[asterisk-users] RFC -- Improving the quality of the mailing lists

2009-01-27 Thread Steve Edwards
The -user and -dev mailing lists are a valuable resource -- when they are not cluttered by posts unrelated to the charter of the lists. In my limited memory, this last weekend represents a new low in the relevant subject to noise ratio. Replying to requests with meaningless, misleading, or

Re: [asterisk-users] RFC -- Improving the quality of the mailing lists

2009-01-27 Thread David Gibbons
:58 AM To: Asterisk Users Mailing List Subject: [asterisk-users] RFC -- Improving the quality of the mailing lists The -user and -dev mailing lists are a valuable resource -- when they are not cluttered by posts unrelated to the charter of the lists. In my limited memory, this last weekend

Re: [asterisk-users] RFC -- Improving the quality of the mailing lists

2009-01-27 Thread Tilghman Lesher
On Tuesday 27 January 2009 09:57:54 Steve Edwards wrote: The -user and -dev mailing lists are a valuable resource -- when they are not cluttered by posts unrelated to the charter of the lists. In my limited memory, this last weekend represents a new low in the relevant subject to noise ratio.

Re: [asterisk-users] RFC -- Improving the quality of the mailing lists

2009-01-27 Thread Robert Broyles
I think we'd be better off posting a regular FAQ, perhaps weekly, with some of these suggestions, as well as providing a link to that FAQ from the mailing list signup page, along with a STRONG suggestion to peruse the FAQ first. I agree with this 100% I'm still pretty new to the mailing

Re: [asterisk-users] RFC -- Improving the quality of the mailing lists

2009-01-27 Thread Mik Cheez
It seems to me that everything one may want to know would be contained on voip-info.org People don't ask stupid questions because of a lack of a FAQ to read, they ask stupid questions because they're too lazy do to the footwork. Robert Broyles wrote: I think we'd be better off posting a

Re: [asterisk-users] RFC -- Improving the quality of the mailing lists

2009-01-27 Thread Robert Broyles
I wouldn't say that voip-info.org has everything that a person would want to know. This is especially true of any recent changes to dialplan applications (and their available options) Voip-info.org is a great place to start, and often you will find an answer there. But not always. People are

Re: [asterisk-users] RFC -- Improving the quality of the mailing lists

2009-01-27 Thread Noah Miller
It seems to me that everything one may want to know would be contained on voip-info.org Hmm. Dangerous statement. There are many things on the WIKI that are quite outdated, and a great many other things that aren't there at all. People don't ask stupid questions because of a lack of a FAQ

Re: [asterisk-users] RFC -- Improving the quality of the mailing lists

2009-01-27 Thread Wilton Helm
It seems to me that everything one may want to know would be contained on voip-info.org My own experience is that it covers a very broad spectrum (far broader than Asterisk) and in a rather terse manner. I have spent an hour or two at a time pouring over a topic there and come away little

Re: [asterisk-users] RFC -- Improving the quality of the mailing lists

2009-01-27 Thread Mik Cheez
If you find something on a WIKI that is outdated, guess what you have an opportunity to do . . . Noah Miller wrote: It seems to me that everything one may want to know would be contained on voip-info.org Hmm. Dangerous statement. There are many things on the WIKI that are quite

Re: [asterisk-users] RFC -- Improving the quality of the mailing lists

2009-01-27 Thread Ira
At 09:30 AM 1/27/2009, you wrote: People are always going to ask stupid questions. For me it's not so much the stupid questions as the expectations that we're here to solve their problems according to their needs. If that continues to happen and the noise level gets high enough those that have

Re: [asterisk-users] RFC -- Improving the quality of the mailing lists

2009-01-27 Thread SIP
Ira wrote: At 09:30 AM 1/27/2009, you wrote: People are always going to ask stupid questions. For me it's not so much the stupid questions as the expectations that we're here to solve their problems according to their needs. If that continues to happen and the noise level gets

Re: [asterisk-users] RFC -- Improving the quality of the mailing lists

2009-01-27 Thread Jared Smith
On Tue, 2009-01-27 at 10:13 -0700, Robert Broyles wrote: I'm still pretty new to the mailing lists myself. I don't consider myself a novice Asterisk user, but one of my biggest 'complaints' is the lack of a well documented FAQ or Manual for Asterisk. Asterisk is truly an open-source

Re: [asterisk-users] RFC -- Improving the quality of the mailing lists

2009-01-27 Thread David Gibbons
- From: asterisk-users-boun...@lists.digium.com [mailto:asterisk-users-boun...@lists.digium.com] On Behalf Of Ira Sent: Tuesday, January 27, 2009 1:59 PM To: Asterisk Users Mailing List - Non-Commercial Discussion Subject: Re: [asterisk-users] RFC -- Improving the quality of the mailing lists At 09:30

Re: [asterisk-users] RFC -- Improving the quality of the mailing lists

2009-01-27 Thread Robert Broyles
Jared Smith wrote: On Tue, 2009-01-27 at 10:13 -0700, Robert Broyles wrote: I'm still pretty new to the mailing lists myself. I don't consider myself a novice Asterisk user, but one of my biggest 'complaints' is the lack of a well documented FAQ or Manual for Asterisk.

Re: [asterisk-users] RFC -- Improving the quality of the mailing lists

2009-01-27 Thread Tilghman Lesher
On Tuesday 27 January 2009 12:35:15 Wilton Helm wrote: It seems to me that everything one may want to know would be contained on voip-info.org My own experience is that it covers a very broad spectrum (far broader than Asterisk) and in a rather terse manner. I have spent an hour or two at a

Re: [asterisk-users] RFC -- Improving the quality of the mailing lists

2009-01-27 Thread Jai Rangi
** I understand. As someone else already mentioned, Voip-Info.org is for more than just Asterisk. Perhaps if we created a single source that was just for Asterisk...where everyone could contribute towards making the documentation better. I would be very interested in helping sponsoring

Re: [asterisk-users] RFC -- Improving the quality of the mailing lists

2009-01-27 Thread Mik Cheez
Don't over think this, guys. Again, the point of having a WIKI is to allow for customization. A landing page for Asterisk documentation within voip-info.org is all you need, not a whole new source of documentation. Jai Rangi wrote: ** I understand. As someone else already