Re: [asterisk-users] Load balancing Asterisk.

2008-12-12 Thread Al lists
Foundry serverIron does support SIP and its ASIC not a linux box Load balancer like F5, Refer to Chapter 10 (page 677) of ServerIron manual. It explains everything in detail. Also you may need to play with source nat a little bit to make your specific configuration work, but it should work, at

[asterisk-users] Load balancing Asterisk.

2008-11-20 Thread Nitzan Kon
Hello! We're looking for a solution to reliably load balance our Asterisk boxes. So far we've been using a hodge-podge of directing different services to different boxes/IPs, but eventually I'd like to consolidate things so we can present a single IP address to the outside world. My question is

Re: [asterisk-users] Load balancing Asterisk.

2008-11-20 Thread Grygoriy Dobrovolskyy
2008/11/20 Nitzan Kon [EMAIL PROTECTED] Hello! We're looking for a solution to reliably load balance our Asterisk boxes. So far we've been using a hodge-podge of directing different services to different boxes/IPs, but eventually I'd like to consolidate things so we can present a single IP

Re: [asterisk-users] Load balancing Asterisk.

2008-11-20 Thread Nitzan Kon
--- On Thu, 11/20/08, Grygoriy Dobrovolskyy [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 2 openser servers with 3 ip adresses (1 virtual) + heartbeat to ensure the failover + watchdog to ensure if opensips/kamalio/openser crashes a nice failover reboot, it is working stable here (dispatching to 10 servers +

Re: [asterisk-users] Load balancing Asterisk.

2008-11-20 Thread Alex Balashov
What do you mean by hardware options? There are no ASIC-assisted SIP load balancers out there. :-) The embedded hardware-based options are load balancers built just like PCs - often on top of a UNIX kernel - that run a software application-aware load balancing suite. Your best bet is a

Re: [asterisk-users] Load balancing Asterisk.

2008-11-20 Thread Jeff LaCoursiere
Hardware solutions are of course simply packaged software solutions. Personally I would go with something that has this wonderful support base and quick solutions versus dealing with a vendor. You did mention that price was a consideration, right? j On Thu, 20 Nov 2008, Nitzan Kon wrote:

Re: [asterisk-users] Load balancing Asterisk.

2008-11-20 Thread Nitzan Kon
Alex, I realize and agree that hardware load balancers are actually software based. I'm less concerned about that and more about the general specs: Foundry ServerIron XL: rated for 1,000,000 concurrent connections Linux box where OpenSIPS is sitting: rated for ...??? Not to mention a simple

Re: [asterisk-users] Load balancing Asterisk.

2008-11-20 Thread Alex Balashov
Nitzan Kon wrote: Foundry ServerIron XL: rated for 1,000,000 concurrent connections Linux box where OpenSIPS is sitting: rated for ...??? Because OpenSER's load balancer is hash-based and not stateful, it is rated for far, far more than that. -- Alex Balashov Evariste Systems Web:

Re: [asterisk-users] Load balancing Asterisk.

2008-11-20 Thread SIP
Unless the LB is SIP-aware, and can maintain a SIP session, I don't see how it would work. As the SIP command stream sends discrete commands, without some sort of basic level of session awareness, there's no guarantee over a reasonable-length call that the INVITE and BYE would even get sent to the

Re: [asterisk-users] Load balancing Asterisk.

2008-11-20 Thread Alex Balashov
The solution to make this work and still work statelessly is to hash various unique identifying bits of the SIP headers without maintaining transactional, session or dialog information as such. SIP wrote: Unless the LB is SIP-aware, and can maintain a SIP session, I don't see how it would

Re: [asterisk-users] Load balancing Asterisk.

2008-11-20 Thread Grey Man
This baby talks about being able to do hardware SIP load balancing. http://www.f5.com/news-press-events/press/2007/20070212.html I've never used an f5 product so I can't provide any comments from experience. I did look at an f5 load balancer product once and the price was over 6 figures that was

Re: [asterisk-users] Load balancing Asterisk.

2008-11-20 Thread Nitzan Kon
N, SIP-aware LBs do exist - but way way out of my price range. Alex, Remember we are an Asterisk-based provider. I'm not going to drop enough money on a load balancer to go bankrupt. ;) That's exactly why I'm wondering if it's possible to do this with a DUMB load balancer. i.e. one that would

Re: [asterisk-users] Load balancing Asterisk.

2008-11-20 Thread Alex Balashov
I was about to say, I'm sure F5 can do it... but... price was over 6 figures Why??! It's spending money on these types of things when they are unnecessary that is the undoing of every struggling VoIP provider I watch, in the misguided belief that only will half a million dollars get you

Re: [asterisk-users] Load balancing Asterisk.

2008-11-20 Thread Alex Balashov
Nitzan Kon wrote: My concerns with OpenSIPS: 1. It's a software based solution, which means higher chance of software-related failure, and higher chance of failure due to problems with the Linux box hosting it. A little bit of proper engineering will overcome that reasonably. 2. Overkill

Re: [asterisk-users] Load balancing Asterisk.

2008-11-20 Thread SIP
Alex Balashov wrote: I was about to say, I'm sure F5 can do it... but... price was over 6 figures Why??! It's spending money on these types of things when they are unnecessary that is the undoing of every struggling VoIP provider I watch, in the misguided belief that only will half a

Re: [asterisk-users] Load balancing Asterisk.

2008-11-20 Thread Grygoriy Dobrovolskyy
2. Overkill to install and maintain (if we can get a simpler solution) I am not agreed on point 2: If I understood how to install opensips + heartbeat WITHOUT knowing any program (opensips ? heartbear ?) or programming language(hell yes!) in a week ( just knew what's invite and bye ;) a more

Re: [asterisk-users] Load balancing Asterisk.

2008-11-20 Thread Nitzan Kon
--- On Thu, 11/20/08, Grygoriy Dobrovolskyy [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I am not agreed on point 2: If I understood how to install opensips + heartbeat WITHOUT knowing any program (opensips ? heartbear ?) or programming language(hell yes!) in a week ( just knew what's invite and bye ;) a more

Re: [asterisk-users] Load balancing Asterisk.

2008-11-20 Thread Alex Balashov
Nitzan Kon wrote: --- On Thu, 11/20/08, Grygoriy Dobrovolskyy [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I am not agreed on point 2: If I understood how to install opensips + heartbeat WITHOUT knowing any program (opensips ? heartbear ?) or programming language(hell yes!) in a week ( just knew what's

Re: [asterisk-users] Load balancing Asterisk.

2008-11-20 Thread Grey Man
3. Incoming calls - I admit complete ignorance. I don't know how OpenSIPS handles incoming calls, but for those to arrive at the user reliably they must arrive from the same IP address the user is registered to. Otherwise their broadband router's NAT firewall will just block the connection.

Re: [asterisk-users] Load balancing Asterisk.

2008-11-20 Thread Alex Balashov
SIP wrote: As for the current F5 SIP load balancer, we tried it a few years back and it was a dismal failure. It wanted to do cookie-based SIP load balancing and only worked with certain SIP proxies. I assume that is because there is no way RFC-supported way to insert a cookie into a SIP