Re: [asterisk-users] POTS 4K linear codec

2009-11-13 Thread Benny Amorsen
Cary Fitch ca...@usawide.net writes:

 Is there a plain 64K codec that would simply pass through the SIP server and
 be handed off to a PRI or phone co. trunk on a T1 on the other side of the
 SIP server?  Digital 64K telco sounds very good as a phone conversation.

You can't get a guaranteed bit-for-bit identical stream through SIP/RTP
or IAX. You can pick the same codecs as the PSTN uses (Alaw or ulaw,
depending on country), but jitter and packet loss still makes things
like DTMF or fax/modem unreliable. For DTMF it is better to signal that
in RTP or SIP, for fax you want T.38, and for modems you need incense
and strange rites at midnight.


/Benny


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[asterisk-users] POTS 4K linear codec

2009-11-12 Thread Cary Fitch
I am not sure what the problems are and the reasons for the basic 64K modems
used in VOIP are.  I understand the compressed codecs that get the bandwidth
down to 20-30 K.  And perhaps the 64K units give much better potential audio
than you would get on a normal POTS line.

But, as phone circuits VOIP/SIP doesn't seem to perform as well as plane old
phones.

Multiple transcodings cause issues.  Today a cell phone or a POTS line phone
can send DTMF clearly enough to operate a credit card or other interactive
tone based system at the far end.  With SIP it is sometimes chancy.

Is there a plain 64K codec that would simply pass through the SIP server and
be handed off to a PRI or phone co. trunk on a T1 on the other side of the
SIP server?  Digital 64K telco sounds very good as a phone conversation.

Cary Fitch





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Re: [asterisk-users] POTS 4K linear codec

2009-11-12 Thread Jared Smith
On Thu, 2009-11-12 at 08:53 -0600, Cary Fitch wrote:
 Digital 64K telco sounds very good as a phone conversation.

Digital 64k audio coming across a T1 is essentially identical to the
ulaw codec in VoIP.  Digital 64k audio coming across an E1 is
essentially identical to the alaw codec.

-- 
Jared Smith
Training Manager
Digium, Inc.


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Re: [asterisk-users] POTS 4K linear codec

2009-11-12 Thread Jeff LaCoursiere

On Thu, 12 Nov 2009, Cary Fitch wrote:

 I am not sure what the problems are and the reasons for the basic 64K modems
 used in VOIP are.  I understand the compressed codecs that get the bandwidth
 down to 20-30 K.  And perhaps the 64K units give much better potential audio
 than you would get on a normal POTS line.

 But, as phone circuits VOIP/SIP doesn't seem to perform as well as plane old
 phones.

 Multiple transcodings cause issues.  Today a cell phone or a POTS line phone
 can send DTMF clearly enough to operate a credit card or other interactive
 tone based system at the far end.  With SIP it is sometimes chancy.

 Is there a plain 64K codec that would simply pass through the SIP server and
 be handed off to a PRI or phone co. trunk on a T1 on the other side of the
 SIP server?  Digital 64K telco sounds very good as a phone conversation.

 Cary Fitch

Isn't that ulaw/alaw?

j






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