Re: [asterisk-users] Hardware that can ring my phone?

2007-08-02 Thread James FitzGibbon
On 8/1/07, Linux Lover [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

  This SOHO PBX box won't interop with Asterisk
  because it doesn't speak any
  of the protocols that Asterisk does.  This box

 I tend agree with your evaluation. Still, I was
 thinking that since all these el-cheapo SOHO PBX boxes
 support manual attendant call transfer, what's to
 prevent Asterisk from mimicking an attendant by
 sending proper DTMF signals and make this box
 transfer the call to the single analog phone in the
 business? That is, Asterisk will connect (via RJ-11)
 to the unit as the attendant's phone, and my real
 phone (only one in the system) will connect via a
 second RJ-11 (there could be 4 of them).

 Or is Asterisk not capable of sending DTMF signals
 over an RJ-11 connection?


You can send arbitrary DTMF over any of Asterisk's channels from the
dialplan.  I just figured that this level of integration was a bit deeper
than you were looking for as a first project.  It would be an interesting
experiment, to be sure.  The biggest issue I'd think would be feedback - you
can send the DTMF along the wire, but how do you know that the SOHO box
interpreted it correctly?  If the only feedback is designed for a human (i.e.
auditory), then interpreting those cues with Asterisk would be non-trivial.


 Do I undestand correctly that with this solution, I
 will still be able to connect to my analog Verizon
 phone line with the SIP phone? That is, the outside
 world will see my phone as an ordinary phone, when in
 fact I am using a SIP phone? If so, that means that
 Asterisk does all the magic behind the scene, right?


Yes, your Verizon POTS line would go into a FXO port in your server (which
in Asterisk would be referenced as the channel Zap/1 - zaptel being
Asterisk's TDM driver) and your SIP phone would connect via your standard
office network and be referenced as SIP/whateverusernameyouwant.

A very simplistic example of bridging a call would be:

[from-verizon]
exten = s,1,Dial(SIP/whateverusername)

Assuming that you'd configured zaptel to route calls that come in on the FXO
port to the Asterisk context named from-verizon, then any such calls would
immediately cause Asterisk to ring your SIP phone, and if answered to bridge
the two calls together.

A more complex example that makes them press one to call you and otherwise
lets them leave a message:

[from-verizon]
exten = s,1,Background(Press1ToTalkOr2ToLeaveAMessage)
exten = s,n,WaitExten(10)

; timeout
exten = t,1,Goto(vm,1)

; invalid
exten = i,1,Goto(vm,1)

; press 1
exten = 1,1,Dial(SIP/101,20)
exten = 1,n,Goto(vm,1)

; press 2
exten = 2,1,Goto(vm,1)

; all voicemail activity ends up here
exten = vm,1,VoiceMail(u101)
exten = vm,n,Hangup

[from-officephone]
exten = *98,1,VoiceMailMain
extne = *98,n,Hangup

Assuming you've now set up your SIP phone as extension 101, this would play
a sound file saying press 1 to talk to 2 to leave a message.  If they
press 1, your SIP phone rings.  If they press 2, they go to voicemail.  If
they wait 10 seconds without pressing anything, or press something other
than 1 or 2, they also go to voicemail.  If they press 1 to dial your phone
and you don't pick up after 20 seconds, they go to voicemail.

On your deskphone (could just as easily be a SIP softphone if you prefer),
you can dial *98 to log in and pick up your new voicemail messages.

Hope that demystifies some of what you're trying to do.

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Re: [asterisk-users] Hardware that can ring my phone?

2007-08-02 Thread Anthony Francis
James FitzGibbon wrote:
 On 8/1/07, *Linux Lover* [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

  This SOHO PBX box won't interop with Asterisk
  because it doesn't speak any
  of the protocols that Asterisk does.  This box

 I tend agree with your evaluation. Still, I was
 thinking that since all these el-cheapo SOHO PBX boxes
 support manual attendant call transfer, what's to
 prevent Asterisk from mimicking an attendant by
 sending proper DTMF signals and make this box
 transfer the call to the single analog phone in the
 business? That is, Asterisk will connect (via RJ-11)
 to the unit as the attendant's phone, and my real
 phone (only one in the system) will connect via a
 second RJ-11 (there could be 4 of them).

 Or is Asterisk not capable of sending DTMF signals
 over an RJ-11 connection?


 You can send arbitrary DTMF over any of Asterisk's channels from the 
 dialplan.  I just figured that this level of integration was a bit 
 deeper than you were looking for as a first project.  It would be an 
 interesting experiment, to be sure.  The biggest issue I'd think would 
 be feedback - you can send the DTMF along the wire, but how do you 
 know that the SOHO box interpreted it correctly?  If the only feedback 
 is designed for a human ( i.e. auditory), then interpreting those cues 
 with Asterisk would be non-trivial.


 Do I undestand correctly that with this solution, I
 will still be able to connect to my analog Verizon
 phone line with the SIP phone? That is, the outside
 world will see my phone as an ordinary phone, when in
 fact I am using a SIP phone? If so, that means that
 Asterisk does all the magic behind the scene, right?


 Yes, your Verizon POTS line would go into a FXO port in your server 
 (which in Asterisk would be referenced as the channel Zap/1 - zaptel 
 being Asterisk's TDM driver) and your SIP phone would connect via your 
 standard office network and be referenced as 
 SIP/whateverusernameyouwant.

 A very simplistic example of bridging a call would be:

 [from-verizon]
 exten = s,1,Dial(SIP/whateverusername)

 Assuming that you'd configured zaptel to route calls that come in on 
 the FXO port to the Asterisk context named from-verizon, then any 
 such calls would immediately cause Asterisk to ring your SIP phone, 
 and if answered to bridge the two calls together.

 A more complex example that makes them press one to call you and 
 otherwise lets them leave a message:

 [from-verizon]
 exten = s,1,Background(Press1ToTalkOr2ToLeaveAMessage)
 exten = s,n,WaitExten(10)

 ; timeout
 exten = t,1,Goto(vm,1)

 ; invalid
 exten = i,1,Goto(vm,1)

 ; press 1
 exten = 1,1,Dial(SIP/101,20)
 exten = 1,n,Goto(vm,1)

 ; press 2
 exten = 2,1,Goto(vm,1)

 ; all voicemail activity ends up here
 exten = vm,1,VoiceMail(u101)
 exten = vm,n,Hangup

 [from-officephone]
 exten = *98,1,VoiceMailMain
 extne = *98,n,Hangup

 Assuming you've now set up your SIP phone as extension 101, this would 
 play a sound file saying press 1 to talk to 2 to leave a message.  
 If they press 1, your SIP phone rings.  If they press 2, they go to 
 voicemail.  If they wait 10 seconds without pressing anything, or 
 press something other than 1 or 2, they also go to voicemail.  If they 
 press 1 to dial your phone and you don't pick up after 20 seconds, 
 they go to voicemail.

 On your deskphone (could just as easily be a SIP softphone if you 
 prefer), you can dial *98 to log in and pick up your new voicemail 
 messages.

 Hope that demystifies some of what you're trying to do.

 -- 
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the way to have * send dtmf is with the D option, w inserts a half 
second pause.

As an example I have a remote location that needs special 911, so they 
have a landline that connects to a linksys SPA, it doesnt like being 
passed the destination number through sip, so O do it this way:

exten = 911,1,Dial(SIP/08CCB243-911,,D(w911))


works awesome, it connects, plays back the DTMF, and then passes the 
audio stream to the caller.

Anthony

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Re: [asterisk-users] Hardware that can ring my phone?

2007-08-02 Thread Linux Lover
Wow! Thank you so much, James - you have certainly
clarified lots of things in my mind. You are correct
about me overlooking the feedback issue (with the
el-cheapo device). I see that I have to learn. This
world of VoIP is new and mind boggling - to me.

Thanks,
Lynn


--- James FitzGibbon [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:

 On 8/1/07, Linux Lover [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 wrote:
 
   This SOHO PBX box won't interop with Asterisk
   because it doesn't speak any
   of the protocols that Asterisk does.  This box
 
  I tend agree with your evaluation. Still, I was
  thinking that since all these el-cheapo SOHO PBX
 boxes
  support manual attendant call transfer, what's to
  prevent Asterisk from mimicking an attendant by
  sending proper DTMF signals and make this box
  transfer the call to the single analog phone in
 the
  business? That is, Asterisk will connect (via
 RJ-11)
  to the unit as the attendant's phone, and my
 real
  phone (only one in the system) will connect via a
  second RJ-11 (there could be 4 of them).
 
  Or is Asterisk not capable of sending DTMF signals
  over an RJ-11 connection?
 
 
 You can send arbitrary DTMF over any of Asterisk's
 channels from the
 dialplan.  I just figured that this level of
 integration was a bit deeper
 than you were looking for as a first project.  It
 would be an interesting
 experiment, to be sure.  The biggest issue I'd think
 would be feedback - you
 can send the DTMF along the wire, but how do you
 know that the SOHO box
 interpreted it correctly?  If the only feedback is
 designed for a human (i.e.
 auditory), then interpreting those cues with
 Asterisk would be non-trivial.
 
 
  Do I undestand correctly that with this solution,
 I
  will still be able to connect to my analog Verizon
  phone line with the SIP phone? That is, the
 outside
  world will see my phone as an ordinary phone, when
 in
  fact I am using a SIP phone? If so, that means
 that
  Asterisk does all the magic behind the scene,
 right?
 
 
 Yes, your Verizon POTS line would go into a FXO port
 in your server (which
 in Asterisk would be referenced as the channel
 Zap/1 - zaptel being
 Asterisk's TDM driver) and your SIP phone would
 connect via your standard
 office network and be referenced as
 SIP/whateverusernameyouwant.
 
 A very simplistic example of bridging a call would
 be:
 
 [from-verizon]
 exten = s,1,Dial(SIP/whateverusername)
 
 Assuming that you'd configured zaptel to route calls
 that come in on the FXO
 port to the Asterisk context named from-verizon,
 then any such calls would
 immediately cause Asterisk to ring your SIP phone,
 and if answered to bridge
 the two calls together.
 
 A more complex example that makes them press one to
 call you and otherwise
 lets them leave a message:
 
 [from-verizon]
 exten =
 s,1,Background(Press1ToTalkOr2ToLeaveAMessage)
 exten = s,n,WaitExten(10)
 
 ; timeout
 exten = t,1,Goto(vm,1)
 
 ; invalid
 exten = i,1,Goto(vm,1)
 
 ; press 1
 exten = 1,1,Dial(SIP/101,20)
 exten = 1,n,Goto(vm,1)
 
 ; press 2
 exten = 2,1,Goto(vm,1)
 
 ; all voicemail activity ends up here
 exten = vm,1,VoiceMail(u101)
 exten = vm,n,Hangup
 
 [from-officephone]
 exten = *98,1,VoiceMailMain
 extne = *98,n,Hangup
 
 Assuming you've now set up your SIP phone as
 extension 101, this would play
 a sound file saying press 1 to talk to 2 to leave a
 message.  If they
 press 1, your SIP phone rings.  If they press 2,
 they go to voicemail.  If
 they wait 10 seconds without pressing anything, or
 press something other
 than 1 or 2, they also go to voicemail.  If they
 press 1 to dial your phone
 and you don't pick up after 20 seconds, they go to
 voicemail.
 
 On your deskphone (could just as easily be a SIP
 softphone if you prefer),
 you can dial *98 to log in and pick up your new
 voicemail messages.
 
 Hope that demystifies some of what you're trying to
 do.
 
 -- 
 j.
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[asterisk-users] Hardware that can ring my phone?

2007-08-01 Thread Linux Lover
Hello,

I am a small business owner in need for a solution
that automatically answers an incoming call, prompts
the caller via touch-tone menu (press 1 to leave a
message, press 0 to speak to a representative) and
will ring my (real) phone ONLY if requested by caller.

I know that Asterisk is capable of all the logic
behind what I described above. However, I couldn't
find a hardware product that will allow me to
accomplish the above (preferrable using Asterisk
software). Does such thing exists?

Thanks,
Lynn


   

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Re: [asterisk-users] Hardware that can ring my phone?

2007-08-01 Thread john beaman
Lynn,

If I understand you question correctly, you would need:

A computer (preferably a server) to run Asterisk
An analog interface card such as the Digium TDM400P
An analog phone line (POTS)
An analog (real) phone

Calls would come in on the POTS line, get answered by Asterisk.  Callers would 
hear your voice menu, and input their choice.  If they opted for a live person, 
asterisk would then send the call to your analog (real) phone.



John Beaman
Telecom Specialist
Voice Telecommunications Services Department.
Good Samaritan National Campus
605-362-3331

 [EMAIL PROTECTED] 8/1/2007 8:48:47 AM 
Hello,

I am a small business owner in need for a solution
that automatically answers an incoming call, prompts
the caller via touch-tone menu (press 1 to leave a
message, press 0 to speak to a representative) and
will ring my (real) phone ONLY if requested by caller.

I know that Asterisk is capable of all the logic
behind what I described above. However, I couldn't
find a hardware product that will allow me to
accomplish the above (preferrable using Asterisk
software). Does such thing exists?

Thanks,
Lynn


   

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Re: [asterisk-users] Hardware that can ring my phone?

2007-08-01 Thread Alex Robar
Lynn,

What you need is an ATA (analog telephone adapter). The ATA is a SIP or IAX
extension on your Asterisk box, and your standard phone plugs into it.
Asterisk sends the call to the SIP extension (the ATA), and the ATA rings
your phone. On the flip side, your phone dials normally and the ATA
digitizes the data and sends it via SIP to Asterisk for routing. Check out
Digium's IAXy or the GrandStream Budgetone/HandyTone.

AR

On 8/1/07, Linux Lover [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Hello,

 I am a small business owner in need for a solution
 that automatically answers an incoming call, prompts
 the caller via touch-tone menu (press 1 to leave a
 message, press 0 to speak to a representative) and
 will ring my (real) phone ONLY if requested by caller.

 I know that Asterisk is capable of all the logic
 behind what I described above. However, I couldn't
 find a hardware product that will allow me to
 accomplish the above (preferrable using Asterisk
 software). Does such thing exists?

 Thanks,
 Lynn




 
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Re: [asterisk-users] Hardware that can ring my phone?

2007-08-01 Thread Jon Pounder
Quoting Linux Lover [EMAIL PROTECTED]:


any of the various module based cards with one fxo and one fxs port  
will do what you want.


 Hello,

 I am a small business owner in need for a solution
 that automatically answers an incoming call, prompts
 the caller via touch-tone menu (press 1 to leave a
 message, press 0 to speak to a representative) and
 will ring my (real) phone ONLY if requested by caller.

 I know that Asterisk is capable of all the logic
 behind what I described above. However, I couldn't
 find a hardware product that will allow me to
 accomplish the above (preferrable using Asterisk
 software). Does such thing exists?

 Thanks,
 Lynn



 
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Re: [asterisk-users] Hardware that can ring my phone?

2007-08-01 Thread Jared Smith
On Wed, 2007-08-01 at 06:48 -0700, Linux Lover wrote:
 I am a small business owner in need for a solution
 that automatically answers an incoming call, prompts
 the caller via touch-tone menu (press 1 to leave a
 message, press 0 to speak to a representative) and
 will ring my (real) phone ONLY if requested by caller.

Assuming the incoming call is coming in on an analog phone line, you
need a card such as the Digium TDM11B... this provides one FXO port (for
connecting to the incoming phone line) and one FXS port (for ringing an
analog phone).  It's not the only way to do it, but it's probably the
easiest (and a great way to get started with Asterisk, I might add).


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Re: [asterisk-users] Hardware that can ring my phone?

2007-08-01 Thread Linux Lover
Yes, you understood correctly. Thank you - and all
others who replied so quickly - for your precise and
guiding answers.

The Digium TDM11B looks looks like the perfect match
for me:

http://www.telephonyware.com/telephonyware/tw00068.html

But one thing that I forgot to mention is that my
business is only in its beginning stage and I need to
be as thrifty as possible. While $216 is a reasonable
price, I was wondering whether my (currently very
modest) goal can be achieved by spending much less
(under $100). For example, what if I buy one of those
el-cheapo PBX boxes and connect it to an Asterisk
server?

http://www.soho-pbx.com/sp-104.htm

Do you think this could work for me or did I expose a
gross misconception on my part?

Thanks,
Lynn

--- john beaman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Lynn,
 
 If I understand you question correctly, you would
 need:
 
 A computer (preferably a server) to run Asterisk
 An analog interface card such as the Digium TDM400P
 An analog phone line (POTS)
 An analog (real) phone
 
 Calls would come in on the POTS line, get answered
 by Asterisk.  Callers would hear your voice menu,
 and input their choice.  If they opted for a live
 person, asterisk would then send the call to your
 analog (real) phone.
 
 
 
 John Beaman
 Telecom Specialist
 Voice Telecommunications Services Department.
 Good Samaritan National Campus
 605-362-3331
 
  [EMAIL PROTECTED] 8/1/2007 8:48:47 AM
 
 Hello,
 
 I am a small business owner in need for a solution
 that automatically answers an incoming call, prompts
 the caller via touch-tone menu (press 1 to leave a
 message, press 0 to speak to a representative) and
 will ring my (real) phone ONLY if requested by
 caller.
 
 I know that Asterisk is capable of all the logic
 behind what I described above. However, I couldn't
 find a hardware product that will allow me to
 accomplish the above (preferrable using Asterisk
 software). Does such thing exists?
 
 Thanks,
 Lynn
 
 



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Re: [asterisk-users] Hardware that can ring my phone?

2007-08-01 Thread Drew Gibson
Hi Lynn,

You can use a Linksys SPA-3102 for both FXO (POTS) and FXS (phone) 
connection instead of a Digium card. The price is around $90-100.

Almost any old PC will do if it can run Linux. There are also other 
alternatives to a PC such as the Linksys WRT54GL. I use a Linksys NSLU2 
(Slug) at home, they are about the same price as an SPA and they are 
really tiny!

regards,

Drew


Linux Lover wrote:
 Yes, you understood correctly. Thank you - and all
 others who replied so quickly - for your precise and
 guiding answers.

 The Digium TDM11B looks looks like the perfect match
 for me:

 http://www.telephonyware.com/telephonyware/tw00068.html

 But one thing that I forgot to mention is that my
 business is only in its beginning stage and I need to
 be as thrifty as possible. While $216 is a reasonable
 price, I was wondering whether my (currently very
 modest) goal can be achieved by spending much less
 (under $100). For example, what if I buy one of those
 el-cheapo PBX boxes and connect it to an Asterisk
 server?

 http://www.soho-pbx.com/sp-104.htm

 Do you think this could work for me or did I expose a
 gross misconception on my part?

 Thanks,
 Lynn

 --- john beaman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

   
 Lynn,

 If I understand you question correctly, you would
 need:

 A computer (preferably a server) to run Asterisk
 An analog interface card such as the Digium TDM400P
 An analog phone line (POTS)
 An analog (real) phone

 Calls would come in on the POTS line, get answered
 by Asterisk.  Callers would hear your voice menu,
 and input their choice.  If they opted for a live
 person, asterisk would then send the call to your
 analog (real) phone.



 John Beaman
 Telecom Specialist
 Voice Telecommunications Services Department.
 Good Samaritan National Campus
 605-362-3331

 
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] 8/1/2007 8:48:47 AM

   
 Hello,

 I am a small business owner in need for a solution
 that automatically answers an incoming call, prompts
 the caller via touch-tone menu (press 1 to leave a
 message, press 0 to speak to a representative) and
 will ring my (real) phone ONLY if requested by
 caller.

 I know that Asterisk is capable of all the logic
 behind what I described above. However, I couldn't
 find a hardware product that will allow me to
 accomplish the above (preferrable using Asterisk
 software). Does such thing exists?

 Thanks,
 Lynn

 


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Re: [asterisk-users] Hardware that can ring my phone?

2007-08-01 Thread john beaman
Lynn,
  I am unfamiliar with soho-pbx, so I cannot comment on quality, service, 
configurability, etc.  They are based out of Hong Kong, and their box is 
probably already running some flavor of Asterisk, so you would need nothing 
additional except for the phone line coming in and the telephone.  I got quite 
a kick out of their description for the SP-104 box as referenced by your link:

The photos below are model SP-104, a model that costs only tens of US dollars

Not sure how much that comes to, but sounds pretty cheap...



John Beaman
Telecom Specialist
Voice Telecommunications Services Department.
Good Samaritan National Campus
605-362-3331

 [EMAIL PROTECTED] 8/1/2007 10:29:51 AM 
Yes, you understood correctly. Thank you - and all
others who replied so quickly - for your precise and
guiding answers.

The Digium TDM11B looks looks like the perfect match
for me:

http://www.telephonyware.com/telephonyware/tw00068.html 

But one thing that I forgot to mention is that my
business is only in its beginning stage and I need to
be as thrifty as possible. While $216 is a reasonable
price, I was wondering whether my (currently very
modest) goal can be achieved by spending much less
(under $100). For example, what if I buy one of those
el-cheapo PBX boxes and connect it to an Asterisk
server?

http://www.soho-pbx.com/sp-104.htm 

Do you think this could work for me or did I expose a
gross misconception on my part?

Thanks,
Lynn

--- john beaman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Lynn,
 
 If I understand you question correctly, you would
 need:
 
 A computer (preferably a server) to run Asterisk
 An analog interface card such as the Digium TDM400P
 An analog phone line (POTS)
 An analog (real) phone
 
 Calls would come in on the POTS line, get answered
 by Asterisk.  Callers would hear your voice menu,
 and input their choice.  If they opted for a live
 person, asterisk would then send the call to your
 analog (real) phone.
 
 
 
 John Beaman
 Telecom Specialist
 Voice Telecommunications Services Department.
 Good Samaritan National Campus
 605-362-3331
 
  [EMAIL PROTECTED] 8/1/2007 8:48:47 AM
 
 Hello,
 
 I am a small business owner in need for a solution
 that automatically answers an incoming call, prompts
 the caller via touch-tone menu (press 1 to leave a
 message, press 0 to speak to a representative) and
 will ring my (real) phone ONLY if requested by
 caller.
 
 I know that Asterisk is capable of all the logic
 behind what I described above. However, I couldn't
 find a hardware product that will allow me to
 accomplish the above (preferrable using Asterisk
 software). Does such thing exists?
 
 Thanks,
 Lynn
 
 



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Re: [asterisk-users] Hardware that can ring my phone?

2007-08-01 Thread Phil Birkelbach
This is what I have at home and it works okay.  I also added an SPA-2002 
(~$70) that adds another two FXS (phone) ports for a total of three.

Godspeed,

Phil



Drew Gibson wrote:
 Hi Lynn,

 You can use a Linksys SPA-3102 for both FXO (POTS) and FXS (phone) 
 connection instead of a Digium card. The price is around $90-100.

 Almost any old PC will do if it can run Linux. There are also other 
 alternatives to a PC such as the Linksys WRT54GL. I use a Linksys NSLU2 
 (Slug) at home, they are about the same price as an SPA and they are 
 really tiny!

 regards,

 Drew


 Linux Lover wrote:
   
 Yes, you understood correctly. Thank you - and all
 others who replied so quickly - for your precise and
 guiding answers.

 The Digium TDM11B looks looks like the perfect match
 for me:

 http://www.telephonyware.com/telephonyware/tw00068.html

 But one thing that I forgot to mention is that my
 business is only in its beginning stage and I need to
 be as thrifty as possible. While $216 is a reasonable
 price, I was wondering whether my (currently very
 modest) goal can be achieved by spending much less
 (under $100). For example, what if I buy one of those
 el-cheapo PBX boxes and connect it to an Asterisk
 server?

 http://www.soho-pbx.com/sp-104.htm

 Do you think this could work for me or did I expose a
 gross misconception on my part?

 Thanks,
 Lynn

 --- john beaman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

   
 
 Lynn,

 If I understand you question correctly, you would
 need:

 A computer (preferably a server) to run Asterisk
 An analog interface card such as the Digium TDM400P
 An analog phone line (POTS)
 An analog (real) phone

 Calls would come in on the POTS line, get answered
 by Asterisk.  Callers would hear your voice menu,
 and input their choice.  If they opted for a live
 person, asterisk would then send the call to your
 analog (real) phone.



 John Beaman
 Telecom Specialist
 Voice Telecommunications Services Department.
 Good Samaritan National Campus
 605-362-3331

 
   
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] 8/1/2007 8:48:47 AM

   
 
 Hello,

 I am a small business owner in need for a solution
 that automatically answers an incoming call, prompts
 the caller via touch-tone menu (press 1 to leave a
 message, press 0 to speak to a representative) and
 will ring my (real) phone ONLY if requested by
 caller.

 I know that Asterisk is capable of all the logic
 behind what I described above. However, I couldn't
 find a hardware product that will allow me to
 accomplish the above (preferrable using Asterisk
 software). Does such thing exists?

 Thanks,
 Lynn

 
   


   

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Re: [asterisk-users] Hardware that can ring my phone?

2007-08-01 Thread James FitzGibbon
On 8/1/07, Linux Lover [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 But one thing that I forgot to mention is that my
 business is only in its beginning stage and I need to
 be as thrifty as possible. While $216 is a reasonable
 price, I was wondering whether my (currently very
 modest) goal can be achieved by spending much less
 (under $100). For example, what if I buy one of those
 el-cheapo PBX boxes and connect it to an Asterisk
 server?

 http://www.soho-pbx.com/sp-104.htm

 Do you think this could work for me or did I expose a
 gross misconception on my part?


This SOHO PBX box won't interop with Asterisk because it doesn't speak any
of the protocols that Asterisk does.  This box appears to be a solid-state
(and I'd assume very feature restricted) alternative to Asterisk.  That it
happens to have both FXO (to the Telco) and FXS (to the analog phone) ports
doesn't mean that it is usable as an analog interface for Asterisk.

Your best bet is to find your closest Asterisk user's group and see when
they're next doing a build seminar.  Most user groups do these a few times a
year and you might be able to find someone who will do one on demand.  You
bring some cheapo PC you might have lying around and buy a $20 FXO card and
build a simple answering machine using Asterisk. From there, it's easy to
extend so that when the user chooses a particular option in your IVR, the
call is bridged to a phone in your office.

The original single-FXO-port card from Digium was the X100P.  These aren't
sold anymore (the TDM400B modular card replaced it), but they can be found
on eBay for $10-$30.  If you can get your hands on one, you might consider
going with a cheap SIP phone instead of a analog phone for your business.
There isn't (as far as I know) a readily available cheap single-FXS-port
card.  If you go with an analog phone behind Asterisk, you'll need an FXS
port.  If you go with a SIP phone, you just need to have a network
connection from the phone to the server, which might be cheaper.  A quick
search on eBay shows a few Grandstream Budgetone 101 phones (certainly not
the best available, but they'll do the job) in the sub-$50 range.

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Re: [asterisk-users] Hardware that can ring my phone?

2007-08-01 Thread Eric Chamberlain
A phone system for under $100 is asking a lot.

It can be done, but what is your time worth.

You might want to consider some other phone system if all you need is
IVR and analog support or look at hosted solutions.

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 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:asterisk-users-
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Linux Lover
 Sent: Wednesday, August 01, 2007 8:30 AM
 To: Asterisk Users Mailing List - Non-Commercial Discussion
 Subject: Re: [asterisk-users] Hardware that can ring my phone?
 
 Yes, you understood correctly. Thank you - and all
 others who replied so quickly - for your precise and
 guiding answers.
 
 The Digium TDM11B looks looks like the perfect match
 for me:
 
 http://www.telephonyware.com/telephonyware/tw00068.html
 
 But one thing that I forgot to mention is that my
 business is only in its beginning stage and I need to
 be as thrifty as possible. While $216 is a reasonable
 price, I was wondering whether my (currently very
 modest) goal can be achieved by spending much less
 (under $100). For example, what if I buy one of those
 el-cheapo PBX boxes and connect it to an Asterisk
 server?
 
 http://www.soho-pbx.com/sp-104.htm
 
 Do you think this could work for me or did I expose a
 gross misconception on my part?
 
 Thanks,
 Lynn
 
 --- john beaman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
  Lynn,
 
  If I understand you question correctly, you would
  need:
 
  A computer (preferably a server) to run Asterisk
  An analog interface card such as the Digium TDM400P
  An analog phone line (POTS)
  An analog (real) phone
 
  Calls would come in on the POTS line, get answered
  by Asterisk.  Callers would hear your voice menu,
  and input their choice.  If they opted for a live
  person, asterisk would then send the call to your
  analog (real) phone.
 
 
 
  John Beaman
  Telecom Specialist
  Voice Telecommunications Services Department.
  Good Samaritan National Campus
  605-362-3331
 
   [EMAIL PROTECTED] 8/1/2007 8:48:47 AM
  
  Hello,
 
  I am a small business owner in need for a solution
  that automatically answers an incoming call, prompts
  the caller via touch-tone menu (press 1 to leave a
  message, press 0 to speak to a representative) and
  will ring my (real) phone ONLY if requested by
  caller.
 
  I know that Asterisk is capable of all the logic
  behind what I described above. However, I couldn't
  find a hardware product that will allow me to
  accomplish the above (preferrable using Asterisk
  software). Does such thing exists?
 
  Thanks,
  Lynn
 
 
 
 


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Re: [asterisk-users] Hardware that can ring my phone?

2007-08-01 Thread Tim Litwiller
Do you think you'll outgrow 1 phone line any time soon.  If so You'll 
want something that you don't have to completely redo when you add the 
next line.  That digium card you linked to has 2 more expansion slots 
open for more lines or phones.

The soho pbx you linked to looks like you can have more phones, but only 
one line, so you'd have to get the 2 or more line model later if your 
business grew.
 searching.

Oh, it looks like the a a SP-416 on Ebay for $99 + $108 shipping from 
Hong Kong
I don't know what is inside of the box, but it looks like an interesting 
product.


Linux Lover wrote:
 Yes, you understood correctly. Thank you - and all
 others who replied so quickly - for your precise and
 guiding answers.

 The Digium TDM11B looks looks like the perfect match
 for me:

 http://www.telephonyware.com/telephonyware/tw00068.html

 But one thing that I forgot to mention is that my
 business is only in its beginning stage and I need to
 be as thrifty as possible. While $216 is a reasonable
 price, I was wondering whether my (currently very
 modest) goal can be achieved by spending much less
 (under $100). For example, what if I buy one of those
 el-cheapo PBX boxes and connect it to an Asterisk
 server?

 http://www.soho-pbx.com/sp-104.htm

 Do you think this could work for me or did I expose a
 gross misconception on my part?

 Thanks,
 Lynn

 --- john beaman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

   
 Lynn,

 If I understand you question correctly, you would
 need:

 A computer (preferably a server) to run Asterisk
 An analog interface card such as the Digium TDM400P
 An analog phone line (POTS)
 An analog (real) phone

 Calls would come in on the POTS line, get answered
 by Asterisk.  Callers would hear your voice menu,
 and input their choice.  If they opted for a live
 person, asterisk would then send the call to your
 analog (real) phone.



 John Beaman
 Telecom Specialist
 Voice Telecommunications Services Department.
 Good Samaritan National Campus
 605-362-3331

 
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] 8/1/2007 8:48:47 AM

   
 Hello,

 I am a small business owner in need for a solution
 that automatically answers an incoming call, prompts
 the caller via touch-tone menu (press 1 to leave a
 message, press 0 to speak to a representative) and
 will ring my (real) phone ONLY if requested by
 caller.

 I know that Asterisk is capable of all the logic
 behind what I described above. However, I couldn't
 find a hardware product that will allow me to
 accomplish the above (preferrable using Asterisk
 software). Does such thing exists?

 Thanks,
 Lynn




 
 
   
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Re: [asterisk-users] Hardware that can ring my phone?

2007-08-01 Thread John Novack


Linux Lover wrote:
 But one thing that I forgot to mention is that my
 business is only in its beginning stage and I need to
 be as thrifty as possible. While $216 is a reasonable
 price, I was wondering whether my (currently very
 modest) goal can be achieved by spending much less
 (under $100). For example, what if I buy one of those
 el-cheapo PBX boxes and connect it to an Asterisk
 server?
   
Buy this, or another proven  SOHO solution and forget, for the moment, 
Asterisk
IF you really are starting out fresh, begin the business and learn 
Asterisk in your ( ha! ) spare time, then when you are ready you will be 
able to migrate without having your customers suffer through your 
learning curve.
You DO want your business to succeed, don't you?
You DON'T want your customers to have a bad first impression of you 
because of some small problem with Asterisk.

Look at other hardware Asterisk solutions as well. The X100 can be more 
trouble than it is worth, the TDM400 CAN have issues with some 
motherboards that you will not discover until the driver can't find the 
board, and the standard support answer is try another motherboard

Sangoma makes some nice FXO/FXS PCI cards as well with a 5 year warranty.

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Re: [asterisk-users] Hardware that can ring my phone?

2007-08-01 Thread Linux Lover
John, thank you very much. Indeed, this is the
direction I was thinking of taking. I just needed a
quick  dirty solution for the short term - I didn't
realize that Asterisk is so complex.

In fact, I am not sure I completely understand it:
Will using Asterisk force me to use an external VoIP
service? Or can I remain completely POTS based?

(At the volume of phone calls that I am making, I
found out that using an ordinary phone line is way
cheaper than any VoIP service available to me right
now - definitely cheaper tha Vonage et al.)

Thanks,
Lynn





--- John Novack [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 
 
 Linux Lover wrote:
  But one thing that I forgot to mention is that my
  business is only in its beginning stage and I need
 to
  be as thrifty as possible. While $216 is a
 reasonable
  price, I was wondering whether my (currently very
  modest) goal can be achieved by spending much less
  (under $100). For example, what if I buy one of
 those
  el-cheapo PBX boxes and connect it to an Asterisk
  server?

 Buy this, or another proven  SOHO solution and
 forget, for the moment, 
 Asterisk
 IF you really are starting out fresh, begin the
 business and learn 
 Asterisk in your ( ha! ) spare time, then when you
 are ready you will be 
 able to migrate without having your customers suffer
 through your 
 learning curve.
 You DO want your business to succeed, don't you?
 You DON'T want your customers to have a bad first
 impression of you 
 because of some small problem with Asterisk.
 
 Look at other hardware Asterisk solutions as well.
 The X100 can be more 
 trouble than it is worth, the TDM400 CAN have issues
 with some 
 motherboards that you will not discover until the
 driver can't find the 
 board, and the standard support answer is try
 another motherboard
 
 Sangoma makes some nice FXO/FXS PCI cards as well
 with a 5 year warranty.
 
 John Novack
 
 -- 
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Re: [asterisk-users] Hardware that can ring my phone?

2007-08-01 Thread Jon Pounder
Quoting Linux Lover [EMAIL PROTECTED]:

 John, thank you very much. Indeed, this is the
 direction I was thinking of taking. I just needed a
 quick  dirty solution for the short term - I didn't
 realize that Asterisk is so complex.

 In fact, I am not sure I completely understand it:
 Will using Asterisk force me to use an external VoIP
 service? Or can I remain completely POTS based?

 (At the volume of phone calls that I am making, I
 found out that using an ordinary phone line is way
 cheaper than any VoIP service available to me right
 now - definitely cheaper tha Vonage et al.)

there are plenty of supercheap voip services (far cheaper than a  
business line), but asterisk allows you to mix and match whatever you  
want from analog lines to digital lines to voip services, with  
softphones, voip phones, traditionalphones etc., in whatever  
combination you want.

you just configure the appropriate channels for whatever you connect to it.







 Thanks,
 Lynn





 --- John Novack [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:



 Linux Lover wrote:
  But one thing that I forgot to mention is that my
  business is only in its beginning stage and I need
 to
  be as thrifty as possible. While $216 is a
 reasonable
  price, I was wondering whether my (currently very
  modest) goal can be achieved by spending much less
  (under $100). For example, what if I buy one of
 those
  el-cheapo PBX boxes and connect it to an Asterisk
  server?
 
 Buy this, or another proven  SOHO solution and
 forget, for the moment,
 Asterisk
 IF you really are starting out fresh, begin the
 business and learn
 Asterisk in your ( ha! ) spare time, then when you
 are ready you will be
 able to migrate without having your customers suffer
 through your
 learning curve.
 You DO want your business to succeed, don't you?
 You DON'T want your customers to have a bad first
 impression of you
 because of some small problem with Asterisk.

 Look at other hardware Asterisk solutions as well.
 The X100 can be more
 trouble than it is worth, the TDM400 CAN have issues
 with some
 motherboards that you will not discover until the
 driver can't find the
 board, and the standard support answer is try
 another motherboard

 Sangoma makes some nice FXO/FXS PCI cards as well
 with a 5 year warranty.

 John Novack

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Re: [asterisk-users] Hardware that can ring my phone?

2007-08-01 Thread Linux Lover
James, thank you for your educating answer.

--- James FitzGibbon [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:

 
 This SOHO PBX box won't interop with Asterisk
 because it doesn't speak any
 of the protocols that Asterisk does.  This box
 appears to be a solid-state
 (and I'd assume very feature restricted) alternative
 to Asterisk.  That it
 happens to have both FXO (to the Telco) and FXS (to
 the analog phone) ports
 doesn't mean that it is usable as an analog
 interface for Asterisk.
 

I tend agree with your evaluation. Still, I was
thinking that since all these el-cheapo SOHO PBX boxes
support manual attendant call transfer, what's to
prevent Asterisk from mimicking an attendant by
sending proper DTMF signals and make this box
transfer the call to the single analog phone in the
business? That is, Asterisk will connect (via RJ-11)
to the unit as the attendant's phone, and my real
phone (only one in the system) will connect via a
second RJ-11 (there could be 4 of them).

Or is Asterisk not capable of sending DTMF signals
over an RJ-11 connection?

Not that I am rushing to buy this cheap box right now,
but I am curious whether this is possible at all -
perhaps to get a better feel of how flexible Asterisk
is.

 
 The original single-FXO-port card from Digium was
 the X100P.  These aren't
 sold anymore (the TDM400B modular card replaced it),
 but they can be found
 on eBay for $10-$30.  If you can get your hands on
 one, you might consider
 going with a cheap SIP phone instead of a analog
 phone for your business.
 There isn't (as far as I know) a readily available
 cheap single-FXS-port
 card.  If you go with an analog phone behind
 Asterisk, you'll need an FXS
 port.  If you go with a SIP phone, you just need to
 have a network
 connection from the phone to the server, which might
 be cheaper.  A quick
 search on eBay shows a few Grandstream Budgetone 101
 phones (certainly not
 the best available, but they'll do the job) in the
 sub-$50 range.
 

Do I undestand correctly that with this solution, I
will still be able to connect to my analog Verizon
phone line with the SIP phone? That is, the outside
world will see my phone as an ordinary phone, when in
fact I am using a SIP phone? If so, that means that
Asterisk does all the magic behind the scene, right?

Thanks,
Lynn


   

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Re: [asterisk-users] Hardware that can ring my phone?

2007-08-01 Thread Jon Pounder

you would still need an fxo port of some sort for asterisk for it to  
pretend to be a phone.


Quoting Linux Lover [EMAIL PROTECTED]:

 James, thank you for your educating answer.

 --- James FitzGibbon [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 wrote:


 This SOHO PBX box won't interop with Asterisk
 because it doesn't speak any
 of the protocols that Asterisk does.  This box
 appears to be a solid-state
 (and I'd assume very feature restricted) alternative
 to Asterisk.  That it
 happens to have both FXO (to the Telco) and FXS (to
 the analog phone) ports
 doesn't mean that it is usable as an analog
 interface for Asterisk.


 I tend agree with your evaluation. Still, I was
 thinking that since all these el-cheapo SOHO PBX boxes
 support manual attendant call transfer, what's to
 prevent Asterisk from mimicking an attendant by
 sending proper DTMF signals and make this box
 transfer the call to the single analog phone in the
 business? That is, Asterisk will connect (via RJ-11)
 to the unit as the attendant's phone, and my real
 phone (only one in the system) will connect via a
 second RJ-11 (there could be 4 of them).

 Or is Asterisk not capable of sending DTMF signals
 over an RJ-11 connection?

 Not that I am rushing to buy this cheap box right now,
 but I am curious whether this is possible at all -
 perhaps to get a better feel of how flexible Asterisk
 is.


 The original single-FXO-port card from Digium was
 the X100P.  These aren't
 sold anymore (the TDM400B modular card replaced it),
 but they can be found
 on eBay for $10-$30.  If you can get your hands on
 one, you might consider
 going with a cheap SIP phone instead of a analog
 phone for your business.
 There isn't (as far as I know) a readily available
 cheap single-FXS-port
 card.  If you go with an analog phone behind
 Asterisk, you'll need an FXS
 port.  If you go with a SIP phone, you just need to
 have a network
 connection from the phone to the server, which might
 be cheaper.  A quick
 search on eBay shows a few Grandstream Budgetone 101
 phones (certainly not
 the best available, but they'll do the job) in the
 sub-$50 range.


 Do I undestand correctly that with this solution, I
 will still be able to connect to my analog Verizon
 phone line with the SIP phone? That is, the outside
 world will see my phone as an ordinary phone, when in
 fact I am using a SIP phone? If so, that means that
 Asterisk does all the magic behind the scene, right?

 Thanks,
 Lynn



 
 Boardwalk for $500? In 2007? Ha! Play Monopoly Here and Now (it's   
 updated for today's economy) at Yahoo! Games.
 http://get.games.yahoo.com/proddesc?gamekey=monopolyherenow

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Re: [asterisk-users] Hardware that can ring my phone?

2007-08-01 Thread Luki
 You can use a Linksys SPA-3102 for both FXO (POTS) and FXS (phone)
 connection instead of a Digium card. The price is around $90-100.

 Almost any old PC will do if it can run Linux. There are also other
 alternatives to a PC such as the Linksys WRT54GL.

The OpenWRT (on whatever supported router hardware) + SPA-3102 is a
pretty decent combo. You can reinvite the traffic between the FXO and
FXS (g711 only) and get good quality without even taxing the router.
FYI, a WRT54G had no problem running asterisk 1.2.x with 4 concurrent
channels (g711, no transcoding, just RTP proxying).

I'd look into something like that. And you can expand it fairly
easily by adding another SPA for a second line.

Luki

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