Re: [asterisk-users] Question about g729

2009-12-02 Thread Dan Journo
However, I've read somewhere that passthrough doesnt require a license. Which 
means that if your sip clients can transmit in g729 and your voip provider can 
receive in g729, your asterisk server won't need to do any encoding and 
therefore doesn't need any licenses. It is simply passing the data through from 
your sip clients to the voip provider. Not sure what happens if you want to 
play recorded messages and things. It would probably need licenses then because 
its encoding.


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All calls.

Landy Landy wrote:

 You only need to purchase 10 licenses, if all 10 clients
 will be making calls at the same time.

 Ok. Does this apply only for outbound calls using a voip provider and/or 
 applies to calls within the lan?





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Re: [asterisk-users] Question about g729

2009-12-02 Thread Dan Journo
Sorry for the repetition.
I didn't see the other responses.


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Tilghman Lesher wrote:
 On Tuesday 01 December 2009 19:10:08 Alex Balashov wrote:
 All calls.

 Landy Landy wrote:
 You only need to purchase 10 licenses, if all 10 clients
 will be making calls at the same time.
 Ok. Does this apply only for outbound calls using a voip provider and/or
 applies to calls within the lan?

 An additional clarification:  it only applies to calls in which codecs need to
 be transcoded.  If you have a g729 call bridged to another g729 call, then no
 license is used in that call path.

Also, the only consideration, isn't the endpoints. If the call is being
recorded or you are in a conference, then the call needs to be
transcoded for mixing purposes.

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Re: [asterisk-users] Question about g729

2009-12-02 Thread Alex Balashov
My understanding is that Asterisk will not pass through calls in codecs 
for which it does not have support and/or licenses; it simply does not 
advertise them in the SDP negotiation.

Perhaps I am wrong.

Dan Journo wrote:

 However, I've read somewhere that passthrough doesnt require a license. Which 
 means that if your sip clients can transmit in g729 and your voip provider 
 can receive in g729, your asterisk server won't need to do any encoding and 
 therefore doesn't need any licenses. It is simply passing the data through 
 from your sip clients to the voip provider. Not sure what happens if you want 
 to play recorded messages and things. It would probably need licenses then 
 because its encoding.
 
 
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 Sent: 02 December 2009 01:13
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 asterisk-users@lists.digium.com
 Subject: Re: [asterisk-users] Question about g729
 
 
 All calls.
 
 Landy Landy wrote:
 
 You only need to purchase 10 licenses, if all 10 clients
 will be making calls at the same time.
 Ok. Does this apply only for outbound calls using a voip provider and/or 
 applies to calls within the lan?





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Re: [asterisk-users] Question about g729

2009-12-02 Thread Kevin P. Fleming
Alex Balashov wrote:
 My understanding is that Asterisk will not pass through calls in codecs 
 for which it does not have support and/or licenses; it simply does not 
 advertise them in the SDP negotiation.

'support' - yes, 'licenses' - no. Asterisk supports passthrough,
recording and playback of quite a few codecs for which there are no
transcoding modules available at all (G.723.1, H.263/4, etc). G.729
falls into this category if there is no transcoding module loaded, or if
there are no licenses available.

The only time that Asterisk will not offer G.729 in an outbound
negotiation is if the incoming channel is not in G.729 (so thus would
require transcoding) and there is no transcoding path available. The
same is true for other codecs that don't have transcoding available...
but by definition, this is not 'passthrough'.

Also, to clarify an earlier point, Digium makes all the standard
Asterisk prompt sets available in G.729 format, so the built-in
applications can be used on G.729 channels without requiring transcoding.

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[asterisk-users] Question about g729

2009-12-01 Thread Landy Landy
Hello.

I am currently testing an asterisk server using the default codecs, I have 
allow=all, and noticed everytime I test it in a wireless lan the latency 
rockets off the roof to over 1000ms. I would like to test g729 since it uses 
less bandwidth but, read somewhere I have to buy a license per every channel I 
have. Does this means if I have my server connected with 10 sip clients I need 
to buy a license for 10 or more?


  

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Re: [asterisk-users] Question about g729

2009-12-01 Thread Dan Journo
You pay per channel. Which I believe to mean, if you have 10 sip clients but 
only 2 clients make calls at the same time, you only need 2 licenses.
You only need to purchase 10 licenses, if all 10 clients will be making calls 
at the same time.

I hope that makes sense. Maybe someone can explain it better or correct me if 
Im wrong.

Dan

 
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Subject: [asterisk-users] Question about g729

Hello.

I am currently testing an asterisk server using the default codecs, I have 
allow=all, and noticed everytime I test it in a wireless lan the latency 
rockets off the roof to over 1000ms. I would like to test g729 since it uses 
less bandwidth but, read somewhere I have to buy a license per every channel I 
have. Does this means if I have my server connected with 10 sip clients I need 
to buy a license for 10 or more?


  

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Re: [asterisk-users] Question about g729

2009-12-01 Thread Landy Landy
 You only need to purchase 10 licenses, if all 10 clients
 will be making calls at the same time.

Ok. Does this apply only for outbound calls using a voip provider and/or 
applies to calls within the lan?



  

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Re: [asterisk-users] Question about g729

2009-12-01 Thread Alex Balashov
All calls.

Landy Landy wrote:

 You only need to purchase 10 licenses, if all 10 clients
 will be making calls at the same time.
 
 Ok. Does this apply only for outbound calls using a voip provider and/or 
 applies to calls within the lan?
 
 
 
   
 
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Re: [asterisk-users] Question about g729

2009-12-01 Thread Tilghman Lesher
On Tuesday 01 December 2009 19:10:08 Alex Balashov wrote:
 All calls.

 Landy Landy wrote:
  You only need to purchase 10 licenses, if all 10 clients
  will be making calls at the same time.
 
  Ok. Does this apply only for outbound calls using a voip provider and/or
  applies to calls within the lan?

An additional clarification:  it only applies to calls in which codecs need to
be transcoded.  If you have a g729 call bridged to another g729 call, then no
license is used in that call path.

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Re: [asterisk-users] Question about g729

2009-12-01 Thread Thomas Kenyon
Tilghman Lesher wrote:
 On Tuesday 01 December 2009 19:10:08 Alex Balashov wrote:
 All calls.

 Landy Landy wrote:
 You only need to purchase 10 licenses, if all 10 clients
 will be making calls at the same time.
 Ok. Does this apply only for outbound calls using a voip provider and/or
 applies to calls within the lan?
 
 An additional clarification:  it only applies to calls in which codecs need to
 be transcoded.  If you have a g729 call bridged to another g729 call, then no
 license is used in that call path.
 
Also, the only consideration, isn't the endpoints. If the call is being 
recorded or you are in a conference, then the call needs to be 
transcoded for mixing purposes.

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