious this was a solution to the guys question. Happy Friday all :-) Regards, Dean Collins Cognation Pty Ltd [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] +1-212-203-4357 Ph +61-2-9016-5642 (Sydney in-dial). From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Alexander Lopez Sent: Friday, 18 April 2008 9:21 AM To: Asterisk Users Mailing List - Non-Commercial Discussion Subject: [asterisk-users] DUDE! was RE: Dialplan Visualization(Extensions.conf or Dialplan Show) John, Please I know the job of any salesperson is to promote and push their product every chance you get. But please this is as it says in the mailing list name Asterisk Users Mailing List - Non-Commercial Discussion You are more than welcome to advertise your system in the -biz list to your heart's content. I take great pride in making a living in supporting and selling Asterisk based systems (No I don't want to take a look at Cogoblue.com ;-) ) but I also respect the fact that the owners of the list server, the persons that have taken the time to configure and maintain not only Asterisk but this list server as well, have made it a point to segment the lists. I respectfully ask that you follow the list etiquette and refrain for using the -users list for commercial pitches and plugs to your product. Thank you for your understanding and I hope to see you in the *-biz mailing list. Alex From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of John Signorello Sent: Friday, April 18, 2008 9:05 AM Subject: Re: [asterisk-users] Dialplan Visualization (Extensions.conf or Dialplan Show) I do not know if you manage more than one box. But if are setting up multiple boxes, you should look at cogoblue.com It is a fully graphical configuration tool, not just dial plans but every from inbound to IVR's Disclaimer, I work for ISPBX John Matthew Gibson wrote: Hello, About 4 years ago there used to be a script floating around to generate dynamic graphs/diagrams of extensions.conf (the asterisk dialplan). It was using GraphViz to perform the graphing. Does anyone have a copy of this script, or a better solution to generate a flowchart of my dialplan? Thanks, Matt ___ -- Bandwidth and Colocation Provided by http://www.api-digital.com -- asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users ___ -- Bandwidth and Colocation Provided by http://www.api-digital.com -- asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [asterisk-users] DUDE!!!!! was RE: Dialplan Visualization(Extensions.conf or Dialplan Show)
Even if you guys want to try to make a gray area out of what is black and white to some of us, it wasn't what the OP wanted or asked for at all... See Tzafrir's post if you cannot comprehend why the solution solicited does not fit Matthew Gibson's request (there is no hammer). Thanks, Steve Totaro On Fri, Apr 18, 2008 at 10:38 AM, Dean Collins [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hey Alex, Take a chill pill dude – he was suggesting it in reply as a solution to someone else's problem. If I ask a question (eg an Outlook dialer) and someone replies with Snapanumber then that's an appropriate response. Yes I've posted about Mexuar last year when I worked for them but only in reply to someone asking a question about click to call. This may not be an appropriate place to market/advertise commercial products but it's not like you cant mention a single product by name. Especially when it was so obvious this was a solution to the guys question. Happy Friday all J Regards, Dean Collins Cognation Pty Ltd [EMAIL PROTECTED] +1-212-203-4357 Ph +61-2-9016-5642 (Sydney in-dial). From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Alexander Lopez Sent: Friday, 18 April 2008 9:21 AM To: Asterisk Users Mailing List - Non-Commercial Discussion Subject: [asterisk-users] DUDE! was RE: Dialplan Visualization(Extensions.conf or Dialplan Show) John, Please I know the job of any salesperson is to promote and push their product every chance you get. But please this is as it says in the mailing list name Asterisk Users Mailing List - Non-Commercial Discussion You are more than welcome to advertise your system in the –biz list to your heart's content. I take great pride in making a living in supporting and selling Asterisk based systems (No I don't want to take a look at Cogoblue.com ;-) ) but I also respect the fact that the owners of the list server, the persons that have taken the time to configure and maintain not only Asterisk but this list server as well, have made it a point to segment the lists. I respectfully ask that you follow the list etiquette and refrain for using the –users list for commercial pitches and plugs to your product. Thank you for your understanding and I hope to see you in the *-biz mailing list. Alex From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of John Signorello Sent: Friday, April 18, 2008 9:05 AM Subject: Re: [asterisk-users] Dialplan Visualization (Extensions.conf or Dialplan Show) I do not know if you manage more than one box. But if are setting up multiple boxes, you should look at cogoblue.com It is a fully graphical configuration tool, not just dial plans but every from inbound to IVR's Disclaimer, I work for ISPBX John Matthew Gibson wrote: Hello, About 4 years ago there used to be a script floating around to generate dynamic graphs/diagrams of extensions.conf (the asterisk dialplan). It was using GraphViz to perform the graphing. Does anyone have a copy of this script, or a better solution to generate a flowchart of my dialplan? Thanks, Matt ___ -- Bandwidth and Colocation Provided by http://www.api-digital.com -- asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users ___ -- Bandwidth and Colocation Provided by http://www.api-digital.com -- asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users ___ -- Bandwidth and Colocation Provided by http://www.api-digital.com -- asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [asterisk-users] DUDE!!!!! was RE: Dialplan Visualization(Extensions.conf or Dialplan Show)
Im sorry but I dont think he answered the users question by trying to hawk commercial products, Id have to agree with alex here even I find grave disdain for people doing this on the non-commercial lists. the guy was asking for a simple script that was at one time available, not a full blow commercial package that does everything plus what he needed. On Fri, Apr 18, 2008 at 9:38 PM, Dean Collins [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hey Alex, Take a chill pill dude – he was suggesting it in reply as a solution to someone else's problem. If I ask a question (eg an Outlook dialer) and someone replies with Snapanumber then that's an appropriate response. Yes I've posted about Mexuar last year when I worked for them but only in reply to someone asking a question about click to call. This may not be an appropriate place to market/advertise commercial products but it's not like you cant mention a single product by name. Especially when it was so obvious this was a solution to the guys question. Happy Friday all J Regards, Dean Collins Cognation Pty Ltd [EMAIL PROTECTED] +1-212-203-4357 Ph +61-2-9016-5642 (Sydney in-dial). -- *From:* [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto: [EMAIL PROTECTED] *On Behalf Of *Alexander Lopez *Sent:* Friday, 18 April 2008 9:21 AM *To:* Asterisk Users Mailing List - Non-Commercial Discussion *Subject:* [asterisk-users] DUDE! was RE: Dialplan Visualization(Extensions.conf or Dialplan Show) John, Please I know the job of any salesperson is to promote and push their product every chance you get. But please this is as it says in the mailing list name Asterisk Users Mailing List - Non-Commercial Discussion You are more than welcome to advertise your system in the –biz list to your heart's content. I take great pride in making a living in supporting and selling Asterisk based systems (No I don't want to take a look at Cogoblue.com ;-) ) but I also respect the fact that the owners of the list server, the persons that have taken the time to configure and maintain not only Asterisk but this list server as well, have made it a point to segment the lists. I respectfully ask that you follow the list etiquette and refrain for using the –users list for commercial pitches and plugs to your product. Thank you for your understanding and I hope to see you in the *-biz mailing list. Alex -- *From:* [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto: [EMAIL PROTECTED] *On Behalf Of *John Signorello *Sent:* Friday, April 18, 2008 9:05 AM *Subject:* Re: [asterisk-users] Dialplan Visualization (Extensions.conf or Dialplan Show) I do not know if you manage more than one box. But if are setting up multiple boxes, you should look at cogoblue.com It is a fully graphical configuration tool, not just dial plans but every from inbound to IVR's Disclaimer, I work for ISPBX John Matthew Gibson wrote: Hello, About 4 years ago there used to be a script floating around to generate dynamic graphs/diagrams of extensions.conf (the asterisk dialplan). It was using GraphViz to perform the graphing. Does anyone have a copy of this script, or a better solution to generate a flowchart of my dialplan? Thanks, Matt -- ___ -- Bandwidth and Colocation Provided by http://www.api-digital.com -- asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users ___ -- Bandwidth and Colocation Provided by http://www.api-digital.com -- asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users ___ -- Bandwidth and Colocation Provided by http://www.api-digital.com -- asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [asterisk-users] DUDE!!!!! was RE: Dialplan Visualization(Extensions.conf or Dialplan Show)
excuse me... But did you not just post [asterisk-users] OT Nice IBM 1U Server Gets Along w/Old and New Digium Boards Cheap X305 $199 Did you not provide a link to a COMMERICAL entity? Wasn't your a post a unsolicited post, that is, not in response to a question??? There seems to be two standards here. The fact that you do not work for them is immaterial. If your argument is no commercial reference at all, then how do you explain your post? Steve Totaro wrote: Even if you guys want to try to make a gray area out of what is black and white to some of us, it wasn't what the OP wanted or asked for at all... See Tzafrir's post if you cannot comprehend why the solution solicited does not fit Matthew Gibson's request (there is no hammer). Thanks, Steve Totaro On Fri, Apr 18, 2008 at 10:38 AM, Dean Collins [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hey Alex, Take a chill pill dude – he was suggesting it in reply as a solution to someone else's problem. If I ask a question (eg an Outlook dialer) and someone replies with Snapanumber then that's an appropriate response. Yes I've posted about Mexuar last year when I worked for them but only in reply to someone asking a question about click to call. This may not be an appropriate place to market/advertise commercial products but it's not like you cant mention a single product by name. Especially when it was so obvious this was a solution to the guys question. Happy Friday all J Regards, Dean Collins Cognation Pty Ltd [EMAIL PROTECTED] +1-212-203-4357 Ph +61-2-9016-5642 (Sydney in-dial). From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Alexander Lopez Sent: Friday, 18 April 2008 9:21 AM To: Asterisk Users Mailing List - Non-Commercial Discussion Subject: [asterisk-users] DUDE! was RE: Dialplan Visualization(Extensions.conf or Dialplan Show) John, Please I know the job of any salesperson is to promote and push their product every chance you get. But please this is as it says in the mailing list name Asterisk Users Mailing List - Non-Commercial Discussion You are more than welcome to advertise your system in the –biz list to your heart's content. I take great pride in making a living in supporting and selling Asterisk based systems (No I don't want to take a look at Cogoblue.com ;-) ) but I also respect the fact that the owners of the list server, the persons that have taken the time to configure and maintain not only Asterisk but this list server as well, have made it a point to segment the lists. I respectfully ask that you follow the list etiquette and refrain for using the –users list for commercial pitches and plugs to your product. Thank you for your understanding and I hope to see you in the *-biz mailing list. Alex From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of John Signorello Sent: Friday, April 18, 2008 9:05 AM Subject: Re: [asterisk-users] Dialplan Visualization (Extensions.conf or Dialplan Show) I do not know if you manage more than one box. But if are setting up multiple boxes, you should look at cogoblue.com It is a fully graphical configuration tool, not just dial plans but every from inbound to IVR's Disclaimer, I work for ISPBX John Matthew Gibson wrote: Hello, About 4 years ago there used to be a script floating around to generate dynamic graphs/diagrams of extensions.conf (the asterisk dialplan). It was using GraphViz to perform the graphing. Does anyone have a copy of this script, or a better solution to generate a flowchart of my dialplan? Thanks, Matt ___ -- Bandwidth and Colocation Provided by http://www.api-digital.com -- asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users ___ -- Bandwidth and Colocation Provided by http://www.api-digital.com -- asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users ___ -- Bandwidth and Colocation Provided by http://www.api-digital.com -- asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users ___ -- Bandwidth and Colocation Provided by http://www.api-digital.com -- asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [asterisk-users] DUDE!!!!! was RE: Dialplan Visualization(Extensions.conf or Dialplan Show)
John Signorello wrote: excuse me... But did you not just post [asterisk-users] OT Nice IBM 1U Server Gets Along w/Old and New Digium Boards Cheap X305 $199 Did you not provide a link to a COMMERICAL entity? Wasn't your a post a unsolicited post, that is, not in response to a question??? There seems to be two standards here. The fact that you do not work for them is immaterial. If your argument is no commercial reference at all, then how do you explain your post? I felt like the cogoblue stuff is out of place and off topic, so I agree that it should not be arbitrarily posted as a solution to any question that it might seem to somehow solve. However, I do not take exception to the IBM server post, even though strict adherence to the rules would probably make it illegal as well. There is an inherent difference between the two. The cogoblue post was made by a paid salesman seeking personal profit indirectly through his company. The server link, on the other hand was marked as OT, it was not posted as a solution to someone's problem, and the poster most likely does not seek to profit personally from the post. Many people in the Asterisk community are on the lookout for inexpensive hardware with enough power to run a decent sized system. So the inherent difference comes down to one post being potentially helpful and the other not being potentially helpful. There wasn't even any obvious mention in cogoblue post that it was, in fact, a commercial product. If most of us weren't familiar with the product already because of the previous over-posting, then one could be slightly misled by the post. And to make matters worse, it triggered a tangent that has completely derailed the OP's thread and taken all focus away from the OP's original question. Just my two sense, Brent ___ -- Bandwidth and Colocation Provided by http://www.api-digital.com -- asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [asterisk-users] DUDE!!!!! was RE: Dialplan Visualization(Extensions.conf or Dialplan Show)
On Fri, Apr 18, 2008 at 11:09 AM, John Signorello [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: excuse me... But did you not just post [asterisk-users] OT Nice IBM 1U Server Gets Along w/Old and New Digium Boards Cheap X305 $199 Did you not provide a link to a COMMERICAL entity? Wasn't your a post a unsolicited post, that is, not in response to a question??? There seems to be two standards here. The fact that you do not work for them is immaterial. If your argument is no commercial reference at all, then how do you explain your post? You may have a point although I was more doing a favor or looking out rather than trying to push my wares on someone where they did not fit. I guess I would say it is different because of intent and presentation. I thought about posting on the biz list but then thought it would better serve many Asterisk users. I certainly was clear in the title that it was a server that cost $199 even if someone did not know that OT was short for Off Topic If anyone has any real objection to my occasional postings of this nature on the users list, then I will certainly keep them to myself. It takes more effort to post something that may be helpful than it does to remain silent. Thanks, Steve Totaro ___ -- Bandwidth and Colocation Provided by http://www.api-digital.com -- asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [asterisk-users] DUDE!!!!! was RE: Dialplan Visualization(Extensions.conf or Dialplan Show)
Quoting Steve Totaro [EMAIL PROTECTED]: You may have a point although I was more doing a favor or looking out rather than trying to push my wares on someone where they did not fit. Thanks, Steve Totaro I for one found your post about the cheap machines very useful and would appreciate them in the future. Because I'm generally interested in Asterisk itself and not the business I don't subscribe to the biz list. Steve T, I think the only reason you were called on this was because the other posters who were violating the spirit of the rules were trying to obfuscate their own issues and you should ignore this. Steve Prior This message was sent using IMP, the Internet Messaging Program. ___ -- Bandwidth and Colocation Provided by http://www.api-digital.com -- asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [asterisk-users] DUDE!!!!! was RE: Dialplan Visualization(Extensions.conf or Dialplan Show)
On Fri, Apr 18, 2008 at 12:04:45PM -0400, Steve Totaro wrote: I certainly was clear in the title that it was a server that cost $199 even if someone did not know that OT was short for Off Topic I missed the post. Link? -- j -- Jay R. Ashworth Baylink [EMAIL PROTECTED] Designer The Things I Think RFC 2100 Ashworth Associates http://baylink.pitas.com '87 e24 St Petersburg FL USA http://photo.imageinc.us +1 727 647 1274 Those who cast the vote decide nothing. Those who count the vote decide everything. -- (Joseph Stalin) ___ -- Bandwidth and Colocation Provided by http://www.api-digital.com -- asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [asterisk-users] DUDE!!!!! was RE: Dialplan Visualization(Extensions.conf or Dialplan Show)
Brent Davidson wrote: John Signorello wrote: excuse me... But did you not just post [asterisk-users] OT Nice IBM 1U Server Gets Along w/Old and New Digium Boards Cheap X305 $199 Did you not provide a link to a COMMERICAL entity? Wasn't your a post a unsolicited post, that is, not in response to a question??? There seems to be two standards here. The fact that you do not work for them is immaterial. If your argument is no commercial reference at all, then how do you explain your post? I felt like the cogoblue stuff is out of place and off topic, so I agree that it should not be arbitrarily posted as a solution to any question that it might seem to somehow solve. However, I do not take exception to the IBM server post, even though strict adherence to the rules would probably make it illegal as well. I think most people agree (or a least don't mind too much) if a commercial product is offered as a possible solution to an OP's query, assuming it is in fact, within context. I'll leave it to others on the list to decide if John Signorello's post was appropriate or not, given the context of the OP's original query, but if someone posts a query directly related to a product I have to offer, I fully intend to let them know about it in as least intrusive manner as I can. Assuming a person's product is directly within context, not offering it as possible solution could be a disservice to the OP and list in general. Just a thought... -- Warm Regards, Lee When my company started out, we were really, really, really, really small. Now...we're just really small. ___ -- Bandwidth and Colocation Provided by http://www.api-digital.com -- asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [asterisk-users] DUDE!!!!! was RE: Dialplan Visualization(Extensions.conf or Dialplan Show)
On Fri, Apr 18, 2008 at 12:39 PM, Jay R. Ashworth [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Fri, Apr 18, 2008 at 12:04:45PM -0400, Steve Totaro wrote: I certainly was clear in the title that it was a server that cost $199 even if someone did not know that OT was short for Off Topic I missed the post. Link? -- j -- Jay R. Ashworth Baylink [EMAIL PROTECTED] Designer The Things I Think RFC 2100 Ashworth Associates http://baylink.pitas.com '87 e24 St Petersburg FL USA http://photo.imageinc.us +1 727 647 1274 Those who cast the vote decide nothing. Those who count the vote decide everything. -- (Joseph Stalin) By request http://www.surpluscomputers.com/store/main.aspx?p=ItemDetailitem=COM10775 Thanks, Steve Totaro ___ -- Bandwidth and Colocation Provided by http://www.api-digital.com -- asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [asterisk-users] DUDE!!!!! was RE: Dialplan Visualization(Extensions.conf or Dialplan Show)
On Fri, Apr 18, 2008 at 12:44:41PM -0400, Steve Totaro wrote: By request http://www.surpluscomputers.com/store/main.aspx?p=ItemDetailitem=COM10775 Sorry; I thought I'd taken that offlist. nice, but not SCSI capable from what I can see. We run SCSI RAID-1 on all our diallers. Nice pricing though. -- j -- Jay R. Ashworth Baylink [EMAIL PROTECTED] Designer The Things I Think RFC 2100 Ashworth Associates http://baylink.pitas.com '87 e24 St Petersburg FL USA http://photo.imageinc.us +1 727 647 1274 Those who cast the vote decide nothing. Those who count the vote decide everything. -- (Joseph Stalin) ___ -- Bandwidth and Colocation Provided by http://www.api-digital.com -- asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [asterisk-users] DUDE!!!!! was RE: Dialplan Visualization(Extensions.conf or Dialplan Show)
My post was made b/c John Signorello has done this before and I thought that a friendly reminder of the proper places to post his 'offers' should be posted. This is the one that came to mind when I composed the email reply: http://www.mail-archive.com/asterisk-users@lists.digium.com/msg202014.ht ml -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:asterisk-users- [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Lee Jenkins Sent: Friday, April 18, 2008 12:39 PM To: Asterisk Users Mailing List - Non-Commercial Discussion Subject: Re: [asterisk-users] DUDE! was RE: Dialplan Visualization(Extensions.conf or Dialplan Show) Brent Davidson wrote: John Signorello wrote: excuse me... But did you not just post [asterisk-users] OT Nice IBM 1U Server Gets Along w/Old and New Digium Boards Cheap X305 $199 Did you not provide a link to a COMMERICAL entity? Wasn't your a post a unsolicited post, that is, not in response to a question??? There seems to be two standards here. The fact that you do not work for them is immaterial. If your argument is no commercial reference at all, then how do you explain your post? I felt like the cogoblue stuff is out of place and off topic, so I agree that it should not be arbitrarily posted as a solution to any question that it might seem to somehow solve. However, I do not take exception to the IBM server post, even though strict adherence to the rules would probably make it illegal as well. I think most people agree (or a least don't mind too much) if a commercial product is offered as a possible solution to an OP's query, assuming it is in fact, within context. I'll leave it to others on the list to decide if John Signorello's post was appropriate or not, given the context of the OP's original query, but if someone posts a query directly related to a product I have to offer, I fully intend to let them know about it in as least intrusive manner as I can. Assuming a person's product is directly within context, not offering it as possible solution could be a disservice to the OP and list in general. Just a thought... -- Warm Regards, Lee When my company started out, we were really, really, really, really small. Now...we're just really small. ___ -- Bandwidth and Colocation Provided by http://www.api-digital.com -- asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users ___ -- Bandwidth and Colocation Provided by http://www.api-digital.com -- asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [asterisk-users] DUDE!!!!! was RE: Dialplan Visualization(Extensions.conf or Dialplan Show)
Steve Totaro wrote: On Fri, Apr 18, 2008 at 11:09 AM, John Signorello [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: excuse me... But did you not just post [asterisk-users] OT Nice IBM 1U Server Gets Along w/Old and New Digium Boards Cheap X305 $199 Did you not provide a link to a COMMERICAL entity? Wasn't your a post a unsolicited post, that is, not in response to a question??? There seems to be two standards here. The fact that you do not work for them is immaterial. If your argument is no commercial reference at all, then how do you explain your post? You may have a point although I was more doing a favor or looking out rather than trying to push my wares on someone where they did not fit. I guess I would say it is different because of intent and presentation. I thought about posting on the biz list but then thought it would better serve many Asterisk users. I certainly was clear in the title that it was a server that cost $199 even if someone did not know that OT was short for Off Topic If anyone has any real objection to my occasional postings of this nature on the users list, then I will certainly keep them to myself. It takes more effort to post something that may be helpful than it does to remain silent. Steve, -1 to not posting stuff like that anymore. I think the guys in the office here have already picked up a couple of these machines here collectively to play. They are a very good deal. Is the post a double standard? Possibly, but it is what it is, and I personally prefer to see it rather than not see it. -- Bird's The Word Technologies, Inc. http://www.btwtech.com/ ___ -- Bandwidth and Colocation Provided by http://www.api-digital.com -- asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [asterisk-users] DUDE!!!!! was RE: Dialplan Visualization(Extensions.conf or Dialplan Show)
On Fri, Apr 18, 2008 at 2:47 PM, BJ Weschke [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Steve Totaro wrote: On Fri, Apr 18, 2008 at 11:09 AM, John Signorello [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: excuse me... But did you not just post [asterisk-users] OT Nice IBM 1U Server Gets Along w/Old and New Digium Boards Cheap X305 $199 Did you not provide a link to a COMMERICAL entity? Wasn't your a post a unsolicited post, that is, not in response to a question??? There seems to be two standards here. The fact that you do not work for them is immaterial. If your argument is no commercial reference at all, then how do you explain your post? You may have a point although I was more doing a favor or looking out rather than trying to push my wares on someone where they did not fit. I guess I would say it is different because of intent and presentation. I thought about posting on the biz list but then thought it would better serve many Asterisk users. I certainly was clear in the title that it was a server that cost $199 even if someone did not know that OT was short for Off Topic If anyone has any real objection to my occasional postings of this nature on the users list, then I will certainly keep them to myself. It takes more effort to post something that may be helpful than it does to remain silent. Steve, -1 to not posting stuff like that anymore. I think the guys in the office here have already picked up a couple of these machines here collectively to play. They are a very good deal. Is the post a double standard? Possibly, but it is what it is, and I personally prefer to see it rather than not see it. So, sorry for sparking this big war. Does anyone happen to remember that script? :) I just need it for reverse dialplan graphing, no other utilities required :) Thanks, Matt ___ -- Bandwidth and Colocation Provided by http://www.api-digital.com -- asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
