Re: [asterisk-users] Re: Newbie Questions - Grandstorm phones?
Am Mittwoch, den 20.12.2006, 14:42 -0500 schrieb Doug Crompton: Anthony, Ok I understand. The 011 is unique though and I guess the problem is the length of the remaining digits. This could vary based on country?? and I suspect there is no unique rule that could be applied??? I have not studied this but is there any uniqness to the remaining digits? Doug There are no general rules for international number lengths. In certain countries, the numbering plan is very specific about how long a telephone number is - the US is the best example, where ANY phone number is area(3)+line(7). AFAIK Luxembourg and a few countries with a small number of telephones have rules as well. On the contrary, in Germany there are area codes between 2 digits (only a few, Hamburg, Berlin, Munich, Frankfurt) and 5 digits, and inside those cities numbering varies wildly. Old lines (registered pre-1960 or so) sometimes still have 3-digit numbers, especially in the countryside where there is no urge to assign new phone numbers. A friend of mine has the numbers 328 and 1653990 on the same ISDN line. And then, there are DIDs with varying number length. A company I worked for years ago had 9559-X where X might be 0 for central, two-digit 1X for department calling groups, [234]XX for individual phones and 9XXX for individual fax numbers. No rules there, bad luck. BR Anselm ___ --Bandwidth and Colocation provided by Easynews.com -- asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [asterisk-users] Re: Newbie Questions - Grandstorm phones?
Yes thats the bottom line, its mostly the country code which can be 1-3 digits long. There is no rules based solution for this. Historicaly each country picked a number out of a hat except the US (which had to be number 1) because as we all know it's the centre of the universe. The former USSR had to go for 7 and Russia still kept this after it's break-up. All the other former USSR countries have settled on a 3 digit number but (as far a I know) can still be accessed by dialing 7. Henry L.Coleman CEO *VoIP-PBX* 1-866-415-5355 Toronto Ontario Canada Am Mittwoch, den 20.12.2006, 14:42 -0500 schrieb Doug Crompton: Anthony, Ok I understand. The 011 is unique though and I guess the problem is the length of the remaining digits. This could vary based on country?? and I suspect there is no unique rule that could be applied??? I have not studied this but is there any uniqness to the remaining digits? Doug There are no general rules for international number lengths. In certain countries, the numbering plan is very specific about how long a telephone number is - the US is the best example, where ANY phone number is area(3)+line(7). AFAIK Luxembourg and a few countries with a small number of telephones have rules as well. On the contrary, in Germany there are area codes between 2 digits (only a few, Hamburg, Berlin, Munich, Frankfurt) and 5 digits, and inside those cities numbering varies wildly. Old lines (registered pre-1960 or so) sometimes still have 3-digit numbers, especially in the countryside where there is no urge to assign new phone numbers. A friend of mine has the numbers 328 and 1653990 on the same ISDN line. And then, there are DIDs with varying number length. A company I worked for years ago had 9559-X where X might be 0 for central, two-digit 1X for department calling groups, [234]XX for individual phones and 9XXX for individual fax numbers. No rules there, bad luck. BR Anselm ___ --Bandwidth and Colocation provided by Easynews.com -- asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users ___ --Bandwidth and Colocation provided by Easynews.com -- asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [asterisk-users] Re: Newbie Questions - Grandstorm phones?
I have been using an approach such as this but am looking for something
else because of some limitations it has. The phone thinks it dialed,
and was connected to 011 (which it was)
As such, that will be stored in the phones dial history (redial if
nothing else).
I'm not even certain what I want is possible, which is why I'm asking
the list.
Thank you for your help once again though.
- Anthony Kepler
[EMAIL PROTECTED] | SIP/EMail
Doug Crompton wrote:
Well that is certainly an option but not all phones would have a send key
especially if you are using analog phones. I guess the # keys
functions in
that way on many of those.
I still like my wired phones to work like they use to. You dial a
number
and it executes the call immediately.
Ok I came up with one that I think would work, maybe needs some
refinement
[out-international]
exten = _011,1,goto(process-international,s,1)
[process-international]
exten = s,1,read(number)
exten = s,2,Dial(SIP/[EMAIL PROTECTED],120,T)
exten = s,3,Macro(failann,${DIALSTATUS})
This accepts the 011 prefix and then any number of following digits.
Terminator is timeout period OR # key to send. Change obviously for your
provider.
The read command has many options including saying a file. You could for
instance hear Country Code after dialing 011. This would clue you into
the fact that you were dialing and international call. There are also
digit limits and timeouts that can be set.
So if you use early dial this would be the only rule that would require a
wait or # key to send. I could certainly live with that.
Can anyone supply some international test numbers??? Say in the UK or
Germany or wherever outside the US.
Doug
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Re: [asterisk-users] Re: Newbie Questions - Grandstorm phones?
Anthony,
Ok I understand. The 011 is unique though and I guess the problem is
the length of the remaining digits. This could vary based on country?? and
I suspect there is no unique rule that could be applied??? I have not
studied this but is there any uniqness to the remaining digits?
Doug
On Wed, 20 Dec 2006, Anthony Kepler wrote:
I have been using an approach such as this but am looking for something
else because of some limitations it has. The phone thinks it dialed,
and was connected to 011 (which it was)
As such, that will be stored in the phones dial history (redial if
nothing else).
I'm not even certain what I want is possible, which is why I'm asking
the list.
Thank you for your help once again though.
- Anthony Kepler
[EMAIL PROTECTED] | SIP/EMail
Doug Crompton wrote:
Well that is certainly an option but not all phones would have a send key
especially if you are using analog phones. I guess the # keys
functions in
that way on many of those.
I still like my wired phones to work like they use to. You dial a
number
and it executes the call immediately.
Ok I came up with one that I think would work, maybe needs some
refinement
[out-international]
exten = _011,1,goto(process-international,s,1)
[process-international]
exten = s,1,read(number)
exten = s,2,Dial(SIP/[EMAIL PROTECTED],120,T)
exten = s,3,Macro(failann,${DIALSTATUS})
This accepts the 011 prefix and then any number of following digits.
Terminator is timeout period OR # key to send. Change obviously for your
provider.
The read command has many options including saying a file. You could for
instance hear Country Code after dialing 011. This would clue you into
the fact that you were dialing and international call. There are also
digit limits and timeouts that can be set.
So if you use early dial this would be the only rule that would require a
wait or # key to send. I could certainly live with that.
Can anyone supply some international test numbers??? Say in the UK or
Germany or wherever outside the US.
Doug
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Re: [asterisk-users] Re: Newbie Questions - Grandstorm phones?
Do you, Gordon or Doug, happen to place international calls with
early-dial enabled? What kind of extensions.conf magic do you work to
allow this?
I have been trying for some time to get this to work. (My message from
2006.11.03 regarding this is quoted just below)
On 11/3/06, *Anthony Kepler* [EMAIL PROTECTED]
mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:I am trying to allow users to
place outgoing international calls from a
GXP-2000 with early dial enabled, connected to Asterisk 1.2.12.1
http://1.2.12.1
I have the following extension line:
exten = _011.,n,Dial(${TRUNK}/${EXTEN:${TRUNKMSD}})
When I attempt to place a call to a number in, for instance, Kenya, I
dial 011254...etc.
and I get this on the asterisk console:
Executing Dial(SIP/1001-081fb718, Zap/g1/0112) in new stack
-- Called g1/0112
It is attempting to dial out as soon as it receives a single digit to
represent the .
What I need is for it to wait a reasonable amount of time for additional
digits.
I have tried using set(TIMEOUT(digit)=5), and I see the following in the
asterisk console:
-- Executing Set(SIP/1001-081fb718, TIMEOUT(digit)=5) in new stack
-- Digit timeout set to 5
However, this is printed far less than 5 seconds before the dial out
attempt.
I assume there must be something relatively obvious I'm missing here...
if anyone can shed some light on this, it would be greatly appreciated.
Thank you,
- Anthony Kepler
[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] | SIP/Email
Gordon Henderson wrote:
On Sun, 5 Nov 2006, Doug Crompton wrote:
On the Budgetone 200 it is in the account tab settings of the web setup
and it does work here with asterisk and my dialplans..
On the GPX2000's it's via the web interface under each of the 4 Line
configuration tabs. (so you'd have to set it on each account you were
using on the phone)
Gordon
Doug
On Sun, 5 Nov 2006, [iso-8859-1] Jes?s M?ndez Rom?n wrote:
Hi,
Where can I find that option?
Thanks
Jesus
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[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] En nombre de Gordon
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Asunto: Re: [asterisk-users] Re: Newbie Questions - Grandstorm phones?
On Wed, 1 Nov 2006, Henry.L.Coleman wrote:
I came to the same conclusion.
There is one thing however that the GXP2000 needs in my opinion.
There is no dial plan avaiable in the configuration, this means that when
dialing a number there is a slight delay before it actually dials.
With a dial plan the dialed number is sent immeadiately the pattern is
match ed so it saves a second or two. Maybe they will fix this?
Set the Early Dial option - it's on a per-line basis, then as soon
as Asterisk gets a number it can dial, it will. No need to wait the 4
seconds or press the send button...
Gordon
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Re: [asterisk-users] Re: Newbie Questions - Grandstorm phones?
Early dial is a real nice feature BUT it requires that you carefully plan
and design your extensions. Each digit is accepeted by Asterisk and if a
match exists up to that point it will be accepted and dialed.
As an example, my internal extensions are 4xx and my internal special
extensions are 5xx. I chose those because they do not conflict with local
area codes or other first 3 digit sequences.
However if a call come in from, say, area code 512 (without the 1
prepended), and I have a local 512 extension, I would not be able to dial
that person back. It would instead go to the local 512, as this is
satisfied first.
Often callerID does not come in with the 1 before the area code. This is
what prompted me to put code in to append a 1 if none existed on the
incoming callerID. With the 1 appended there is no problem as 151 does not
match any local extension and I can use redial without problems.
Using 4 digit extensions would mostly eliminate this problem although you
still could not use 1xxx extensions.
Wildcard extension matches like X. or using the '.' anywhere in the
matches would not work.
You just have to use it and fix things as they come up. I think I have
most all cases trapped now!
Doug
On Tue, 19 Dec 2006, Anthony Kepler wrote:
Do you, Gordon or Doug, happen to place international calls with
early-dial enabled? What kind of extensions.conf magic do you work to
allow this?
I have been trying for some time to get this to work. (My message from
2006.11.03 regarding this is quoted just below)
On 11/3/06, *Anthony Kepler* [EMAIL PROTECTED]
mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:I am trying to allow users to
place outgoing international calls from a
GXP-2000 with early dial enabled, connected to Asterisk 1.2.12.1
http://1.2.12.1
I have the following extension line:
exten = _011.,n,Dial(${TRUNK}/${EXTEN:${TRUNKMSD}})
When I attempt to place a call to a number in, for instance, Kenya, I
dial 011254...etc.
and I get this on the asterisk console:
Executing Dial(SIP/1001-081fb718, Zap/g1/0112) in new stack
-- Called g1/0112
It is attempting to dial out as soon as it receives a single digit to
represent the .
What I need is for it to wait a reasonable amount of time for additional
digits.
I have tried using set(TIMEOUT(digit)=5), and I see the following in the
asterisk console:
-- Executing Set(SIP/1001-081fb718, TIMEOUT(digit)=5) in new stack
-- Digit timeout set to 5
However, this is printed far less than 5 seconds before the dial out
attempt.
I assume there must be something relatively obvious I'm missing here...
if anyone can shed some light on this, it would be greatly appreciated.
Thank you,
- Anthony Kepler
[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] | SIP/Email
Gordon Henderson wrote:
On Sun, 5 Nov 2006, Doug Crompton wrote:
On the Budgetone 200 it is in the account tab settings of the web setup
and it does work here with asterisk and my dialplans..
On the GPX2000's it's via the web interface under each of the 4 Line
configuration tabs. (so you'd have to set it on each account you were
using on the phone)
Gordon
Doug
On Sun, 5 Nov 2006, [iso-8859-1] Jes?s M?ndez Rom?n wrote:
Hi,
Where can I find that option?
Thanks
Jesus
-Mensaje original-
De: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] En nombre de Gordon
Henderson
Enviado el: Jueves, 02 de Noviembre de 2006 11:44 a.m.
Para: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Asterisk Users Mailing List -
Non-Commercial Discussion
Asunto: Re: [asterisk-users] Re: Newbie Questions - Grandstorm phones?
On Wed, 1 Nov 2006, Henry.L.Coleman wrote:
I came to the same conclusion.
There is one thing however that the GXP2000 needs in my opinion.
There is no dial plan avaiable in the configuration, this means that when
dialing a number there is a slight delay before it actually dials.
With a dial plan the dialed number is sent immeadiately the pattern is
match ed so it saves a second or two. Maybe they will fix this?
Set the Early Dial option - it's on a per-line basis, then as soon
as Asterisk gets a number it can dial, it will. No need to wait the 4
seconds or press the send button...
Gordon
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Re: [asterisk-users] Re: Newbie Questions - Grandstorm phones?
I understand how early dial works (484 response and all that jazz), I
also understand the NANP and how to keep my extensions from
overlapping... but thank you for the tips.
My question was: Do you place international calls from phones with
early-dial enabled?
If so, might you be willing to share the relevant portions of your dial
plan that are concerned with placing said international calls?
Thanks again,
- Anthony Kepler
[EMAIL PROTECTED] | SIP/Email
Doug Crompton wrote:
Early dial is a real nice feature BUT it requires that you carefully plan
and design your extensions. Each digit is accepeted by Asterisk and if a
match exists up to that point it will be accepted and dialed.
As an example, my internal extensions are 4xx and my internal special
extensions are 5xx. I chose those because they do not conflict with local
area codes or other first 3 digit sequences.
However if a call come in from, say, area code 512 (without the 1
prepended), and I have a local 512 extension, I would not be able to dial
that person back. It would instead go to the local 512, as this is
satisfied first.
Often callerID does not come in with the 1 before the area code. This is
what prompted me to put code in to append a 1 if none existed on the
incoming callerID. With the 1 appended there is no problem as 151 does not
match any local extension and I can use redial without problems.
Using 4 digit extensions would mostly eliminate this problem although you
still could not use 1xxx extensions.
Wildcard extension matches like X. or using the '.' anywhere in the
matches would not work.
You just have to use it and fix things as they come up. I think I have
most all cases trapped now!
Doug
On Tue, 19 Dec 2006, Anthony Kepler wrote:
Do you, Gordon or Doug, happen to place international calls with
early-dial enabled? What kind of extensions.conf magic do you work to
allow this?
I have been trying for some time to get this to work. (My message from
2006.11.03 regarding this is quoted just below)
On 11/3/06, *Anthony Kepler* [EMAIL PROTECTED]
mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:I am trying to allow users to
place outgoing international calls from a
GXP-2000 with early dial enabled, connected to Asterisk 1.2.12.1
http://1.2.12.1
I have the following extension line:
exten = _011.,n,Dial(${TRUNK}/${EXTEN:${TRUNKMSD}})
When I attempt to place a call to a number in, for instance, Kenya, I
dial 011254...etc.
and I get this on the asterisk console:
Executing Dial(SIP/1001-081fb718, Zap/g1/0112) in new stack
-- Called g1/0112
It is attempting to dial out as soon as it receives a single digit to
represent the .
What I need is for it to wait a reasonable amount of time for additional
digits.
I have tried using set(TIMEOUT(digit)=5), and I see the following in the
asterisk console:
-- Executing Set(SIP/1001-081fb718, TIMEOUT(digit)=5) in new stack
-- Digit timeout set to 5
However, this is printed far less than 5 seconds before the dial out
attempt.
I assume there must be something relatively obvious I'm missing here...
if anyone can shed some light on this, it would be greatly appreciated.
Thank you,
- Anthony Kepler
[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] | SIP/Email
Gordon Henderson wrote:
On Sun, 5 Nov 2006, Doug Crompton wrote:
On the Budgetone 200 it is in the account tab settings of the web setup
and it does work here with asterisk and my dialplans..
On the GPX2000's it's via the web interface under each of the 4 Line
configuration tabs. (so you'd have to set it on each account you were
using on the phone)
Gordon
Doug
On Sun, 5 Nov 2006, [iso-8859-1] Jes?s M?ndez Rom?n wrote:
Hi,
Where can I find that option?
Thanks
Jesus
-Mensaje original-
De: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] En nombre de Gordon
Henderson
Enviado el: Jueves, 02 de Noviembre de 2006 11:44 a.m.
Para: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Asterisk Users Mailing List -
Non-Commercial Discussion
Asunto: Re: [asterisk-users] Re: Newbie Questions - Grandstorm phones?
On Wed, 1 Nov 2006, Henry.L.Coleman wrote:
I came to the same conclusion.
There is one thing however that the GXP2000 needs in my opinion.
There is no dial plan avaiable in the configuration, this means that when
dialing a number there is a slight delay before it actually dials.
With a dial plan the dialed number is sent immeadiately the pattern is
match ed so it saves a second or two. Maybe they will fix this?
Set the Early Dial option - it's on a per-line basis, then as soon
as Asterisk gets a number it can dial, it will. No need to wait the 4
seconds or press the send button...
Gordon
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Re: [asterisk-users] Re: Newbie Questions - Grandstorm phones?
Sorry, I did not read the original message completely. The answer is no I do not make international calls. I do not know anyone in any other country to call! I do not have a rule for that but it should be easy to implement as 01x would not match anything I currently have for early dial. Would you always dial a 0 first for all international mumbers? Give me an example? Are you outside the US? If so give me your number and I will try it! Doug On Tue, 19 Dec 2006, Anthony Kepler wrote: I understand how early dial works (484 response and all that jazz), I also understand the NANP and how to keep my extensions from overlapping... but thank you for the tips. My question was: Do you place international calls from phones with early-dial enabled? If so, might you be willing to share the relevant portions of your dial plan that are concerned with placing said international calls? Thanks again, - Anthony Kepler [EMAIL PROTECTED] | SIP/Email ___ --Bandwidth and Colocation provided by Easynews.com -- asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [asterisk-users] Re: Newbie Questions - Grandstorm phones?
I am located on the west coast of the united states. In order to dial an international number from within the US, we must first dial the special international access code that tells the PSTN the following call is an international one - in the US that is 011, followed by the country code, and then the actual number for our destination within that country. (which would include whatever their concept of area code, prefix, and destination number are - which varies widely from country to country) If you're generally interested in this, then you might find the following reading interesting as well: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/North_American_Numbering_Plan and http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Area_code - Anthony Kepler [EMAIL PROTECTED] | SIP/Email Doug Crompton wrote: Sorry, I did not read the original message completely. The answer is no I do not make international calls. I do not know anyone in any other country to call! I do not have a rule for that but it should be easy to implement as 01x would not match anything I currently have for early dial. Would you always dial a 0 first for all international mumbers? Give me an example? Are you outside the US? If so give me your number and I will try it! Doug ___ --Bandwidth and Colocation provided by Easynews.com -- asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
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On Tue, 19 Dec 2006, Anthony Kepler wrote:
Do you, Gordon or Doug, happen to place international calls with early-dial
enabled? What kind of extensions.conf magic do you work to allow this?
I have been trying for some time to get this to work. (My message from
2006.11.03 regarding this is quoted just below)
Not me ( I'm in the UK FWIW).
I'm trying to get my users into thinking of the phones in the same terms
as they'd treat their mobiles - so get them to dial the full area code
starting with a zero (no 9 for outside line here, although I do support it
in addition to zero), and then pushing the send key after they have
entered the number... My reasoning for this is that it then mimics the way
they use their mobiles, (and who doesn't have a mobile these days?) and
you can dial the full number in the UK anyway without incuring any cost or
call routing issues (just time to dial the 4 or 5 digit prefix)
Gordon
On 11/3/06, *Anthony Kepler* [EMAIL PROTECTED]
mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:I am trying to allow users to
place outgoing international calls from a
GXP-2000 with early dial enabled, connected to Asterisk 1.2.12.1
http://1.2.12.1
I have the following extension line:
exten = _011.,n,Dial(${TRUNK}/${EXTEN:${TRUNKMSD}})
When I attempt to place a call to a number in, for instance, Kenya, I
dial 011254...etc.
and I get this on the asterisk console:
Executing Dial(SIP/1001-081fb718, Zap/g1/0112) in new stack
-- Called g1/0112
It is attempting to dial out as soon as it receives a single digit to
represent the .
What I need is for it to wait a reasonable amount of time for additional
digits.
I have tried using set(TIMEOUT(digit)=5), and I see the following in the
asterisk console:
-- Executing Set(SIP/1001-081fb718, TIMEOUT(digit)=5) in new stack
-- Digit timeout set to 5
However, this is printed far less than 5 seconds before the dial out
attempt.
I assume there must be something relatively obvious I'm missing here...
if anyone can shed some light on this, it would be greatly appreciated.
Thank you,
- Anthony Kepler
[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] | SIP/Email
Gordon Henderson wrote:
On Sun, 5 Nov 2006, Doug Crompton wrote:
On the Budgetone 200 it is in the account tab settings of the web setup
and it does work here with asterisk and my dialplans..
On the GPX2000's it's via the web interface under each of the 4 Line
configuration tabs. (so you'd have to set it on each account you were
using on the phone)
Gordon
Doug
On Sun, 5 Nov 2006, [iso-8859-1] Jes?s M?ndez Rom?n wrote:
Hi,
Where can I find that option?
Thanks
Jesus
-Mensaje original-
De: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] En nombre de Gordon
Henderson
Enviado el: Jueves, 02 de Noviembre de 2006 11:44 a.m.
Para: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Asterisk Users Mailing List -
Non-Commercial Discussion
Asunto: Re: [asterisk-users] Re: Newbie Questions - Grandstorm phones?
On Wed, 1 Nov 2006, Henry.L.Coleman wrote:
I came to the same conclusion.
There is one thing however that the GXP2000 needs in my opinion.
There is no dial plan avaiable in the configuration, this means that
when
dialing a number there is a slight delay before it actually dials.
With a dial plan the dialed number is sent immeadiately the pattern is
match ed so it saves a second or two. Maybe they will fix this?
Set the Early Dial option - it's on a per-line basis, then as soon
as Asterisk gets a number it can dial, it will. No need to wait the 4
seconds or press the send button...
Gordon
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Re: [asterisk-users] Re: Newbie Questions - Grandstorm phones?
Well that is certainly an option but not all phones would have a send key
especially if you are using analog phones. I guess the # keys functions in
that way on many of those.
I still like my wired phones to work like they use to. You dial a number
and it executes the call immediately.
Ok I came up with one that I think would work, maybe needs some
refinement
[out-international]
exten = _011,1,goto(process-international,s,1)
[process-international]
exten = s,1,read(number)
exten = s,2,Dial(SIP/[EMAIL PROTECTED],120,T)
exten = s,3,Macro(failann,${DIALSTATUS})
This accepts the 011 prefix and then any number of following digits.
Terminator is timeout period OR # key to send. Change obviously for your
provider.
The read command has many options including saying a file. You could for
instance hear Country Code after dialing 011. This would clue you into
the fact that you were dialing and international call. There are also
digit limits and timeouts that can be set.
So if you use early dial this would be the only rule that would require a
wait or # key to send. I could certainly live with that.
Can anyone supply some international test numbers??? Say in the UK or
Germany or wherever outside the US.
Doug
On Tue, 19 Dec 2006, Gordon Henderson wrote:
On Tue, 19 Dec 2006, Anthony Kepler wrote:
Do you, Gordon or Doug, happen to place international calls with early-dial
enabled? What kind of extensions.conf magic do you work to allow this?
I have been trying for some time to get this to work. (My message from
2006.11.03 regarding this is quoted just below)
Not me ( I'm in the UK FWIW).
I'm trying to get my users into thinking of the phones in the same terms
as they'd treat their mobiles - so get them to dial the full area code
starting with a zero (no 9 for outside line here, although I do support it
in addition to zero), and then pushing the send key after they have
entered the number... My reasoning for this is that it then mimics the way
they use their mobiles, (and who doesn't have a mobile these days?) and
you can dial the full number in the UK anyway without incuring any cost or
call routing issues (just time to dial the 4 or 5 digit prefix)
Gordon
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RE: [asterisk-users] Re: Newbie Questions - Grandstorm phones?
On Sun, 5 Nov 2006, Doug Crompton wrote: On the Budgetone 200 it is in the account tab settings of the web setup and it does work here with asterisk and my dialplans.. On the GPX2000's it's via the web interface under each of the 4 Line configuration tabs. (so you'd have to set it on each account you were using on the phone) Gordon Doug On Sun, 5 Nov 2006, [iso-8859-1] Jes?s M?ndez Rom?n wrote: Hi, Where can I find that option? Thanks Jesus -Mensaje original- De: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] En nombre de Gordon Henderson Enviado el: Jueves, 02 de Noviembre de 2006 11:44 a.m. Para: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Asterisk Users Mailing List - Non-Commercial Discussion Asunto: Re: [asterisk-users] Re: Newbie Questions - Grandstorm phones? On Wed, 1 Nov 2006, Henry.L.Coleman wrote: I came to the same conclusion. There is one thing however that the GXP2000 needs in my opinion. There is no dial plan avaiable in the configuration, this means that when dialing a number there is a slight delay before it actually dials. With a dial plan the dialed number is sent immeadiately the pattern is match ed so it saves a second or two. Maybe they will fix this? Set the Early Dial option - it's on a per-line basis, then as soon as Asterisk gets a number it can dial, it will. No need to wait the 4 seconds or press the send button... Gordon ___ --Bandwidth and Colocation provided by Easynews.com -- asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users ___ --Bandwidth and Colocation provided by Easynews.com -- asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
RE: [asterisk-users] Re: Newbie Questions - Grandstorm phones?
Hi, Where can I find that option? Thanks Jesus -Mensaje original- De: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] En nombre de Gordon Henderson Enviado el: Jueves, 02 de Noviembre de 2006 11:44 a.m. Para: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Asterisk Users Mailing List - Non-Commercial Discussion Asunto: Re: [asterisk-users] Re: Newbie Questions - Grandstorm phones? On Wed, 1 Nov 2006, Henry.L.Coleman wrote: I came to the same conclusion. There is one thing however that the GXP2000 needs in my opinion. There is no dial plan avaiable in the configuration, this means that when dialing a number there is a slight delay before it actually dials. With a dial plan the dialed number is sent immeadiately the pattern is match ed so it saves a second or two. Maybe they will fix this? Set the Early Dial option - it's on a per-line basis, then as soon as Asterisk gets a number it can dial, it will. No need to wait the 4 seconds or press the send button... Gordon ___ --Bandwidth and Colocation provided by Easynews.com -- asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.409 / Virus Database: 268.13.23/513 - Release Date: 02/11/2006 ___ --Bandwidth and Colocation provided by Easynews.com -- asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
RE: [asterisk-users] Re: Newbie Questions - Grandstorm phones?
On the Budgetone 200 it is in the account tab settings of the web setup and it does work here with asterisk and my dialplans.. Doug On Sun, 5 Nov 2006, [iso-8859-1] Jes?s M?ndez Rom?n wrote: Hi, Where can I find that option? Thanks Jesus -Mensaje original- De: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] En nombre de Gordon Henderson Enviado el: Jueves, 02 de Noviembre de 2006 11:44 a.m. Para: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Asterisk Users Mailing List - Non-Commercial Discussion Asunto: Re: [asterisk-users] Re: Newbie Questions - Grandstorm phones? On Wed, 1 Nov 2006, Henry.L.Coleman wrote: I came to the same conclusion. There is one thing however that the GXP2000 needs in my opinion. There is no dial plan avaiable in the configuration, this means that when dialing a number there is a slight delay before it actually dials. With a dial plan the dialed number is sent immeadiately the pattern is match ed so it saves a second or two. Maybe they will fix this? Set the Early Dial option - it's on a per-line basis, then as soon as Asterisk gets a number it can dial, it will. No need to wait the 4 seconds or press the send button... Gordon ___ --Bandwidth and Colocation provided by Easynews.com -- asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [asterisk-users] Re: Newbie Questions - Grandstorm phones?
On Wed, 1 Nov 2006, Henry.L.Coleman wrote: I came to the same conclusion. There is one thing however that the GXP2000 needs in my opinion. There is no dial plan avaiable in the configuration, this means that when dialing a number there is a slight delay before it actually dials. With a dial plan the dialed number is sent immeadiately the pattern is match ed so it saves a second or two. Maybe they will fix this? Set the Early Dial option - it's on a per-line basis, then as soon as Asterisk gets a number it can dial, it will. No need to wait the 4 seconds or press the send button... Gordon ___ --Bandwidth and Colocation provided by Easynews.com -- asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
RE: [asterisk-users] Re: Newbie Questions - Grandstorm phones?
I am agree with you. Do you use the latest version of firmware? -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Henry.L.Coleman Sent: Wednesday, November 01, 2006 7:09 PM To: asterisk-users@lists.digium.com Subject: Re: [asterisk-users] Re: Newbie Questions - Grandstorm phones? I came to the same conclusion. There is one thing however that the GXP2000 needs in my opinion. There is no dial plan avaiable in the configuration, this means that when dialing a number there is a slight delay before it actually dials. With a dial plan the dialed number is sent immeadiately the pattern is match ed so it saves a second or two. Maybe they will fix this? Henry L.Coleman CEO *VoIP-PBX* 1-866-415-5355 Toronto Ontario Canada After doing some research on the Internet and studying all the major IP phones, I have came to a conclusion that Grandstream GXP-2000 has the most features of all the phones for the least price of all. I don't know how they are managing to manufacture their product for such a cheap price, but they're doing it well for sure. Each and every other phone has something missing in it, but Grandstream GXP-2000 has every necessary thing in it. Even if they sell their product at 2x the price, it'll still be a fair price. So Grandstream GXP-2000 is the best phone to go with. I only wish if they could make its face look a litter more like Polycom, that would be better. Aastra 9133i is the second best option. Good price for the features they have. A lot of lines, PoE, dual ethernet etc. Looks very professional, same design as those of existing non-VoIP office phones, which people are used to look at as office phones. This is becasue Aastra once used to make phones for Nortel, so they have the same designs for their IP phones as well. It gives more professional image. The only drawback could be smaller LCD. They could make it a little bigger. I am testing it these days. Third best option is Linksys 942. They have two lines, you pay extra for the adapter and pay extra for other two lines. This all make them more than twice expensive than GXP-2000. But then they come at the same level with GXP-2000. Good thing is the big display. I am also testing this phone these days. Polycom are best looking, expensive, but configuration a little difficult, and don't have backlit LCDs? And also they have limited lines. Mostly no PoE. Snom are good, ok looking, expensive and limited lines, either no PoE or no backlit LCD. But very configurable. And an important advice: Don't buy a phone which doesn't have backlit and non-tiltable LCD, or you'll regret later. ___ --Bandwidth and Colocation provided by Easynews.com -- asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users ___ --Bandwidth and Colocation provided by Easynews.com -- asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
RE: [asterisk-users] Re: Newbie Questions - Grandstorm phones?
I am at ver 1.1.1.9 and I will update to 1.1.1.14 pretty soon. Strangly enough I have just picked up an Aastra 480i looks real nice! Henry L.Coleman CEO *VoIP-PBX* 1-866-415-5355 Toronto Ontario Canada I am agree with you. Do you use the latest version of firmware? -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Henry.L.Coleman Sent: Wednesday, November 01, 2006 7:09 PM To: asterisk-users@lists.digium.com Subject: Re: [asterisk-users] Re: Newbie Questions - Grandstorm phones? I came to the same conclusion. There is one thing however that the GXP2000 needs in my opinion. There is no dial plan avaiable in the configuration, this means that when dialing a number there is a slight delay before it actually dials. With a dial plan the dialed number is sent immeadiately the pattern is match ed so it saves a second or two. Maybe they will fix this? Henry L.Coleman CEO *VoIP-PBX* 1-866-415-5355 Toronto Ontario Canada After doing some research on the Internet and studying all the major IP phones, I have came to a conclusion that Grandstream GXP-2000 has the most features of all the phones for the least price of all. I don't know how they are managing to manufacture their product for such a cheap price, but they're doing it well for sure. Each and every other phone has something missing in it, but Grandstream GXP-2000 has every necessary thing in it. Even if they sell their product at 2x the price, it'll still be a fair price. So Grandstream GXP-2000 is the best phone to go with. I only wish if they could make its face look a litter more like Polycom, that would be better. Aastra 9133i is the second best option. Good price for the features they have. A lot of lines, PoE, dual ethernet etc. Looks very professional, same design as those of existing non-VoIP office phones, which people are used to look at as office phones. This is becasue Aastra once used to make phones for Nortel, so they have the same designs for their IP phones as well. It gives more professional image. The only drawback could be smaller LCD. They could make it a little bigger. I am testing it these days. Third best option is Linksys 942. They have two lines, you pay extra for the adapter and pay extra for other two lines. This all make them more than twice expensive than GXP-2000. But then they come at the same level with GXP-2000. Good thing is the big display. I am also testing this phone these days. Polycom are best looking, expensive, but configuration a little difficult, and don't have backlit LCDs? And also they have limited lines. Mostly no PoE. Snom are good, ok looking, expensive and limited lines, either no PoE or no backlit LCD. But very configurable. And an important advice: Don't buy a phone which doesn't have backlit and non-tiltable LCD, or you'll regret later. ___ --Bandwidth and Colocation provided by Easynews.com -- asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users ___ --Bandwidth and Colocation provided by Easynews.com -- asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
RE: [asterisk-users] Re: Newbie Questions - Grandstorm phones?
Thanks everyone for the input. After pricing everything we need out, it's not worth trying to get our old system to work, so I've pitched ditching everything and starting over. I'm very excited and hoping they'll go for it. Regardless, I'm going to throw a box together for my house, we have no home phone (just cell phones) so this'll be a great way of testing. All that being said, any comments on the Grandstorm phones? I've ordered the GS-101 for my house, and I'm seeing the GXP-2000 is VERY inexpensive for a business solution. I see it has room for 4 lines with 7 programmable buttons. I assume I can put a few more lines on the programmable buttons (we have 6 lines at our main location). One last newbie question, I assume if I have an Asterisk PBX at 2 locations in different states, I'll be able to transfer a call that comes into location1 to a user at location2. Thanks again for the quick responses help. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Andrew Latham Sent: Wednesday, November 01, 2006 5:51 AM To: Asterisk Users Mailing List - Non-Commercial Discussion Subject: Re: [asterisk-users] Re: Newbie Questions Ken If these are older comdials then they are just analog phones with extra signaling. The extra signaling could be on the main twisted pair (likely) or on the next twisted pair as data (9600 baud modem) like some of the nortels do. Always remember that it would cost the companies a ton to make every system totally closed That being said, the entry price for IP phones or ADSI phones can be much lower than you think. Find a good consultant in your area, get an ATA, a TDM card, and an Aastra/SNOM/Polycom/Granstream to play with. You can order the Aastra phones from your local electrical supply company (the place with a long counter and lots of electricians drinking coffee ordering their parts.). Andrew On 10/31/06, Ken Williams [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I knew I should've waited til tomorrow to send the e-mail so I could have a nights thought on the subject. That being said, scratch the FXO/FXS thing, what I really picture is someway of passing proprietary information through the Asterisk PBX's on both ends to get remote locations on our phone system through a VOIP connection. That is: Comdial Phone - Comdial System - Asterisk PBX (FXO?) - Internet - Asterisk PBX (FXO?) - Comdial Phone I realize this isn't likely an option, but before I try pitching new hardware for everything, thought I'd see if a cheaters option was available. Thanks for any help. ___ --Bandwidth and Colocation provided by Easynews.com -- asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users -- --- Andrew Latham - AKA: LATHAMA (lay-th-ham-eh) [EMAIL PROTECTED] - [EMAIL PROTECTED] If any of the above are down we have bigger problems than my email! Hind sight is most always 20/20 or better. --- ___ --Bandwidth and Colocation provided by Easynews.com -- asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users ___ --Bandwidth and Colocation provided by Easynews.com -- asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
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Ken - take a look at using IAX protocol to route calls between your Asterisk boxes. Cory Andrews -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Ken Williams Sent: Wednesday, November 01, 2006 10:58 AM To: Asterisk Users Mailing List - Non-Commercial Discussion Subject: [SPAM HEADER] - RE: [asterisk-users] Re: Newbie Questions - Grandstorm phones? - Email found in subject Thanks everyone for the input. After pricing everything we need out, it's not worth trying to get our old system to work, so I've pitched ditching everything and starting over. I'm very excited and hoping they'll go for it. Regardless, I'm going to throw a box together for my house, we have no home phone (just cell phones) so this'll be a great way of testing. All that being said, any comments on the Grandstorm phones? I've ordered the GS-101 for my house, and I'm seeing the GXP-2000 is VERY inexpensive for a business solution. I see it has room for 4 lines with 7 programmable buttons. I assume I can put a few more lines on the programmable buttons (we have 6 lines at our main location). One last newbie question, I assume if I have an Asterisk PBX at 2 locations in different states, I'll be able to transfer a call that comes into location1 to a user at location2. Thanks again for the quick responses help. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Andrew Latham Sent: Wednesday, November 01, 2006 5:51 AM To: Asterisk Users Mailing List - Non-Commercial Discussion Subject: Re: [asterisk-users] Re: Newbie Questions Ken If these are older comdials then they are just analog phones with extra signaling. The extra signaling could be on the main twisted pair (likely) or on the next twisted pair as data (9600 baud modem) like some of the nortels do. Always remember that it would cost the companies a ton to make every system totally closed That being said, the entry price for IP phones or ADSI phones can be much lower than you think. Find a good consultant in your area, get an ATA, a TDM card, and an Aastra/SNOM/Polycom/Granstream to play with. You can order the Aastra phones from your local electrical supply company (the place with a long counter and lots of electricians drinking coffee ordering their parts.). Andrew On 10/31/06, Ken Williams [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I knew I should've waited til tomorrow to send the e-mail so I could have a nights thought on the subject. That being said, scratch the FXO/FXS thing, what I really picture is someway of passing proprietary information through the Asterisk PBX's on both ends to get remote locations on our phone system through a VOIP connection. That is: Comdial Phone - Comdial System - Asterisk PBX (FXO?) - Internet - Asterisk PBX (FXO?) - Comdial Phone I realize this isn't likely an option, but before I try pitching new hardware for everything, thought I'd see if a cheaters option was available. Thanks for any help. ___ --Bandwidth and Colocation provided by Easynews.com -- asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users -- --- Andrew Latham - AKA: LATHAMA (lay-th-ham-eh) [EMAIL PROTECTED] - [EMAIL PROTECTED] If any of the above are down we have bigger problems than my email! Hind sight is most always 20/20 or better. --- ___ --Bandwidth and Colocation provided by Easynews.com -- asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users ___ --Bandwidth and Colocation provided by Easynews.com -- asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users ___ --Bandwidth and Colocation provided by Easynews.com -- asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [asterisk-users] Re: Newbie Questions - Grandstorm phones?
I tend to stay away from the Grandstream phones for business use because they simply break to easily. I would suggest using Snom phones like the Snom 300 for around $99.2 Asterisk boxes in different locations? Sure, you can do that and its quite easily. On 11/1/06, Ken Williams [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Thanks everyone for the input.After pricing everything we need out,it's not worth trying to get our old system to work, so I've pitchedditching everything and starting over.I'm very excited and hopingthey'll go for it. Regardless, I'm going to throw a box together for my house, we have nohome phone (just cell phones) so this'll be a great way of testing.All that being said, any comments on the Grandstorm phones?I've ordered the GS-101 for my house, and I'm seeing the GXP-2000 is VERYinexpensive for a business solution.I see it has room for 4 lines with7 programmable buttons.I assume I can put a few more lines on the programmable buttons (we have 6 lines at our main location).One last newbie question, I assume if I have an Asterisk PBX at 2locations in different states, I'll be able to transfer a call thatcomes into location1 to a user at location2. Thanks again for the quick responses help.-Original Message-From: [EMAIL PROTECTED][mailto: [EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of AndrewLathamSent: Wednesday, November 01, 2006 5:51 AMTo: Asterisk Users Mailing List - Non-Commercial DiscussionSubject: Re: [asterisk-users] Re: Newbie Questions KenIf these are older comdials then they are just analog phones with extrasignaling.The extra signaling could be on the main twisted pair(likely) or on the next twisted pair as data (9600 baud modem) like some of the nortels do.Always remember that it would cost the companies aton to make every system totally closedThat being said, the entry price for IP phones or ADSI phones can bemuch lower than you think.Find a good consultant in your area, get an ATA, a TDM card, and an Aastra/SNOM/Polycom/Granstream to play with.You can order the Aastra phones from your local electrical supplycompany (the place with a long counter and lots of electricians drinking coffee ordering their parts.).AndrewOn 10/31/06, Ken Williams [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I knew I should've waited til tomorrow to send the e-mail so I could have a nights thought on the subject. That being said, scratch the FXO/FXS thing, what I really picture is someway of passing proprietary information through the Asterisk PBX's on both ends to get remote locations on our phone system through a VOIP connection.That is: Comdial Phone - Comdial System - Asterisk PBX (FXO?) - Internet - Asterisk PBX (FXO?) - Comdial Phone I realize this isn't likely an option, but before I try pitching new hardware for everything, thought I'd see if a cheaters option wasavailable. Thanks for any help. ___ --Bandwidth and Colocation provided by Easynews.com -- asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users-Andrew Latham - AKA: LATHAMA (lay-th-ham-eh) [EMAIL PROTECTED] - [EMAIL PROTECTED] If any of the above are down we have bigger problemsthan my email!Hind sight is most always 20/20 or better.---___--Bandwidth and Colocation provided by Easynews.com --asterisk-users mailing listTo UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users ___--Bandwidth and Colocation provided by Easynews.com --asterisk-users mailing listTo UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users-- Tom VileBaldwin Technology Solutions, Inc Consulting - Web Design - VoIP Telephonywww.baldwintechsolutions.comPhone: 518-631-2855 x205Fax: 518-631-2856 ___ --Bandwidth and Colocation provided by Easynews.com -- asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [asterisk-users] Re: Newbie Questions - Grandstorm phones?
Ken, Also stay away from Swissvoice phones I have found several ways to do the second thing. http://www.voip-info.org/wiki/view/Asterisk+Connect+2+servers It works great. Jason Tom Vile wrote: I tend to stay away from the Grandstream phones for business use because they simply break to easily. I would suggest using Snom phones like the Snom 300 for around $99. 2 Asterisk boxes in different locations? Sure, you can do that and its quite easily. On 11/1/06, Ken Williams [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Thanks everyone for the input.After pricing everything we need out, it's not worth trying to get our old system to work, so I've pitched ditching everything and starting over.I'm very excited and hoping they'll go for it. Regardless, I'm going to throw a box together for my house, we have no home phone (just cell phones) so this'll be a great way of testing. All that being said, any comments on the Grandstorm phones?I've ordered the GS-101 for my house, and I'm seeing the GXP-2000 is VERY inexpensive for a business solution.I see it has room for 4 lines with 7 programmable buttons.I assume I can put a few more lines on the programmable buttons (we have 6 lines at our main location). One last newbie question, I assume if I have an Asterisk PBX at 2 locations in different states, I'll be able to transfer a call that comes into location1 to a user at location2. Thanks again for the quick responses help. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto: [EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Andrew Latham Sent: Wednesday, November 01, 2006 5:51 AM To: Asterisk Users Mailing List - Non-Commercial Discussion Subject: Re: [asterisk-users] Re: Newbie Questions Ken If these are older comdials then they are just analog phones with "extra signaling".The extra signaling could be on the main twisted pair (likely) or on the next twisted pair as data (9600 baud modem) like some of the nortels do.Always remember that it would cost the companies a ton to make every system totally closed That being said, the entry price for IP phones or ADSI phones can be much lower than you think.Find a good consultant in your area, get an ATA, a TDM card, and an Aastra/SNOM/Polycom/Granstream to play with. You can order the Aastra phones from your local electrical supply company (the place with a long counter and lots of electricians drinking coffee ordering their parts.). Andrew On 10/31/06, Ken Williams [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I knew I should've waited til tomorrow to send the e-mail so I could have a nights thought on the subject. That being said, scratch the FXO/FXS thing, what I really picture is someway of passing proprietary information through the Asterisk PBX's on both ends to get remote locations on our phone system through a VOIP connection.That is: Comdial Phone - Comdial System - Asterisk PBX (FXO?) - Internet - Asterisk PBX (FXO?) - Comdial Phone I realize this isn't likely an option, but before I try pitching new hardware for everything, thought I'd see if a cheaters option was available. Thanks for any help. ___ --Bandwidth and Colocation provided by Easynews.com -- asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users -- --- Andrew Latham - AKA: LATHAMA (lay-th-ham-eh) [EMAIL PROTECTED] - [EMAIL PROTECTED] If any of the above are down we have bigger problems than my email! Hind sight is most always 20/20 or better. --- ___ --Bandwidth and Colocation provided by Easynews.com -- asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users ___ --Bandwidth and Colocation provided by Easynews.com -- asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users -- Tom Vile Baldwin Technology Solutions, Inc Consulting - Web Design - VoIP Telephony www.baldwintechsolutions.com Phone: 518-631-2855 x205 Fax: 518-631-2856 ___ --Bandwidth and Colocation provided by Easynews.com -- asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users ___ --Bandwidth and Colocation provided by Easynews.com -- asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
RE: [asterisk-users] Re: Newbie Questions - Grandstorm phones?
Hi Andrew, I can highly recommend using the Granstream GXP 2000. Upgrade the firmware to ver. 1.1.1.14 and you won't have any problems. The 4 line buttons are not actual lines they are calls queued up on an extension so you can have as many incoming lines as you want. The first call comes in on line 1 second simulatanoius call on line 2 etc. The main features that make this a great deal is POE if you want it and dual ports (so you can plug a computer into the back of the phone, plug the phone into the LAN and away you go!) The 7 buttons down the side can be programmed as DSS/BLF, Speed dial buttons or just to show if an extension is registered which is very useful if you use softphones. Henry L.Coleman CEO *VoIP-PBX* 1-866-415-5355 Toronto Ontario Canada Thanks everyone for the input. After pricing everything we need out, it's not worth trying to get our old system to work, so I've pitched ditching everything and starting over. I'm very excited and hoping they'll go for it. Regardless, I'm going to throw a box together for my house, we have no home phone (just cell phones) so this'll be a great way of testing. All that being said, any comments on the Grandstorm phones? I've ordered the GS-101 for my house, and I'm seeing the GXP-2000 is VERY inexpensive for a business solution. I see it has room for 4 lines with 7 programmable buttons. I assume I can put a few more lines on the programmable buttons (we have 6 lines at our main location). One last newbie question, I assume if I have an Asterisk PBX at 2 locations in different states, I'll be able to transfer a call that comes into location1 to a user at location2. Thanks again for the quick responses help. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Andrew Latham Sent: Wednesday, November 01, 2006 5:51 AM To: Asterisk Users Mailing List - Non-Commercial Discussion Subject: Re: [asterisk-users] Re: Newbie Questions Ken If these are older comdials then they are just analog phones with extra signaling. The extra signaling could be on the main twisted pair (likely) or on the next twisted pair as data (9600 baud modem) like some of the nortels do. Always remember that it would cost the companies a ton to make every system totally closed That being said, the entry price for IP phones or ADSI phones can be much lower than you think. Find a good consultant in your area, get an ATA, a TDM card, and an Aastra/SNOM/Polycom/Granstream to play with. You can order the Aastra phones from your local electrical supply company (the place with a long counter and lots of electricians drinking coffee ordering their parts.). Andrew On 10/31/06, Ken Williams [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I knew I should've waited til tomorrow to send the e-mail so I could have a nights thought on the subject. That being said, scratch the FXO/FXS thing, what I really picture is someway of passing proprietary information through the Asterisk PBX's on both ends to get remote locations on our phone system through a VOIP connection. That is: Comdial Phone - Comdial System - Asterisk PBX (FXO?) - Internet - Asterisk PBX (FXO?) - Comdial Phone I realize this isn't likely an option, but before I try pitching new hardware for everything, thought I'd see if a cheaters option was available. Thanks for any help. ___ --Bandwidth and Colocation provided by Easynews.com -- asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users -- --- Andrew Latham - AKA: LATHAMA (lay-th-ham-eh) [EMAIL PROTECTED] - [EMAIL PROTECTED] If any of the above are down we have bigger problems than my email! Hind sight is most always 20/20 or better. --- ___ --Bandwidth and Colocation provided by Easynews.com -- asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users ___ --Bandwidth and Colocation provided by Easynews.com -- asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users ___ --Bandwidth and Colocation provided by Easynews.com -- asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [asterisk-users] Re: Newbie Questions - Grandstorm phones?
After doing some research on the Internet and studying all the major IP phones, I have came to a conclusion that Grandstream GXP-2000 has the most features of all the phones for the least price of all. I don't know how they are managing to manufacture their product for such a cheap price, but they're doing it well for sure. Each and every other phone has something missing in it, but Grandstream GXP-2000 has every necessary thing in it. Even if they sell their product at 2x the price, it'll still be a fair price. So Grandstream GXP-2000 is the best phone to go with.I only wish if they could make its face look a litter more like Polycom, that would be better. Aastra 9133i is the second best option. Good price for the features they have. A lot of lines, PoE, dual ethernet etc. Looks very professional, same design as those of existing non-VoIP office phones, which people are used to look at as office phones. This is becasue Aastra once used to make phones for Nortel, so they have the same designs for their IP phones as well. It gives more professional image. The only drawback could be smaller LCD. They could make it a little bigger. I am testing it these days. Third best option is Linksys 942. They have two lines, you pay extra for the adapter and pay extra for other two lines. This all make them more than twice expensive than GXP-2000. But then they come at the same level with GXP-2000. Good thing is the big display. I am also testing this phone these days. Polycom are best looking, expensive, but configuration a little difficult, and don't have backlit LCDs? And also they have limited lines. Mostly no PoE. Snom are good, ok looking, expensive and limited lines, either no PoE or no backlit LCD. But very configurable. And an important advice: Don't buy a phone which doesn't have backlit and non-tiltable LCD, or you'll regret later. ___ --Bandwidth and Colocation provided by Easynews.com -- asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [asterisk-users] Re: Newbie Questions - Grandstorm phones?
I came to the same conclusion. There is one thing however that the GXP2000 needs in my opinion. There is no dial plan avaiable in the configuration, this means that when dialing a number there is a slight delay before it actually dials. With a dial plan the dialed number is sent immeadiately the pattern is match ed so it saves a second or two. Maybe they will fix this? Henry L.Coleman CEO *VoIP-PBX* 1-866-415-5355 Toronto Ontario Canada After doing some research on the Internet and studying all the major IP phones, I have came to a conclusion that Grandstream GXP-2000 has the most features of all the phones for the least price of all. I don't know how they are managing to manufacture their product for such a cheap price, but they're doing it well for sure. Each and every other phone has something missing in it, but Grandstream GXP-2000 has every necessary thing in it. Even if they sell their product at 2x the price, it'll still be a fair price. So Grandstream GXP-2000 is the best phone to go with. I only wish if they could make its face look a litter more like Polycom, that would be better. Aastra 9133i is the second best option. Good price for the features they have. A lot of lines, PoE, dual ethernet etc. Looks very professional, same design as those of existing non-VoIP office phones, which people are used to look at as office phones. This is becasue Aastra once used to make phones for Nortel, so they have the same designs for their IP phones as well. It gives more professional image. The only drawback could be smaller LCD. They could make it a little bigger. I am testing it these days. Third best option is Linksys 942. They have two lines, you pay extra for the adapter and pay extra for other two lines. This all make them more than twice expensive than GXP-2000. But then they come at the same level with GXP-2000. Good thing is the big display. I am also testing this phone these days. Polycom are best looking, expensive, but configuration a little difficult, and don't have backlit LCDs? And also they have limited lines. Mostly no PoE. Snom are good, ok looking, expensive and limited lines, either no PoE or no backlit LCD. But very configurable. And an important advice: Don't buy a phone which doesn't have backlit and non-tiltable LCD, or you'll regret later. ___ --Bandwidth and Colocation provided by Easynews.com -- asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
