Re: [asterisk-users] G729 license count...

2008-04-18 Thread Eugen Soare




Silly newbie question. Is the license only required for the Digium
product? Or is it also required for the "unofficial, unsupported (other
than yourself, and those who want to help)"?

Thank you for clarification!

es

Moises Silva wrote:

  http://store.digium.com/productview.php?product_code=G729CODEC
http://www.digium.com/en/docs/G729/g729policy.php
http://www.voip-info.org/wiki-Asterisk+G.729+Licensing

On Thu, Apr 17, 2008 at 11:14 AM, Carlos Chavez [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  
  
I need a refresher course on how many licenses I need to buy.  I have
 an Asterisk server that receives calls by SIP (G729) and then sends them
 to the PSTN via 32 Zap interfaces on an Astribank.  I cannot remember if
 the license is per channel or per call so I do not know if I need 32 or
 64 licenses for this application.  Could anyone please remind me?

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Re: [asterisk-users] G729 license count...

2008-04-18 Thread Steve Totaro
Required by all (with the exception of academic work possibly?)

Thanks,
Steve Totaro

On Fri, Apr 18, 2008 at 9:55 AM, Eugen Soare [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

  Silly newbie question. Is the license only required for the Digium product?
 Or is it also required for the unofficial, unsupported (other than
 yourself, and those who want to help)?

  Thank you for clarification!

  es


  Moises Silva wrote:
  http://store.digium.com/productview.php?product_code=G729CODEC
 http://www.digium.com/en/docs/G729/g729policy.php
 http://www.voip-info.org/wiki-Asterisk+G.729+Licensing

 On Thu, Apr 17, 2008 at 11:14 AM, Carlos Chavez [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 wrote:


  I need a refresher course on how many licenses I need to buy. I have
  an Asterisk server that receives calls by SIP (G729) and then sends them
  to the PSTN via 32 Zap interfaces on an Astribank. I cannot remember if
  the license is per channel or per call so I do not know if I need 32 or
  64 licenses for this application. Could anyone please remind me?

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  +52-55-91169161 ext 2001

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Re: [asterisk-users] G729 license count...

2008-04-18 Thread Raúl Gómez C.
Another silly question,

In the first Digium link posted before there is a line that said *The G.729
codec works with all Digium cards*, but this license will work with a
Sangoma Remora Card??? Or do I need to buy it from Sangoma??? (I don't know
if the are selling G729 licenses)

Thanks...

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On Sat, Apr 19, 2008 at 9:41 AM, Steve Totaro 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Required by all (with the exception of academic work possibly?)

 Thanks,
 Steve Totaro

 On Fri, Apr 18, 2008 at 9:55 AM, Eugen Soare [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 wrote:
 
   Silly newbie question. Is the license only required for the Digium
 product?
  Or is it also required for the unofficial, unsupported (other than
  yourself, and those who want to help)?
 
   Thank you for clarification!
 
   es
 
 
   Moises Silva wrote:
   http://store.digium.com/productview.php?product_code=G729CODEC
  http://www.digium.com/en/docs/G729/g729policy.php
  http://www.voip-info.org/wiki-Asterisk+G.729+Licensing
 
  On Thu, Apr 17, 2008 at 11:14 AM, Carlos Chavez [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 
  wrote:
 
 
   I need a refresher course on how many licenses I need to buy. I have
   an Asterisk server that receives calls by SIP (G729) and then sends
 them
   to the PSTN via 32 Zap interfaces on an Astribank. I cannot remember if
   the license is per channel or per call so I do not know if I need 32 or
   64 licenses for this application. Could anyone please remind me?
 
   --
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   Carlos Chávez Prats
   Director de Tecnología
   +52-55-91169161 ext 2001
 
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Re: [asterisk-users] G729 license count...

2008-04-18 Thread Mojo with Horan Company, LLC
Raúl Gómez C. wrote:
 Another silly question,

 In the first Digium link posted before there is a line that said *The G.729
 codec works with all Digium cards*, but this license will work with a
 Sangoma Remora Card??? Or do I need to buy it from Sangoma??? (I don't know
 if the are selling G729 licenses)
   
The codec in use for a specific channel doesn't even care if that 
channel exists over zapata analog or digital cards, sip channels, iax[2] 
channels, smoke signals, etc.  If you care to use ping pong balls 
and the atlantic ocean as your medium, you should be able to interface 
with the g729 codec if you still needed to :D  Although I wouldn't 
expect there to be much error correction inherent in the Atlantic.

The codecs are modules for *asterisk* and not for the cards themselves.

Moj

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Re: [asterisk-users] G729 license count...

2008-04-18 Thread Raúl Gómez C.
LOL!!! Thanks Mojo!

On Sat, Apr 19, 2008 at 12:07 PM, Mojo with Horan  Company, LLC 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Raúl Gómez C. wrote:
  Another silly question,
 
  In the first Digium link posted before there is a line that said *The
 G.729
  codec works with all Digium cards*, but this license will work with a
  Sangoma Remora Card??? Or do I need to buy it from Sangoma??? (I don't
 know
  if the are selling G729 licenses)
 
 The codec in use for a specific channel doesn't even care if that
 channel exists over zapata analog or digital cards, sip channels, iax[2]
 channels, smoke signals, etc.  If you care to use ping pong balls
 and the atlantic ocean as your medium, you should be able to interface
 with the g729 codec if you still needed to :D  Although I wouldn't
 expect there to be much error correction inherent in the Atlantic.

 The codecs are modules for *asterisk* and not for the cards themselves.

 Moj



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Re: [asterisk-users] G729 license count...

2008-04-18 Thread Mojo with Horan Company, LLC
Raúl Gómez C. wrote:
 LOL!!! Thanks Mojo!

 On Sat, Apr 19, 2008 at 12:07 PM, Mojo with Horan  Company, LLC 
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
   
 The codec in use for a specific channel doesn't even care if that
 channel exists over zapata analog or digital cards, sip channels, iax[2]
 channels, smoke signals, etc.  If you care to use ping pong balls
 and the atlantic ocean as your medium, you should be able to interface
 with the g729 codec if you still needed to :D  Although I wouldn't
 expect there to be much error correction inherent in the Atlantic.

 The codecs are modules for *asterisk* and not for the cards themselves.

 Moj
 
Hehe you got it =D


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Re: [asterisk-users] G729 license count...

2008-04-18 Thread Atis Lezdins
  The codec in use for a specific channel doesn't even care if that
  channel exists over zapata analog or digital cards, sip channels, iax[2]
  channels, smoke signals, etc.  If you care to use ping pong balls
  and the atlantic ocean as your medium, you should be able to interface
  with the g729 codec if you still needed to :D  Although I wouldn't
  expect there to be much error correction inherent in the Atlantic.

I would not risk sending my data trough new cutting edge transports
You mentioned. Instead I prefer to use proven technologies, and
preferably documented in RFC - for example RFC 2549  IP over Avian
Carriers with Quality of Service. There are even some modifications to
this by using flash cards instead of paper, and that beats speed of
ADSL. However that still doesn't seems best for my VoIP traffic
because of latency.

  The codecs are modules for *asterisk* and not for the cards themselves.

That's true.

Regards,
Atis

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Re: [asterisk-users] G729 license count...

2008-04-18 Thread Mojo with Horan Company, LLC
Atis Lezdins wrote:
  The codec in use for a specific channel doesn't even care if that
  channel exists over zapata analog or digital cards, sip channels, iax[2]
  channels, smoke signals, etc.  If you care to use ping pong balls
  and the atlantic ocean as your medium, you should be able to interface
  with the g729 codec if you still needed to :D  Although I wouldn't
  expect there to be much error correction inherent in the Atlantic.
 

 I would not risk sending my data trough new cutting edge transports
 You mentioned. Instead I prefer to use proven technologies, and
 preferably documented in RFC - for example RFC 2549  IP over Avian
 Carriers with Quality of Service. There are even some modifications to
 this by using flash cards instead of paper, and that beats speed of
 ADSL. However that still doesn't seems best for my VoIP traffic
 because of latency.

   
  The codecs are modules for *asterisk* and not for the cards themselves.
 

 That's true.

 Regards,
 Atis

   
We at Atlantic ColdStreak are pleased to offer SLA, Sea Lion 
Augmentation, to even our most basic transatlantic voip packages.  The 
ping pong balls have a 99.99% 'up'time, guaranteed to float until eaten.

-- 

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HORAN  COMPANY, LLC
403 Lincoln Street, Suite 210
Sitka, AK 99835
(907) 747-
(907) 747-7417 - Fax
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Re: [asterisk-users] G729 license count...

2008-04-18 Thread Eugen Soare




Where you calling my question silly? :)

Well here is another one..question that is.

I was not aware of the licensing of G.729. Is it that way with other
codecs? Some that I have heard are G.711 and SPEEKS/SPEAKS... 
Perhaps pointing towards a resource that would have what ones require a
license and what doesn't. 
Maybe someone has that handy.

Thanks!
Es

Raúl Gómez C. wrote:
Another silly question,
  
In the first Digium link posted before there is a line that said "The
G.729 codec works with all Digium cards", but this license will
work with a Sangoma Remora Card??? Or do I need to buy it from
Sangoma??? (I don't know if the are selling G729 licenses)
  
Thanks...
  
-- 
Raul Gomez
Linux Counter #156439
  
  
  
  On Sat, Apr 19, 2008 at 9:41 AM, Steve
Totaro [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
  Required
by all (with the exception of academic work possibly?)

Thanks,
Steve Totaro



On Fri, Apr 18, 2008 at 9:55 AM, Eugen Soare [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:

  Silly newbie question. Is the license only required for the
Digium product?
 Or is it also required for the "unofficial, unsupported (other than
 yourself, and those who want to help)"?

  Thank you for clarification!

  es


  Moises Silva wrote:
  http://store.digium.com/productview.php?product_code=G729CODEC
 http://www.digium.com/en/docs/G729/g729policy.php
 http://www.voip-info.org/wiki-Asterisk+G.729+Licensing

 On Thu, Apr 17, 2008 at 11:14 AM, Carlos Chavez [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 wrote:


  I need a refresher course on how many licenses I need to buy. I
have
  an Asterisk server that receives calls by SIP (G729) and then
sends them
  to the PSTN via 32 Zap interfaces on an Astribank. I cannot
remember if
  the license is per channel or per call so I do not know if I need
32 or
  64 licenses for this application. Could anyone please remind me?

  --
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  Carlos Chávez Prats
  Director de Tecnología
  +52-55-91169161 ext 2001

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Re: [asterisk-users] G729 license count...

2008-04-18 Thread Tzafrir Cohen
On Fri, Apr 18, 2008 at 08:35:26PM +0300, Atis Lezdins wrote:
   The codec in use for a specific channel doesn't even care if that
   channel exists over zapata analog or digital cards, sip channels, iax[2]
   channels, smoke signals, etc.  If you care to use ping pong balls
   and the atlantic ocean as your medium, you should be able to interface
   with the g729 codec if you still needed to :D  Although I wouldn't
   expect there to be much error correction inherent in the Atlantic.
 
 I would not risk sending my data trough new cutting edge transports
 You mentioned. Instead I prefer to use proven technologies, and
 preferably documented in RFC - for example RFC 2549  IP over Avian
 Carriers with Quality of Service. There are even some modifications to
 this by using flash cards instead of paper, and that beats speed of
 ADSL. However that still doesn't seems best for my VoIP traffic
 because of latency.

While Mojo here is busy blatantly promoting his commercial servises
in this non-commercial list using ideas that plainly don't even hold
water, here is something that does:

  http://wiki.notacon.org/AnythingButEthernet/TCP-over-Bass

You can also get some ideas from here:

  http://wiki.notacon.org/AnythingButEthernet/Armistice


(BTW: add a :-) to this post whereever necessary ;-) )

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Re: [asterisk-users] G729 license count...

2008-04-18 Thread Godwin Stewart
On Fri, 18 Apr 2008 08:37:32 -0800, Mojo with Horan  Company, LLC
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 If you care to use ping pong balls and the atlantic ocean as your medium,
 you should be able to interface with the g729 codec if you still needed
 to :D

I've heard that RFC1149-compliant devices work well with g729 as well :)

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Re: [asterisk-users] G729 license count...

2008-04-18 Thread Andreas van dem Helge
On Fri, Apr 18, 2008 at 3:53 PM, Godwin Stewart Horwich IT Services
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 On Fri, 18 Apr 2008 08:37:32 -0800, Mojo with Horan  Company, LLC
  [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

   If you care to use ping pong balls and the atlantic ocean as your medium,
   you should be able to interface with the g729 codec if you still needed
   to :D

  I've heard that RFC1149-compliant devices work well with g729 as well :)


And how did you manage to get the latency down to a tolerable level? I
mean... it's a great idea an all but when I'm talking to someone on
the phone I like to hear their response that same hour and using
RFC1149-type connections just makes the VoIP latency unbearable for
me. Have you run this setup in production with any clients? What have
been their thoughts on it?

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[asterisk-users] G729 license count...

2008-04-17 Thread Carlos Chavez
I need a refresher course on how many licenses I need to buy.  I have
an Asterisk server that receives calls by SIP (G729) and then sends them
to the PSTN via 32 Zap interfaces on an Astribank.  I cannot remember if
the license is per channel or per call so I do not know if I need 32 or
64 licenses for this application.  Could anyone please remind me?

-- 
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Carlos Chávez Prats
Director de Tecnología
+52-55-91169161 ext 2001


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Re: [asterisk-users] G729 license count...

2008-04-17 Thread Zoa

Afaik its per encode / decoder pair.
In this case you will need 32 simultaneous encoders / decoders between 
g729 and slin, so you would need 32 licenses.
Contact digium sales/support directly and you will know for sure :)

Zoa


Carlos Chavez wrote:
   I need a refresher course on how many licenses I need to buy.  I have
 an Asterisk server that receives calls by SIP (G729) and then sends them
 to the PSTN via 32 Zap interfaces on an Astribank.  I cannot remember if
 the license is per channel or per call so I do not know if I need 32 or
 64 licenses for this application.  Could anyone please remind me?

   
 

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Re: [asterisk-users] G729 license count...

2008-04-17 Thread Moises Silva
http://store.digium.com/productview.php?product_code=G729CODEC
http://www.digium.com/en/docs/G729/g729policy.php
http://www.voip-info.org/wiki-Asterisk+G.729+Licensing

On Thu, Apr 17, 2008 at 11:14 AM, Carlos Chavez [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 I need a refresher course on how many licenses I need to buy.  I have
  an Asterisk server that receives calls by SIP (G729) and then sends them
  to the PSTN via 32 Zap interfaces on an Astribank.  I cannot remember if
  the license is per channel or per call so I do not know if I need 32 or
  64 licenses for this application.  Could anyone please remind me?

  --
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  +52-55-91169161 ext 2001

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