Re: RE: [asterisk-users] SIP v IAX2

2006-11-05 Thread Stephen Davies
On 26/10/06, Guillermo Salas M. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: What about the bandwidth used for both protocols? Is IAX using less or more bandwidth than SIP? I'll give you an actual measured result. A trunked IAX2 link, carrying 30 simultaneous calls using variable-bit-rate Speex - we saw 7

Re: [asterisk-users] SIP v IAX2

2006-11-02 Thread Henry.L.Coleman
Hi Jon, Well Skype was one of the reasons I started my Asterisk based business. I first came across a VoIP demo about 12 years ago in a teleco carrier in Altanta GA. At that time the technology was very primitive (most people still had dial up lines). Anyway, to cut a long story short it wasn't

Re: [asterisk-users] SIP v IAX2

2006-11-02 Thread Al Bochter
But how do you deal with the cable co blocking the ports you need for SIP? Best regards, Al Bochter Bochter Services http://www.BochterServices.com/?t=Email Are you outside of the US? Do you need to call US Toll Free Numbers? We can help you save money on calling US toll free numbers. Email

RE: [asterisk-users] SIP v IAX2

2006-11-02 Thread Dean Collins
Discussion Subject: Re: [asterisk-users] SIP v IAX2 But how do you deal with the cable co blocking the ports you need for SIP? Best regards,Al BochterBochter Serviceshttp://www.BochterServices.com/?t=EmailAre you outside of the US?Do you need to call US Toll Free Numbers?We can help you save

Re: [asterisk-users] SIP v IAX2

2006-11-02 Thread Al Bochter
Discussion Subject: Re: [asterisk-users] SIP v IAX2 But how do you deal with the cable co blocking the ports you need for SIP? Best regards, Al Bochter Bochter Services http://www.BochterServices.com/?t=Email Are you outside of the US? Do you need to call US Toll Free

RE: [asterisk-users] SIP v IAX2

2006-11-02 Thread Dean Collins
PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Al Bochter Sent: Thursday, 2 November 2006 9:55 AM To: Asterisk Users Mailing List - Non-Commercial Discussion Subject: Re: [asterisk-users] SIP v IAX2 VOIP is NOT telephone so the FCC don't have anything to say about VOIP. Well not right now. But in CAN there are cable co

Re: [asterisk-users] SIP v IAX2

2006-11-02 Thread maka
: Re: [asterisk-users] SIP v IAX2 VOIP is NOT telephone so the FCC don't have anything to say about VOIP. Well not right now. But in CAN there are cable co. that block the SIP ports and there is an up charge for them to unblock SIP. Ask Vonage.. Best regards, Al Bochter Bochter

Re: [asterisk-users] SIP v IAX2

2006-11-02 Thread Tim Panton
On 2 Nov 2006, at 14:54, Al Bochter wrote: VOIP is NOT telephone so the FCC don't have anything to say about VOIP. Well not right now. But in CAN there are cable co. that block the SIP ports and there is an up charge for them to unblock SIP. Ask Vonage.. Yet another advantage of

RE: [asterisk-users] SIP v IAX2

2006-11-02 Thread Dean Collins
] SIP v IAX2 Dean, I am going ways offtopic on this one, but I must say that although I am not from the US, I am finding the repetitive bad communications and VoIP legislation being voted in the US disturbing. Having in mind the CALEA Act (as an outrageous example of such bad legislation yet

Re: [asterisk-users] SIP v IAX2

2006-11-02 Thread maka
Mailing List - Non-Commercial Discussion Subject: Re: [asterisk-users] SIP v IAX2 Dean, I am going ways offtopic on this one, but I must say that although I am not from the US, I am finding the repetitive bad communications and VoIP legislation being voted in the US disturbing. Having

Re: [asterisk-users] SIP v IAX2

2006-11-01 Thread Jon Farmer
Henry.L.Coleman wrote: Its a bit like the VHS vs Beta war, both systems have their good and bad points In the end, sales/marketing perception will always win regardless of better technologies. That will be Skype then ;-) -- Jon Farmer Telford, Shropshire, UK

Re: [asterisk-users] SIP v IAX2

2006-10-29 Thread Tim Panton
I had a slide on this at my astricon presentation last week (about developing our IAX/java softphone) The slide basically said that I did IAX instead of SIP because the IAX draft RFC is ~100 pages whereas there are 100 RFCs on SIP/STUN/RTP - That's a lot more reading ! (Plus of course

[asterisk-users] SIP v IAX2

2006-10-26 Thread Al Bochter
Lets talk about SIP and IAX2 1. The good and bad of both 2. What is the better one and why 3. and any other information that maybe use full -- Best regards, Al Bochter Bochter Services (Voip PBX) Toll Free: 866-638-1254 EXT: 250 (Voip PBX) Free World DialUp: 780217 EXT: 250 (Voip) Cellular:

Re: [asterisk-users] SIP v IAX2

2006-10-26 Thread Conrad Wood
On Thu, 2006-10-26 at 06:51 -0400, Al Bochter wrote: Lets talk about SIP and IAX2 1. The good and bad of both 2. What is the better one and why 3. and any other information that maybe use full like this? http://www.voip-info.org/wiki-IAX+versus+SIP

Re: [asterisk-users] SIP v IAX2

2006-10-26 Thread Tzafrir Cohen
On Thu, Oct 26, 2006 at 06:51:39AM -0400, Al Bochter wrote: Lets talk about SIP and IAX2 1. The good and bad of both 2. What is the better one and why 3. and any other information that maybe use full Let's be more specific. For connecting phones? For interconnecting PBXs? Have you did some

Re: [asterisk-users] SIP v IAX2

2006-10-26 Thread Pavel Jezek
iax using one port, that is good if going through firewalls and is efektive when trunking multiple calls, but not using tcp, so it is not so great (tunneling through ssh is not possible) iax using own jitterbuffer, that isn't interoperate with generic jitterbuffer used in SIP iax-iax

Re: [asterisk-users] SIP v IAX2

2006-10-26 Thread Dave Cotton
On Thu, 2006-10-26 at 14:23 +0200, Pavel Jezek wrote: with iax I have still problems with messages like: [Oct 26 12:58:30] NOTICE[11417]: chan_iax2.c:7075 socket_process: Peer 'wilder' is now TOO LAGGED (2014 ms)! [Oct 26 12:59:37] NOTICE[11415]: chan_iax2.c:7075 socket_process: Peer

Re: [asterisk-users] SIP v IAX2

2006-10-26 Thread Pavel Jezek
with SIP qualify, I can specify, what time in delay I will accept, with sip and setting qualify=3000 I can circumvent this anoying messages (bacause delay in reply is about 2000ms, and I accept 3000ms) with iax, qualify is working different, so setting qualify=3000 will ping peer every 3s,

Re: [asterisk-users] SIP v IAX2

2006-10-26 Thread Dave Cotton
On Thu, 2006-10-26 at 17:43 +0200, Pavel Jezek wrote: with SIP qualify, I can specify, what time in delay I will accept, with sip and setting qualify=3000 I can circumvent this anoying messages (bacause delay in reply is about 2000ms, and I accept 3000ms) with iax, qualify is working

RE: [asterisk-users] SIP v IAX2

2006-10-26 Thread Douglas Garstang
-Original Message- From: Dave Cotton [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, October 26, 2006 10:21 AM To: Asterisk Users Mailing List - Non-Commercial Discussion Subject: Re: [asterisk-users] SIP v IAX2 On Thu, 2006-10-26 at 17:43 +0200, Pavel Jezek wrote: with SIP qualify

RE: [asterisk-users] SIP v IAX2

2006-10-26 Thread Henry.L.Coleman
Mailing List - Non-Commercial Discussion Subject: Re: [asterisk-users] SIP v IAX2 On Thu, 2006-10-26 at 17:43 +0200, Pavel Jezek wrote: with SIP qualify, I can specify, what time in delay I will accept, with sip and setting qualify=3000 I can circumvent this anoying messages (bacause delay

RE: [asterisk-users] SIP v IAX2

2006-10-26 Thread Guillermo Salas M.
-5355 Toronto Ontario Canada -Original Message- From: Dave Cotton [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, October 26, 2006 10:21 AM To: Asterisk Users Mailing List - Non-Commercial Discussion Subject: Re: [asterisk-users] SIP v IAX2 On Thu, 2006-10-26 at 17:43 +0200

Re: [asterisk-users] SIP v IAX2

2006-10-26 Thread Andrew Kohlsmith
On Thursday 26 October 2006 13:14, Henry.L.Coleman wrote: As I understand it the main advantege IAX has over SIP is the number of port it uses and therefore its ability to traverse router/switches and firewalls Yes. Also the higher number of simulatanious SIP calls travelling through these

RE: [asterisk-users] SIP v IAX2

2006-10-26 Thread Henry.L.Coleman
: Dave Cotton [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, October 26, 2006 10:21 AM To: Asterisk Users Mailing List - Non-Commercial Discussion Subject: Re: [asterisk-users] SIP v IAX2 On Thu, 2006-10-26 at 17:43 +0200, Pavel Jezek wrote: with SIP qualify, I can specify, what time

Re: [asterisk-users] SIP v IAX2

2006-10-26 Thread Olle E Johansson
26 okt 2006 kl. 18.57 skrev Douglas Garstang: -Original Message- From: Dave Cotton [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, October 26, 2006 10:21 AM To: Asterisk Users Mailing List - Non-Commercial Discussion Subject: Re: [asterisk-users] SIP v IAX2 On Thu, 2006-10-26 at 17:43

RE: [asterisk-users] SIP v IAX2

2006-10-26 Thread Douglas Garstang
-Original Message- From: Olle E Johansson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, October 26, 2006 1:53 PM To: Asterisk Users Mailing List - Non-Commercial Discussion Subject: Re: [asterisk-users] SIP v IAX2 26 okt 2006 kl. 18.57 skrev Douglas Garstang: -Original