[asterisk-users] Large Asterisk system

2006-08-17 Thread Marnus van Niekerk




Hi,

what hardware (and distro) would you recommend to run an * box with
2500 SIP peers each doing 100 minutes of calls a month?
No transcoding at all - all calls will be g729.

According to my calcs if the calls are mainly spread over an 8 hour
period each day that is
(2500*100)/(8*60*30) = 17.36
Thus an average of 17-18 simultaneous calls at any given time but
obviously it will peak much higher than that.

Tx


Marnus van Niekerk

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[Asterisk-Users] Large Asterisk System

2006-06-01 Thread Charles R. Gomes

Hey Guys

I've been browsing the list looking for more information on asterisk 
behavior for large system.


As for now I've got a project with

300 SIP Extensions to start, with future growth (scalability)
Capability of recording all extensions simultaneously during peak time. 
And keeping the call recording for 30 days.

SIP Calls being terminated over a Cisco 5400 Gateway
Extra 100(+) FXO channels for incoming calls. (calls are going to be 
routed to the SIP Extensions.



As far as I get the Hardware setup that I thought that will handle it is:

Two Asterisk Server -  Quad Dual-Core Opteron Servers running for call 
processing
One SER Server - Dual Dual-Core Opteron for SIP routing and SIP 2 SIP 
calls (no recording)
One Serial Over Ethernet Storage for recording the calls (the two 
asterisk servers will commit to that device)


For the setup I was going to put a lot of RAM on the serves something 
like 8GB and make asterisk record the calls to a RAMDRIVE. Another 
process will run with low priority moving the Recordings from the 
RamDrive to the Storage.


If Asterisk One dies, Asterisk two assumes.
If SER dies, ASTERISK one or TWO will handle without the proxy.

We need to avoid single point of failure as also be able to scale well.

Other possibility that we may look is having instead of a storage, is 
having a Extra Asterisk getting the calls as a conference over IAX and 
saving it.
As far as I see it will also need to deal with the real time recording 
on RAM. Because seek delay on multiple files being writing as small 
chunks of data (20ms voice data) on the HD will make voice choppy. So 
the solution will have to involve moving from RAM do HardDrive as the 
conversation ends. As I read it will be easy to record a 30megs file 
instead of several small chunks of 100KiloBits. As the other process can 
run in low priority and not realtime. It may not affect asterisk 
recording to RAM.


Do you guys think that the servers will be able to handle that ? Does 
the SIP protocol can handle that redundancy ?



Has anyone designed a system similar to this ?

Does anyone wants to add a two cents comment on that design ?

Is any company available for paid consulting ?



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Re: [Asterisk-Users] Large Asterisk System

2006-06-01 Thread BJ Weschke

On 6/1/06, Charles R. Gomes [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Hey Guys

I've been browsing the list looking for more information on asterisk
behavior for large system.

As for now I've got a project with

300 SIP Extensions to start, with future growth (scalability)
Capability of recording all extensions simultaneously during peak time.
And keeping the call recording for 30 days.
SIP Calls being terminated over a Cisco 5400 Gateway
Extra 100(+) FXO channels for incoming calls. (calls are going to be
routed to the SIP Extensions.


As far as I get the Hardware setup that I thought that will handle it is:

Two Asterisk Server -  Quad Dual-Core Opteron Servers running for call
processing
One SER Server - Dual Dual-Core Opteron for SIP routing and SIP 2 SIP
calls (no recording)
One Serial Over Ethernet Storage for recording the calls (the two
asterisk servers will commit to that device)

For the setup I was going to put a lot of RAM on the serves something
like 8GB and make asterisk record the calls to a RAMDRIVE. Another
process will run with low priority moving the Recordings from the
RamDrive to the Storage.

If Asterisk One dies, Asterisk two assumes.
If SER dies, ASTERISK one or TWO will handle without the proxy.

We need to avoid single point of failure as also be able to scale well.

Other possibility that we may look is having instead of a storage, is
having a Extra Asterisk getting the calls as a conference over IAX and
saving it.
As far as I see it will also need to deal with the real time recording
on RAM. Because seek delay on multiple files being writing as small
chunks of data (20ms voice data) on the HD will make voice choppy. So
the solution will have to involve moving from RAM do HardDrive as the
conversation ends. As I read it will be easy to record a 30megs file
instead of several small chunks of 100KiloBits. As the other process can
run in low priority and not realtime. It may not affect asterisk
recording to RAM.

Do you guys think that the servers will be able to handle that ? Does
the SIP protocol can handle that redundancy ?


Has anyone designed a system similar to this ?

Does anyone wants to add a two cents comment on that design ?

Is any company available for paid consulting ?



Your largest challenge(s) will be recording for that many
agents/channels at the same time and splitting up some of the queue
engine work for redundancy. The memory approach is a proven approach
using Monitor and makes sense as memory is a faster i/o than disk, but
you still will have to deal with the tiny chunks getting written at a
time which is just a function of the way Monitor itself works.
MixMonitor and the technology behind it queues the frames up and then
writes when the queue is full, so that's a slightly better approach as
far as scalability goes.

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