Re: [asterisk-users] Linksys SPA3102 - PSTN hangup detection in the UK
Henry.L.Coleman wrote: Yep, just swop the two wires. Sometimes the Tip and Ring get reversed and most loop start interfaces don't really care (they work either way). It's worth a try since if the disconnect is a reverse polarity flash then the card may see not see this condition as it is already reversed. I have a similar problem with Foriegn Exchange line (FX) but I haven't had time to visit the client to check this out yet. Thanks Henry. I'll definitely give this a go. Faris. ___ --Bandwidth and Colocation provided by Easynews.com -- asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [asterisk-users] Linksys SPA3102 - PSTN hangup detection in the UK
You are welcome. Please let me know if this makes any difference. Henry L.Coleman CEO *VoIP-PBX* 1-866-415-5355 Toronto Ontario Canada Henry.L.Coleman wrote: Yep, just swop the two wires. Sometimes the Tip and Ring get reversed and most loop start interfaces don't really care (they work either way). It's worth a try since if the disconnect is a reverse polarity flash then the card may see not see this condition as it is already reversed. I have a similar problem with Foriegn Exchange line (FX) but I haven't had time to visit the client to check this out yet. Thanks Henry. I'll definitely give this a go. Faris. ___ --Bandwidth and Colocation provided by Easynews.com -- asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
[asterisk-users] Linksys SPA3102 - PSTN hangup detection in the UK
Do any *UK* users have an SPA3102 (the newer version of the SPA3000/Sipura SPA3000) correctly detecting when an incoming PSTN call has hung up? I've read everything I can find, including an SPA3000 UK setup PDF that lists UK ring etc tone settings, port impedances, disconnect tone settings and so on, but I'm still not getting PSTN hangup detection to work. Any help would be appreciated. Thanks, Faris. ___ --Bandwidth and Colocation provided by Easynews.com -- asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [asterisk-users] Linksys SPA3102 - PSTN hangup detection in the UK
On Tue, 2006-10-24 at 12:05 +0100, Faris Raouf wrote: Do any *UK* users have an SPA3102 (the newer version of the SPA3000/Sipura SPA3000) correctly detecting when an incoming PSTN call has hung up? I've read everything I can find, including an SPA3000 UK setup PDF that lists UK ring etc tone settings, port impedances, disconnect tone settings and so on, but I'm still not getting PSTN hangup detection to work. I got an spa-3000 that works perfectly well now. (UK) I had some trouble at first though. What firmware are you using and what's the symptom? does it not hang up or does it hang up during calls? Conrad ___ --Bandwidth and Colocation provided by Easynews.com -- asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [asterisk-users] Linksys SPA3102 - PSTN hangup detection in the UK
Conrad Wood wrote: On Tue, 2006-10-24 at 12:05 +0100, Faris Raouf wrote: Do any *UK* users have an SPA3102 (the newer version of the SPA3000/Sipura SPA3000) correctly detecting when an incoming PSTN call has hung up? I've read everything I can find, including an SPA3000 UK setup PDF that lists UK ring etc tone settings, port impedances, disconnect tone settings and so on, but I'm still not getting PSTN hangup detection to work. I got an spa-3000 that works perfectly well now. (UK) I had some trouble at first though. What firmware are you using and what's the symptom? does it not hang up or does it hang up during calls? Conrad Thanks Conrad, It is brand new so I assume the firmware is the latest?: Software Version: 3.2.6(GWa) Hardware Version: 1.1.5. It just doesn't detect real hangups at all. If the person calling hangs up, either before and after the call is answered, the SPA will eventually timeout after about 30 seconds and hang up - in other words it does not detect the disconnect tone like it should. I have other small niggles but I'm sure I can sure them with some config tweeking but right now the hangup problem is really my top priority. Faris. ___ --Bandwidth and Colocation provided by Easynews.com -- asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [asterisk-users] Linksys SPA3102 - PSTN hangup detection in the UK
It is brand new so I assume the firmware is the latest?: Software Version: 3.2.6(GWa) Hardware Version: 1.1.5. It just doesn't detect real hangups at all. If the person calling hangs up, either before and after the call is answered, the SPA will eventually timeout after about 30 seconds and hang up - in other words it does not detect the disconnect tone like it should. Interesting, I had it the other way round. It detected the disconnect tone during conversations. I disabled disconnect tone detection. *I think* it detects a polarity reversal instead. (It's been a while and once it worked I forgot about it) I posted my settings here http://www.conradwood.net/sipura.pdf Are they any different from yours? Conrad ___ --Bandwidth and Colocation provided by Easynews.com -- asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [asterisk-users] Linksys SPA3102 - PSTN hangup detection in the UK
Conrad Wood wrote: It is brand new so I assume the firmware is the latest?: Software Version: 3.2.6(GWa) Hardware Version: 1.1.5. It just doesn't detect real hangups at all. If the person calling hangs up, either before and after the call is answered, the SPA will eventually timeout after about 30 seconds and hang up - in other words it does not detect the disconnect tone like it should. Interesting, I had it the other way round. It detected the disconnect tone during conversations. I disabled disconnect tone detection. *I think* it detects a polarity reversal instead. (It's been a while and once it worked I forgot about it) I posted my settings here http://www.conradwood.net/sipura.pdf Are they any different from yours? Conrad There are some differences, yes. Before I begin I should say that I think I've sorted out my main problem. I basically experimented with putting the values that were in the disconnect detect field into the ring tone field so I could hear them. Although the 400Hz tone was correct with my initial setting [EMAIL PROTECTED];20(*/0/1) and subsequent settings (including the same as you have), they just didn't sound right. There would be two distinct volumes on the 400Hz tone. In the end I'm using [EMAIL PROTECTED];2(0/*/1). This may seem backwards but seems to work. The higher the value of the number of repeats (2 in my case), the longer it takes to detect the disconnect tone. Also in this version of the firmware it does not seem to be necessary to put two tone values. But yes we have differences in our config other than that. You have polarity reversal detection and I do not (I did try with it on, but it didn't help even though there I have measured a polarity reversal on disconnect) You also have long silence detection off, which would seem logical to me. I have it on, but will probably switch it off in case it drops the line if I put the phone down to look for something etc. You have min CPC at 0.085 and mine is at 0.09. We also differ slightly at the bottom of the page. You have 3ms On hook speed, I have less than 5ms. You have Line In Use Voltage 30 and I have 25. You have Ring Validation 100Ms and I have 256. You have Ring Indication Delay of 256 and I have 0. I will now try your settings to see if it helps with my next big problem --- I'm not getting a CLI number. Instead I get the Username I've allocated to my SPA. Once again thanks hugely for your help on this. It is really good to be able to compare configs. Faris. ___ --Bandwidth and Colocation provided by Easynews.com -- asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [asterisk-users] Linksys SPA3102 - PSTN hangup detection in the UK
You have polarity reversal detection and I do not (I did try with it on, but it didn't help even though there I have measured a polarity reversal on disconnect) FWIW: I once had a nasty DSL filter that broke polarity reversal detection. You have 3ms On hook speed, I have less than 5ms. You have Line In Use Voltage 30 and I have 25. You have Ring Validation 100Ms and I have 256. You have Ring Indication Delay of 256 and I have 0. I had problems with my (old) phone ringing briefly at some stage, so I experimented a little. I will now try your settings to see if it helps with my next big problem --- I'm not getting a CLI number. Instead I get the Username I've allocated to my SPA. ah. Do you have callerid from BT (bt line?). I signed up for something called BT Privacy or so which is free and gives you callerid. If you turn on logging (debug) on the sipura it'll log the received callerid via syslog. Also helpful to check under info Last seen number or so. Conrad ___ --Bandwidth and Colocation provided by Easynews.com -- asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [asterisk-users] Linksys SPA3102 - PSTN hangup detection in the UK
Just a thought ... try reversing the Tip and Ring Henry L.Coleman CEO *VoIP-PBX* 1-866-415-5355 Toronto Ontario Canada You have polarity reversal detection and I do not (I did try with it on, but it didn't help even though there I have measured a polarity reversal on disconnect) FWIW: I once had a nasty DSL filter that broke polarity reversal detection. You have 3ms On hook speed, I have less than 5ms. You have Line In Use Voltage 30 and I have 25. You have Ring Validation 100Ms and I have 256. You have Ring Indication Delay of 256 and I have 0. I had problems with my (old) phone ringing briefly at some stage, so I experimented a little. I will now try your settings to see if it helps with my next big problem --- I'm not getting a CLI number. Instead I get the Username I've allocated to my SPA. ah. Do you have callerid from BT (bt line?). I signed up for something called BT Privacy or so which is free and gives you callerid. If you turn on logging (debug) on the sipura it'll log the received callerid via syslog. Also helpful to check under info Last seen number or so. Conrad ___ --Bandwidth and Colocation provided by Easynews.com -- asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users ___ --Bandwidth and Colocation provided by Easynews.com -- asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [asterisk-users] Linksys SPA3102 - PSTN hangup detection in the UK
ah. Do you have callerid from BT (bt line?). I signed up for something called BT Privacy or so which is free and gives you callerid. If you turn on logging (debug) on the sipura it'll log the received callerid via syslog. Also helpful to check under info Last seen number or so. There is CLI on this particular line. I even managed to get it to work with the TD400P (or whatever the analog card with 4 modules is that Digium sells for Asterisk) in the past -- but no luck with hangup detection on that at all so I gave up on it. I'm not seeing any caller id in the syslog nor the last seen number thing. (which helpfully just says , :-) I thought your suggestion about the filter was excellent so I tried a few different ones (we are an ISP so I have a few hanging around ;-) ) but to no avail. Faris. ___ --Bandwidth and Colocation provided by Easynews.com -- asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [asterisk-users] Linksys SPA3102 - PSTN hangup detection in the UK
Henry.L.Coleman wrote: Just a thought ... try reversing the Tip and Ring Henry L.Coleman CEO Henry, Apologies for answering the wrong message in my last post. I thought I was answering the one from Conrad. Sorry! By reversing the Tip and Ring you mean physically in the wiring or somewhere in the SPA? I can see Forward/Reverse settings for Line1 in the config, but nothing on the PSTN side? Thanks, Faris. ___ --Bandwidth and Colocation provided by Easynews.com -- asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [asterisk-users] Linksys SPA3102 - PSTN hangup detection in the UK
I'm not seeing any caller id in the syslog nor the last seen number thing. (which helpfully just says , :-) I'd be pretty sure that the device doesn't detect the cli. My one does list the number under the 'last seen number thing'. What sort of line is it? Straight BT? telewest? Some converter? I thought your suggestion about the filter was excellent so I tried a few different ones (we are an ISP so I have a few hanging around ;-) ) but to no avail. Thanks. It's unlikely that it would affect cli. It was meant as a possible explanation for the disappearing polarity reversal. Conrad ___ --Bandwidth and Colocation provided by Easynews.com -- asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [asterisk-users] Linksys SPA3102 - PSTN hangup detection in the UK
Conrad Wood wrote: I'm not seeing any caller id in the syslog nor the last seen number thing. (which helpfully just says , :-) I'd be pretty sure that the device doesn't detect the cli. My one does list the number under the 'last seen number thing'. What sort of line is it? Straight BT? telewest? Some converter? I thought your suggestion about the filter was excellent so I tried a few different ones (we are an ISP so I have a few hanging around ;-) ) but to no avail. Thanks. It's unlikely that it would affect cli. It was meant as a possible explanation for the disappearing polarity reversal. Conrad I think I've found where the polarity reversal is going ... I think my lightning/spike filter is eating it or something. When I look at the syslog with the filter removed I see messages about polarity reversals. With the filter they are missing. Yet the phones I normally have plugged in still seem to read the CLI with no difficulty with or without the filter, and the SPA can't read them with or without the filter. Very fustrating. Yes, it is a bog standard BT line. I've tried using the CLI detection mode without the PR but that doesn't work either. I'm not sure what to try next Faris. ___ --Bandwidth and Colocation provided by Easynews.com -- asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [asterisk-users] Linksys SPA3102 - PSTN hangup detection in the UK
Yep, just swop the two wires. Sometimes the Tip and Ring get reversed and most loop start interfaces don't really care (they work either way). It's worth a try since if the disconnect is a reverse polarity flash then the card may see not see this condition as it is already reversed. I have a similar problem with Foriegn Exchange line (FX) but I haven't had time to visit the client to check this out yet. Henry L.Coleman CEO *VoIP-PBX* 1-866-415-5355 Toronto Ontario Canada Henry.L.Coleman wrote: Just a thought ... try reversing the Tip and Ring Henry L.Coleman CEO Henry, Apologies for answering the wrong message in my last post. I thought I was answering the one from Conrad. Sorry! By reversing the Tip and Ring you mean physically in the wiring or somewhere in the SPA? I can see Forward/Reverse settings for Line1 in the config, but nothing on the PSTN side? Thanks, Faris. ___ --Bandwidth and Colocation provided by Easynews.com -- asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
