Re: [asterisk-users] I need a second opinion on a new phone system deployment
Please also have a look at the gateway boxes from berofix (http://wiki.beronet.com/index.php/Main_Page). I am not affiliated but have used different products from them over last few yeas and all have survived and are stable. Documentation is open and free on their wiki. They provide updates. They are not the cheapest but they have different vendors and they are sold in online webshops. You can choose for the inside PCI(e) cards or their external boxes. Last few years I went for the external boxes. They can be fitted in a server rack or you mount them against the wall with screws. Regards, Michel. On 16-06-13 16:55, Nunya Biznatch wrote: Thanks again to everyone that's responded thus far. I have once again bundled the questions and answers into a single email, and am responding below. On 6/14/2013 9:43 AM, Nunya Biznatch wrote: Howdy All, They say opinions are like belly buttons, everybody has one. (that's the clean version of the saying). So I'm asking for yours. I hope you see it as a fun exercise. I'm designing a phone system from the ground up. Will be about 1000-1300 seats mixed 80/20 VoIP/Analog. 58-acre campus environment with 23 buildings. Userbase is emergency services organization, 24/7/365 operation. Down time is not an option, but blips are acceptable. Repair time is immediate. We need failover for the failover essentially. However, money is a major factor, so I have to do it all for nothing. So here's what I'm thinking. Please throw in your 2 cents. Network will be separate for phones. Fiber infrastructure available between buildings as well as copper. Internet access will be limited to a single administrative console on a temporary basis, and then only when remote 3rd party support is required. Access for 3rd party support will be supervised through remote access tools such as VNC, GoToMeeting, etc... etc... System will have zero access to local data network. This means all ancillary support servers such as DHCP, DNS, NTP, FTP, etc...etc... will be specific to the phone system. Yes, I know some responders at this time will become fixated on me gaining this connectivity. It ain't gonna happen. It's not an option. Period, end of story. These are the parameters I must work within. Trying to fix that will be a non-starter. The phone system will upgrade an existing TDM-based system. Mitel SX2000 with NuPoint Voicemail. This will not be a dump-trunk replacement. I expect at least a one to two-year transition, meaning we will have time to find problems, work bugs, and learn over time, with minimized impacts. It also means we'll be supporting two systems for some time. PBX is 97% serving your basic phone on the desk. Nothing special. Customers expect the usual list of features. There will be a goodly number of hints required for BLF on maybe 150 phones. There is one office of about 30 phones in a call-center environment that will need that service. They would be considered low volume (but don't tell them that). My Skills... I am not a Linux kung fu master, but I have built and managed my share of Linux servers on mutiple Linux flavors. I am a DCAA, having been through formal training, and have been playing with Asterisk for years, but always in fits and spurts and never in a live environment so I am by no means a kung fu master there either. I have started dabbling with virtualizations via XEN, but I am not comfortable enough with it to go live this first round. I can see myself implementing it in about three years once we're totally comfortable with what we have, so I can then have time to get that skill sorted. I was a network engineer for the US no3. telecom for a number of years, 10-years in comm-electronics in the military before that. Telecom my entire career. I've got the kung-fu to handle the network side of the house, and having administrated multiple PBXs for decade-plus, I've got the concepts down. No plans to build databases for things like directories, etc... I'm not greatly confident in those skills, and to date, haven't found anything that really stands out that would make me require that. You may think otherwise, so please chime in. I say that, but at the same time I recognize I may require a GUI interface once fully deployed to allow lower-skilled people to follow the motions to complete simple moves, adds, and changes. I'm fighting the uphill battle that is the GUI is new, CLI is old mentality. System will use G.722 for VoIP Phones. So there's the groundwork. Here's the hardware plan. Plan is to build my own servers following industry standards (ATX) and using industry standard equipment. Why? Spares? Whether redundant or not, I will still have spares for the most common elements on the shelf so equipment can be returned to service as quickly as possible. This will also allow me to be comfortable with more basic server configurations and help keep cost down. For example, Servers with single
Re: [asterisk-users] I need a second opinion on a new phone system deployment
Please also have a look at the gateway boxes from berofix (http://wiki.beronet.com/index.php/Main_Page). I am not affiliated but have used different products from them over last few yeas and all have survived and are stable. Documentation is open and free on their wiki. They provide updates. They are not the cheapest but they have different vendors and they are sold in online webshops. You can choose for the inside PCI(e) cards or their external boxes. Last few years I went for the external boxes. They can be fitted in a server rack or you mount them against the wall with screws. Regards, Michel. -- _ -- Bandwidth and Colocation Provided by http://www.api-digital.com -- New to Asterisk? Join us for a live introductory webinar every Thurs: http://www.asterisk.org/hello asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [asterisk-users] I need a second opinion on a new phone system deployment
Thanks again to everyone that's responded thus far. I have once again bundled the questions and answers into a single email, and am responding below. On 6/14/2013 9:43 AM, Nunya Biznatch wrote: Howdy All, They say opinions are like belly buttons, everybody has one. (that's the clean version of the saying). So I'm asking for yours. I hope you see it as a fun exercise. I'm designing a phone system from the ground up. Will be about 1000-1300 seats mixed 80/20 VoIP/Analog. 58-acre campus environment with 23 buildings. Userbase is emergency services organization, 24/7/365 operation. Down time is not an option, but blips are acceptable. Repair time is immediate. We need failover for the failover essentially. However, money is a major factor, so I have to do it all for nothing. So here's what I'm thinking. Please throw in your 2 cents. Network will be separate for phones. Fiber infrastructure available between buildings as well as copper. Internet access will be limited to a single administrative console on a temporary basis, and then only when remote 3rd party support is required. Access for 3rd party support will be supervised through remote access tools such as VNC, GoToMeeting, etc... etc... System will have zero access to local data network. This means all ancillary support servers such as DHCP, DNS, NTP, FTP, etc...etc... will be specific to the phone system. Yes, I know some responders at this time will become fixated on me gaining this connectivity. It ain't gonna happen. It's not an option. Period, end of story. These are the parameters I must work within. Trying to fix that will be a non-starter. The phone system will upgrade an existing TDM-based system. Mitel SX2000 with NuPoint Voicemail. This will not be a dump-trunk replacement. I expect at least a one to two-year transition, meaning we will have time to find problems, work bugs, and learn over time, with minimized impacts. It also means we'll be supporting two systems for some time. PBX is 97% serving your basic phone on the desk. Nothing special. Customers expect the usual list of features. There will be a goodly number of hints required for BLF on maybe 150 phones. There is one office of about 30 phones in a call-center environment that will need that service. They would be considered low volume (but don't tell them that). My Skills... I am not a Linux kung fu master, but I have built and managed my share of Linux servers on mutiple Linux flavors. I am a DCAA, having been through formal training, and have been playing with Asterisk for years, but always in fits and spurts and never in a live environment so I am by no means a kung fu master there either. I have started dabbling with virtualizations via XEN, but I am not comfortable enough with it to go live this first round. I can see myself implementing it in about three years once we're totally comfortable with what we have, so I can then have time to get that skill sorted. I was a network engineer for the US no3. telecom for a number of years, 10-years in comm-electronics in the military before that. Telecom my entire career. I've got the kung-fu to handle the network side of the house, and having administrated multiple PBXs for decade-plus, I've got the concepts down. No plans to build databases for things like directories, etc... I'm not greatly confident in those skills, and to date, haven't found anything that really stands out that would make me require that. You may think otherwise, so please chime in. I say that, but at the same time I recognize I may require a GUI interface once fully deployed to allow lower-skilled people to follow the motions to complete simple moves, adds, and changes. I'm fighting the uphill battle that is the GUI is new, CLI is old mentality. System will use G.722 for VoIP Phones. So there's the groundwork. Here's the hardware plan. Plan is to build my own servers following industry standards (ATX) and using industry standard equipment. Why? Spares? Whether redundant or not, I will still have spares for the most common elements on the shelf so equipment can be returned to service as quickly as possible. This will also allow me to be comfortable with more basic server configurations and help keep cost down. For example, Servers with single power supplies vs. dual. Also, components will be standardized for all equipment to aid in supply requirements. First the layout. 2-servers acting as gateways. Each handling 2 PRIs for outside trunks. They'll also handle the analog ports. Failover will be in the form of degraded trunk access if one should fail, but the second will be able to support services in degraded fashion. 2-servers acting as VoIP PBX. A primary and a spare. Meaning one will be capable of handling the load of the entire system, and the other will pickup when the other dies, an active/passive cluster. Will also take care of voicemail. Use of heartbeat, pacemaker,
Re: [asterisk-users] I need a second opinion on a new phone system deployment
Thanks to everyone for the responses. I really appreciate it. I'll answer all questions and suggestions in this one email. (at the bottom) On 6/14/2013 9:43 AM, Nunya Biznatch wrote: Howdy All, They say opinions are like belly buttons, everybody has one. (that's the clean version of the saying). So I'm asking for yours. I hope you see it as a fun exercise. I'm designing a phone system from the ground up. Will be about 1000-1300 seats mixed 80/20 VoIP/Analog. 58-acre campus environment with 23 buildings. Userbase is emergency services organization, 24/7/365 operation. Down time is not an option, but blips are acceptable. Repair time is immediate. We need failover for the failover essentially. However, money is a major factor, so I have to do it all for nothing. So here's what I'm thinking. Please throw in your 2 cents. Network will be separate for phones. Fiber infrastructure available between buildings as well as copper. Internet access will be limited to a single administrative console on a temporary basis, and then only when remote 3rd party support is required. Access for 3rd party support will be supervised through remote access tools such as VNC, GoToMeeting, etc... etc... System will have zero access to local data network. This means all ancillary support servers such as DHCP, DNS, NTP, FTP, etc...etc... will be specific to the phone system. Yes, I know some responders at this time will become fixated on me gaining this connectivity. It ain't gonna happen. It's not an option. Period, end of story. These are the parameters I must work within. Trying to fix that will be a non-starter. The phone system will upgrade an existing TDM-based system. Mitel SX2000 with NuPoint Voicemail. This will not be a dump-trunk replacement. I expect at least a one to two-year transition, meaning we will have time to find problems, work bugs, and learn over time, with minimized impacts. It also means we'll be supporting two systems for some time. PBX is 97% serving your basic phone on the desk. Nothing special. Customers expect the usual list of features. There will be a goodly number of hints required for BLF on maybe 150 phones. There is one office of about 30 phones in a call-center environment that will need that service. They would be considered low volume (but don't tell them that). My Skills... I am not a Linux kung fu master, but I have built and managed my share of Linux servers on mutiple Linux flavors. I am a DCAA, having been through formal training, and have been playing with Asterisk for years, but always in fits and spurts and never in a live environment so I am by no means a kung fu master there either. I have started dabbling with virtualizations via XEN, but I am not comfortable enough with it to go live this first round. I can see myself implementing it in about three years once we're totally comfortable with what we have, so I can then have time to get that skill sorted. I was a network engineer for the US no3. telecom for a number of years, 10-years in comm-electronics in the military before that. Telecom my entire career. I've got the kung-fu to handle the network side of the house, and having administrated multiple PBXs for decade-plus, I've got the concepts down. No plans to build databases for things like directories, etc... I'm not greatly confident in those skills, and to date, haven't found anything that really stands out that would make me require that. You may think otherwise, so please chime in. I say that, but at the same time I recognize I may require a GUI interface once fully deployed to allow lower-skilled people to follow the motions to complete simple moves, adds, and changes. I'm fighting the uphill battle that is the GUI is new, CLI is old mentality. System will use G.722 for VoIP Phones. So there's the groundwork. Here's the hardware plan. Plan is to build my own servers following industry standards (ATX) and using industry standard equipment. Why? Spares? Whether redundant or not, I will still have spares for the most common elements on the shelf so equipment can be returned to service as quickly as possible. This will also allow me to be comfortable with more basic server configurations and help keep cost down. For example, Servers with single power supplies vs. dual. Also, components will be standardized for all equipment to aid in supply requirements. First the layout. 2-servers acting as gateways. Each handling 2 PRIs for outside trunks. They'll also handle the analog ports. Failover will be in the form of degraded trunk access if one should fail, but the second will be able to support services in degraded fashion. 2-servers acting as VoIP PBX. A primary and a spare. Meaning one will be capable of handling the load of the entire system, and the other will pickup when the other dies, an active/passive cluster. Will also take care of voicemail. Use of heartbeat, pacemaker, etc... etc...
Re: [asterisk-users] I need a second opinion on a new phone system deployment
... For redundant/failover of Asterisk checkout HAAST at www.generationd.comhttp://www.generationd.com The HAAST product sits between Linux and Asterisk, monitors for failures etc, and then fails over to another Asterisk box. It effectively creates a low-cost cluster, moving IP's etc to active peer. It runs with most Linux and Asterisk distro's, and avoids the issues of single point of failure. etc. Michelle (generationD) -- _ -- Bandwidth and Colocation Provided by http://www.api-digital.com -- New to Asterisk? Join us for a live introductory webinar every Thurs: http://www.asterisk.org/hello asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [asterisk-users] I need a second opinion on a new phone system deployment
Interesting product that I was very interested in, but the licensing has one huge glaring problem. Be sure to read the FAQ carefully. If your hardware fails and you replace almost anything in the machine, you have to pay for the product again. On Sat, Jun 15, 2013 at 10:42 AM, Michelle Dupuis mdup...@ocg.ca wrote: ... For redundant/failover of Asterisk checkout HAAST at www.generationd.com The HAAST product sits between Linux and Asterisk, monitors for failures etc, and then fails over to another Asterisk box. It effectively creates a low-cost cluster, moving IP's etc to active peer. It runs with most Linux and Asterisk distro's, and avoids the issues of single point of failure. etc. Michelle (generationD) -- _ -- Bandwidth and Colocation Provided by http://www.api-digital.com -- New to Asterisk? Join us for a live introductory webinar every Thurs: http://www.asterisk.org/hello asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users -- Carlos Alvarez TelEvolve 602-889-3003 -- _ -- Bandwidth and Colocation Provided by http://www.api-digital.com -- New to Asterisk? Join us for a live introductory webinar every Thurs: http://www.asterisk.org/hello asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [asterisk-users] I need a second opinion on a new phone system deployment
On 15/6/13 7:00 pm, Carlos Alvarez wrote: Interesting product that I was very interested in, but the licensing has one huge glaring problem. Be sure to read the FAQ carefully. If your hardware fails and you replace almost anything in the machine, you have to pay for the product again. Not to mention that installing Pacemaker/Heartbeat/Corosync or your other HA solution of preference isn't particularly difficult, and is agreeably free. Kind regards, Chris -- This email is made from 100% recycled electrons -- _ -- Bandwidth and Colocation Provided by http://www.api-digital.com -- New to Asterisk? Join us for a live introductory webinar every Thurs: http://www.asterisk.org/hello asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [asterisk-users] I need a second opinion on a new phone system deployment
On Sat, Jun 15, 2013 at 10:28:50AM -0600, Nunya Biznatch wrote: Answer - There's a couple reasons I'm thinking this way, which may be misguided so thanks for making me think about it. First is redundancy. Offloading the PRIs and analog phones from the primary PBX means if there's an issue, I can take one of those PRI boxes down and not affect the PBX, and the other PRI box will continue to provide trunking services. Only the analog lines on that specific PRI box would be impacted. Second, I know I'll be transcoding G.711 to G.722 on those machines, 46 PRI channels, and 48 analog lines. I've been unable to find anything solid that gives me a definitive idea as to how much horsepower I need. If you do it correctly (g722 as primary codec and fallback to g711) and only accept g711 on the pri machines it costs you next to nothing. You can't buy a new machine to slow for the job of filling those channels by just bridging. But like others noted, you should really look into some device to handle that for you. My choice of hardware is Patton SmartNodes. They aren't cheap but in the past 8 years I have only seen 1 die (bad PSU). You didn't mention it yet, but will there be recordings of calls? Monitoring calls will keep the PBX in the loop. And I have been stung by bad controllers resulting in bad performance (HP cciss comes to mind with Debian/squeeze). -- _ -- Bandwidth and Colocation Provided by http://www.api-digital.com -- New to Asterisk? Join us for a live introductory webinar every Thurs: http://www.asterisk.org/hello asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
[asterisk-users] I need a second opinion on a new phone system deployment
Howdy All, They say opinions are like belly buttons, everybody has one. (that's the clean version of the saying). So I'm asking for yours. I hope you see it as a fun exercise. I'm designing a phone system from the ground up. Will be about 1000-1300 seats mixed 80/20 VoIP/Analog. 58-acre campus environment with 23 buildings. Userbase is emergency services organization, 24/7/365 operation. Down time is not an option, but blips are acceptable. Repair time is immediate. We need failover for the failover essentially. However, money is a major factor, so I have to do it all for nothing. So here's what I'm thinking. Please throw in your 2 cents. Network will be separate for phones. Fiber infrastructure available between buildings as well as copper. Internet access will be limited to a single administrative console on a temporary basis, and then only when remote 3rd party support is required. Access for 3rd party support will be supervised through remote access tools such as VNC, GoToMeeting, etc... etc... System will have zero access to local data network. This means all ancillary support servers such as DHCP, DNS, NTP, FTP, etc...etc... will be specific to the phone system. Yes, I know some responders at this time will become fixated on me gaining this connectivity. It ain't gonna happen. It's not an option. Period, end of story. These are the parameters I must work within. Trying to fix that will be a non-starter. The phone system will upgrade an existing TDM-based system. Mitel SX2000 with NuPoint Voicemail. This will not be a dump-trunk replacement. I expect at least a one to two-year transition, meaning we will have time to find problems, work bugs, and learn over time, with minimized impacts. It also means we'll be supporting two systems for some time. PBX is 97% serving your basic phone on the desk. Nothing special. Customers expect the usual list of features. There will be a goodly number of hints required for BLF on maybe 150 phones. There is one office of about 30 phones in a call-center environment that will need that service. They would be considered low volume (but don't tell them that). My Skills... I am not a Linux kung fu master, but I have built and managed my share of Linux servers on mutiple Linux flavors. I am a DCAA, having been through formal training, and have been playing with Asterisk for years, but always in fits and spurts and never in a live environment so I am by no means a kung fu master there either. I have started dabbling with virtualizations via XEN, but I am not comfortable enough with it to go live this first round. I can see myself implementing it in about three years once we're totally comfortable with what we have, so I can then have time to get that skill sorted. I was a network engineer for the US no3. telecom for a number of years, 10-years in comm-electronics in the military before that. Telecom my entire career. I've got the kung-fu to handle the network side of the house, and having administrated multiple PBXs for decade-plus, I've got the concepts down. No plans to build databases for things like directories, etc... I'm not greatly confident in those skills, and to date, haven't found anything that really stands out that would make me require that. You may think otherwise, so please chime in. I say that, but at the same time I recognize I may require a GUI interface once fully deployed to allow lower-skilled people to follow the motions to complete simple moves, adds, and changes. I'm fighting the uphill battle that is the GUI is new, CLI is old mentality. System will use G.722 for VoIP Phones. So there's the groundwork. Here's the hardware plan. Plan is to build my own servers following industry standards (ATX) and using industry standard equipment. Why? Spares? Whether redundant or not, I will still have spares for the most common elements on the shelf so equipment can be returned to service as quickly as possible. This will also allow me to be comfortable with more basic server configurations and help keep cost down. For example, Servers with single power supplies vs. dual. Also, components will be standardized for all equipment to aid in supply requirements. First the layout. 2-servers acting as gateways. Each handling 2 PRIs for outside trunks. They'll also handle the analog ports. Failover will be in the form of degraded trunk access if one should fail, but the second will be able to support services in degraded fashion. 2-servers acting as VoIP PBX. A primary and a spare. Meaning one will be capable of handling the load of the entire system, and the other will pickup when the other dies, an active/passive cluster. Will also take care of voicemail. Use of heartbeat, pacemaker, etc... etc... 2-servers for support services. DNS, DHCP, FTP, NTP, etc... etc...Basically, everything the phones need to run plus system monitoring via something like Nagios. 1-Desktop for
Re: [asterisk-users] I need a second opinion on a new phone system deployment
On Fri, Jun 14, 2013 at 09:43:29AM -0600, Nunya Biznatch wrote: System will use G.722 for VoIP Phones. [...] 2-servers acting as gateways. Each handling 2 PRIs for outside trunks. So why use g722? Just use your local g711 law and thus avoid the transcoding impact to/from the PSTN and calls between the voip and analog users. And why would you seperate the PBX and PRI machines? Those few extra channels don't really matter. -- _ -- Bandwidth and Colocation Provided by http://www.api-digital.com -- New to Asterisk? Join us for a live introductory webinar every Thurs: http://www.asterisk.org/hello asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [asterisk-users] I need a second opinion on a new phone system deployment
http://red-fone.com http://red-fone.com/products-new/fonebridge/ might be a good place look and see if other ideas pop up. They have good products. I am not affiliated with them, just a happy user on a couple of deployments. On Fri, Jun 14, 2013 at 11:43 AM, Nunya Biznatch aster...@ihearbanjos.comwrote: Howdy All, They say opinions are like belly buttons, everybody has one. (that's the clean version of the saying). So I'm asking for yours. I hope you see it as a fun exercise. I'm designing a phone system from the ground up. Will be about 1000-1300 seats mixed 80/20 VoIP/Analog. 58-acre campus environment with 23 buildings. Userbase is emergency services organization, 24/7/365 operation. Down time is not an option, but blips are acceptable. Repair time is immediate. We need failover for the failover essentially. However, money is a major factor, so I have to do it all for nothing. So here's what I'm thinking. Please throw in your 2 cents. Network will be separate for phones. Fiber infrastructure available between buildings as well as copper. Internet access will be limited to a single administrative console on a temporary basis, and then only when remote 3rd party support is required. Access for 3rd party support will be supervised through remote access tools such as VNC, GoToMeeting, etc... etc... System will have zero access to local data network. This means all ancillary support servers such as DHCP, DNS, NTP, FTP, etc...etc... will be specific to the phone system. Yes, I know some responders at this time will become fixated on me gaining this connectivity. It ain't gonna happen. It's not an option. Period, end of story. These are the parameters I must work within. Trying to fix that will be a non-starter. The phone system will upgrade an existing TDM-based system. Mitel SX2000 with NuPoint Voicemail. This will not be a dump-trunk replacement. I expect at least a one to two-year transition, meaning we will have time to find problems, work bugs, and learn over time, with minimized impacts. It also means we'll be supporting two systems for some time. PBX is 97% serving your basic phone on the desk. Nothing special. Customers expect the usual list of features. There will be a goodly number of hints required for BLF on maybe 150 phones. There is one office of about 30 phones in a call-center environment that will need that service. They would be considered low volume (but don't tell them that). My Skills... I am not a Linux kung fu master, but I have built and managed my share of Linux servers on mutiple Linux flavors. I am a DCAA, having been through formal training, and have been playing with Asterisk for years, but always in fits and spurts and never in a live environment so I am by no means a kung fu master there either. I have started dabbling with virtualizations via XEN, but I am not comfortable enough with it to go live this first round. I can see myself implementing it in about three years once we're totally comfortable with what we have, so I can then have time to get that skill sorted. I was a network engineer for the US no3. telecom for a number of years, 10-years in comm-electronics in the military before that. Telecom my entire career. I've got the kung-fu to handle the network side of the house, and having administrated multiple PBXs for decade-plus, I've got the concepts down. No plans to build databases for things like directories, etc... I'm not greatly confident in those skills, and to date, haven't found anything that really stands out that would make me require that. You may think otherwise, so please chime in. I say that, but at the same time I recognize I may require a GUI interface once fully deployed to allow lower-skilled people to follow the motions to complete simple moves, adds, and changes. I'm fighting the uphill battle that is the GUI is new, CLI is old mentality. System will use G.722 for VoIP Phones. So there's the groundwork. Here's the hardware plan. Plan is to build my own servers following industry standards (ATX) and using industry standard equipment. Why? Spares? Whether redundant or not, I will still have spares for the most common elements on the shelf so equipment can be returned to service as quickly as possible. This will also allow me to be comfortable with more basic server configurations and help keep cost down. For example, Servers with single power supplies vs. dual. Also, components will be standardized for all equipment to aid in supply requirements. First the layout. 2-servers acting as gateways. Each handling 2 PRIs for outside trunks. They'll also handle the analog ports. Failover will be in the form of degraded trunk access if one should fail, but the second will be able to support services in degraded fashion. 2-servers acting as VoIP PBX. A primary and a spare. Meaning one will be capable of handling the load of the entire system, and the other will pickup when