Re: [asterisk-users] stir/shaken

2021-11-30 Thread Joshua C. Colp
On Tue, Nov 30, 2021 at 1:22 PM Henning Follmann wrote: > > Hello, > I have some trouble reading the headers. > Asterisk 16 > > in my dial plan I have these: > > ... > exten => _X,n,NoOp(Number of STIR/SHAKEN identities: ${STIR_SHAKEN(count)}) > exten => _X,n,NoOp(First STIR/SHAKEN identity:

[asterisk-users] stir/shaken

2021-11-30 Thread Henning Follmann
Hello, I have some trouble reading the headers. Asterisk 16 in my dial plan I have these: ... exten => _X,n,NoOp(Number of STIR/SHAKEN identities: ${STIR_SHAKEN(count)}) exten => _X,n,NoOp(First STIR/SHAKEN identity: ${STIR_SHAKEN(0,identity)}) exten => _X,n,NoOp(First STIR/SHAKEN attestation:

Re: [asterisk-users] STIR/SHAKEN

2021-05-12 Thread Alexander Perkins
Hi All. The folks at TILTX have set up a Facebook Live event for Wednesday, May 26, 2021 at 12:00 PM Eastern Time. According to TILTX, this will cover STIR/SHAKEN and how Asterisk works with it. If anybody is interested, here is the link. https://www.facebook.com/events/489246355856999/

Re: [asterisk-users] STIR/SHAKEN

2021-03-25 Thread Alexander Perkins
Hey All. I spoke to the guys at TILTX and they agreed to host a 30 minute webinar for STIR/SHAKEN and Asterisk. They will coordinate internally and they will send me an invite. I will share this invite in the event anybody would like to join. Alex --

Re: [asterisk-users] STIR/SHAKEN

2021-03-11 Thread Sebastian Nielsen
...@lists.digium.com För d...@donkelly.biz Skickat: den 12 mars 2021 03:14 Till: 'Asterisk Users Mailing List - Non-Commercial Discussion' Ämne: Re: [asterisk-users] STIR/SHAKEN You said it in your first post when you said “I reallt don’t understand.” You don’t understand the business

Re: [asterisk-users] STIR/SHAKEN

2021-03-11 Thread Sebastian Nielsen
Till: Asterisk Users Mailing List - Non-Commercial Discussion Ämne: Re: [asterisk-users] STIR/SHAKEN Hi, I wanted to add some comments to Sebastian's response: 1- When you have a lot of DIDs, you can't just "port" them over from company1 to company2. Try to have 1M or so DI

Re: [asterisk-users] STIR/SHAKEN

2021-03-11 Thread John Millican
2021 01:23 *Till:* asterisk-users@lists.digium.com *Ämne:* Re: [asterisk-users] STIR/SHAKEN Hi Jeff.  What exactly do you mean by the 'inbound piece'?  I've spent quite a lot of time with the folks at TILTX understanding the framework; but I am not exactly sure what you mean by the 'inbound

Re: [asterisk-users] STIR/SHAKEN

2021-03-11 Thread Sebastian Nielsen
: asterisk-users@lists.digium.com Ämne: Re: [asterisk-users] STIR/SHAKEN Hi Jeff. What exactly do you mean by the 'inbound piece'? I've spent quite a lot of time with the folks at TILTX understanding the framework; but I am not exactly sure what you mean by the 'inbound piece. Greg/Doug, like

Re: [asterisk-users] STIR/SHAKEN

2021-03-11 Thread Jeff LaCoursiere
The "inbound piece" is "what do I do with the tag information"? Should I find a way to present the fact that a call has an A rating? Should I offer to block calls with a C rating? It would be great to see asterisk be able to unpack this stuff and have it available as a dialplan variable and

Re: [asterisk-users] STIR/SHAKEN

2021-03-11 Thread Jeff LaCoursiere
sen *Sent:* Thursday, March 11, 2021 7:21 PM *To:* 'Mailing List' *Subject:* Re: [asterisk-users] STIR/SHAKEN 1:  1M DID’s? Then I would go straight out and say you are a phone operator, and then getting your own STIR/SHAKEN certificate shouldn’t be a problem at all. Thats a massive amount

Re: [asterisk-users] STIR/SHAKEN

2021-03-11 Thread dk
of us. It clearly isn’t a big deal for you, so you probably don’t have much to add to the discussion. --Don From: asterisk-users On Behalf Of Sebastian Nielsen Sent: Thursday, March 11, 2021 7:21 PM To: 'Mailing List' Subject: Re: [asterisk-users] STIR/SHAKEN 1: 1M DID’s

Re: [asterisk-users] STIR/SHAKEN

2021-03-11 Thread Joel Serrano
om company 1 to company 2 – then company 2 owns your DIDs. > > > > Best regards, Sebastian Nielsen > > > > *Från:* asterisk-users-boun...@lists.digium.com < > asterisk-users-boun...@lists.digium.com> *För *Alexander Perkins > *Skickat:* den 12 mars 2021 01:23 > *T

Re: [asterisk-users] STIR/SHAKEN

2021-03-11 Thread Telium Technical Support
com> mailto:asterisk-users-boun...@lists.digium.com> > För Alexander Perkins Skickat: den 12 mars 2021 01:23 Till: asterisk-users@lists.digium.com <mailto:asterisk-users@lists.digium.com> Ämne: Re: [asterisk-users] STIR/SHAKEN Hi Jeff. What exactly do you mean by the 'inbound piece'? I've

Re: [asterisk-users] STIR/SHAKEN

2021-03-11 Thread Alexander Perkins
Hi Jeff. What exactly do you mean by the 'inbound piece'? I've spent quite a lot of time with the folks at TILTX understanding the framework; but I am not exactly sure what you mean by the 'inbound piece. Greg/Doug, like many folks here, we use LCR. So, the terminating carrier is not

Re: [asterisk-users] STIR/SHAKEN

2021-03-08 Thread Jeff LaCoursiere
Hi Alex, Are they doing anything on inbound for you, and have you made any decisions about how you will display the tag to your customers? I have been focusing on the outbound piece of this, just starting to think about what to do with the incoming data... Cheers, Jeff LaCoursiere

Re: [asterisk-users] STIR/SHAKEN

2021-03-07 Thread Alexander Perkins
Hi Greg. In our use case, we purchase DIDs from them. So, they are the inbound carrier (they are a CLEC and IPES) and STIR/SHAKEN Service Provider. However, we do not use them for termination. They offer service termination, but we do not use them due to existing contracts. So, in order to

Re: [asterisk-users] STIR/SHAKEN

2021-03-07 Thread Jeff LaCoursiere
On 3/7/21 2:26 PM, Doug Lytle wrote: On 3/7/21 1:43 PM, Greg Troxel wrote: So I wonder if your asterisk instance is connecting to the PSTN as a top-level carrier, or, more likely, I am confused in some way. Greg, I think this is the case for quite alot of those here. For me though, I just

Re: [asterisk-users] STIR/SHAKEN

2021-03-07 Thread Doug Lytle
On 3/7/21 1:43 PM, Greg Troxel wrote: So I wonder if your asterisk instance is connecting to the PSTN as a top-level carrier, or, more likely, I am confused in some way. Greg, I think this is the case for quite alot of those here. For me though, I just manage the on premise PBX and my

Re: [asterisk-users] STIR/SHAKEN

2021-03-07 Thread Greg Troxel
Alexander Perkins writes: > They ended up creating an AGI script for us that handles everything. At > the end of the day, all we needed to do was pull down the script, and add > the exten => s,n,AGI(TILTX-SHAKEN.agi) command and it handles > everything else. I wonder if you could step back

Re: [asterisk-users] STIR/SHAKEN

2021-03-07 Thread Alexander Perkins
Hi All. I wanted to give an update to this as we've been working closely with the Technology Innovation Lab (TILTX) and getting this working on our Asterisk boxes. They ended up creating an AGI script for us that handles everything. At the end of the day, all we needed to do was pull down the

Re: [asterisk-users] STIR/SHAKEN

2021-01-28 Thread Jeff LaCoursiere
On 1/28/21 2:08 AM, Alexander Perkins wrote: Jeff, yes.  The process is long.  It is actually around one year.  We ended up going with a SHAKEN Service Provider named Technology Innovation Lab (www.tiltx.com ). They have been awesome.  They are certified in Asterisk and

[asterisk-users] STIR/SHAKEN

2021-01-28 Thread Alexander Perkins
Jeff, yes. The process is long. It is actually around one year. We ended up going with a SHAKEN Service Provider named Technology Innovation Lab ( www.tiltx.com). They have been awesome. They are certified in Asterisk and catered the solution to our Asterisk install. Highly recommend them.

[asterisk-users] STIR/SHAKEN

2021-01-25 Thread Jeff LaCoursiere
On 1/25/21 12:12 PM, Steve Edwards wrote: On Mon, 25 Jan 2021, Jeff LaCoursiere wrote: So how does this guy get around it?  It sounds to me like he is offering to sign calls for whoever, which IMO totally defeats the purpose. IIRC, back when he first started hawking his solution, he

Re: [asterisk-users] Stir Shaken is upon us

2020-07-15 Thread Steve Edwards
On Sun, 12 Jul 2020, Steve Edwards wrote: So this is a provider issue, not an end user issue and 'June 30, 2021' doesn't sound like 'soon.' If this is legit, why haven't my providers said squat? Seems one of my providers, Vitelity (iax.cc to us old timers), when asked, is not panicking

Re: [asterisk-users] Stir Shaken

2020-07-15 Thread Joshua C. Colp
On Tue, Jul 14, 2020 at 4:36 PM Saint Michael wrote: > I need to point out the this is factually misleading and materially false: > "I think this, being the basis of your whole argument, is the fallacy. > S/S is forcing people to take responsibility, for sure, but carriers > won't just let their

Re: [asterisk-users] Stir Shaken

2020-07-14 Thread Telium Technical Support
To: 'Asterisk Users Mailing List - Non-Commercial Discussion' Subject: Re: [asterisk-users] Stir Shaken From: asterisk-users mailto:asterisk-users-boun...@lists.digium.com> > On Behalf Of Saint Michael Sent: Tuesday, July 14, 2020 2:35 PM To: asterisk-users@lists.digium.com <mailto

Re: [asterisk-users] Stir Shaken

2020-07-14 Thread dk
From: asterisk-users On Behalf Of Saint Michael Sent: Tuesday, July 14, 2020 2:35 PM To: asterisk-users@lists.digium.com Subject: [asterisk-users] Stir Shaken I need to point out the this is factually misleading and materially false: "I think this, being the basis of your

[asterisk-users] Stir Shaken

2020-07-14 Thread Saint Michael
I need to point out the this is factually misleading and materially false: "I think this, being the basis of your whole argument, is the fallacy. S/S is forcing people to take responsibility, for sure, but carriers won't just let their customers leave because they don't want to sign calls. It

Re: [asterisk-users] Stir Shaken

2020-07-13 Thread Joshua C. Colp
On Mon, Jul 13, 2020 at 4:59 PM John Covici wrote: > > But the question is, are his statements correct that we need some > service -- not necessarily his -- to sign the call before sending it > to our normal carrier, or will the normal carrier -- whoever -- sign > the call if they know the

Re: [asterisk-users] Stir Shaken

2020-07-13 Thread dk
-Original Message- From: asterisk-users On Behalf Of Matthew Fredrickson Sent: Monday, July 13, 2020 2:44 PM To: Asterisk Users Mailing List - Non-Commercial Discussion Subject: Re: [asterisk-users] Stir Shaken On Mon, Jul 13, 2020 at 2:34 PM Saint Michael wrote

Re: [asterisk-users] Stir Shaken

2020-07-13 Thread Steve Edwards
On Mon, 13 Jul 2020, Jeff LaCoursiere wrote: Some of us may actually be interested in what you have to offer if you changed the way you were presenting it. Who is going to base their business on some list guy with a gmail address? And can't follow directions and honor the mailing list rules.

Re: [asterisk-users] Stir Shaken

2020-07-13 Thread Eric Wieling
I used their scam checking service. Below is part of the dialplan I used. I don't know how their STIR/SHAKEN service works the same. same = n,GosubIf($[${LEN(${CALLERID(num)})} == 11]?scam-check,${EXTEN},1) same = n,Goto(from-pstn,${EXTEN},1) [scam-check] exten = _XX.,1,Noop same =

Re: [asterisk-users] Stir Shaken

2020-07-13 Thread Jeff LaCoursiere
On 7/13/20 2:32 PM, Saint Michael wrote: There is a big confusion here about Stir Shaken. It is NOT a provider issue. Un fact, all providers are whasing their hands and modifying their swihtches to pass-through the Signature. They cannot sign the call because then the become the

Re: [asterisk-users] Stir Shaken

2020-07-13 Thread John Covici
On Mon, 13 Jul 2020 15:44:12 -0400, Matthew Fredrickson wrote: > > On Mon, Jul 13, 2020 at 2:34 PM Saint Michael wrote: > >> > >> There is a big confusion here about Stir Shaken. It is NOT a provider > >> issue. Un fact, all providers are whasing their hands and modifying their > >> swihtches

Re: [asterisk-users] Stir Shaken

2020-07-13 Thread Matthew Fredrickson
On Mon, Jul 13, 2020 at 2:34 PM Saint Michael wrote: >> >> There is a big confusion here about Stir Shaken. It is NOT a provider issue. >> Un fact, all providers are whasing their hands and modifying their swihtches >> to pass-through the Signature. They cannot sign the call because then the

[asterisk-users] Stir Shaken

2020-07-13 Thread Saint Michael
> > There is a big confusion here about Stir Shaken. It is NOT a provider > issue. Un fact, all providers are whasing their hands and modifying their > swihtches to pass-through the Signature. They cannot sign the call because > then the become the responsible party for the call before the FCC,

Re: [asterisk-users] Stir Shaken is upon us

2020-07-13 Thread Joshua C. Colp
On Mon, Jul 13, 2020 at 3:59 PM Michael Maier wrote: > On 13.07.20 at 10:54 Joshua C. Colp wrote: > > On Sun, Jul 12, 2020 at 11:37 PM Michael Maier > wrote: > >> One more question, > >> what about the pjsip pcap support? Will it be backported to Asterisk 16, > >> too? Would be absolutely cool!

Re: [asterisk-users] Stir Shaken is upon us

2020-07-13 Thread Michael Maier
On 13.07.20 at 10:54 Joshua C. Colp wrote: > On Sun, Jul 12, 2020 at 11:37 PM Michael Maier wrote: >> One more question, >> what about the pjsip pcap support? Will it be backported to Asterisk 16, >> too? Would be absolutely cool! Debugging encrypted SIP is really a pain. >> > > It can't be

Re: [asterisk-users] Stir Shaken is upon us

2020-07-13 Thread Dan Jenkins
Thanks Josh for clarifying! I'd assumed it would be backported but didnt want to just assume :) Thanks Matt for doing the video! (hint hint theres a load of good content THIS WEEK over on the commcon youtube channel but that's all I'll say about that here) On Mon, Jul 13, 2020 at 9:55 AM Joshua

Re: [asterisk-users] Stir Shaken is upon us

2020-07-13 Thread Joshua C. Colp
On Sun, Jul 12, 2020 at 11:37 PM Michael Maier wrote: > On 13.07.20 at 00:17 Joshua C. Colp wrote: > > On Sun, Jul 12, 2020 at 7:12 PM Dan Jenkins wrote: > > > >> Asterisk 18 will have support based on this asterisk update Matt F did > for > >> CommCon's sponsor slots > >> > >>

Re: [asterisk-users] Stir Shaken is upon us

2020-07-12 Thread Michael Maier
On 13.07.20 at 00:17 Joshua C. Colp wrote: > On Sun, Jul 12, 2020 at 7:12 PM Dan Jenkins wrote: > >> Asterisk 18 will have support based on this asterisk update Matt F did for >> CommCon's sponsor slots >> >> https://youtu.be/eas1csaX-wc >> >> > As well support will go into Asterisk 16 and 17 as

Re: [asterisk-users] Stir Shaken is upon us

2020-07-12 Thread Matthew Fredrickson
On Sun, Jul 12, 2020 at 5:18 PM Joshua C. Colp wrote: > > On Sun, Jul 12, 2020 at 7:12 PM Dan Jenkins wrote: >> >> Asterisk 18 will have support based on this asterisk update Matt F did for >> CommCon's sponsor slots >> >> https://youtu.be/eas1csaX-wc >> > > As well support will go into

Re: [asterisk-users] Stir Shaken is upon us

2020-07-12 Thread Joshua C. Colp
On Sun, Jul 12, 2020 at 7:12 PM Dan Jenkins wrote: > Asterisk 18 will have support based on this asterisk update Matt F did for > CommCon's sponsor slots > > https://youtu.be/eas1csaX-wc > > As well support will go into Asterisk 16 and 17 as well. It's just been under active development so we've

Re: [asterisk-users] Stir Shaken is upon us

2020-07-12 Thread Dan Jenkins
Asterisk 18 will have support based on this asterisk update Matt F did for CommCon's sponsor slots https://youtu.be/eas1csaX-wc On Sun, 12 Jul 2020, 22:44 Steve Edwards, wrote: > On Sun, 12 Jul 2020, Saint Michael wrote: > > > WORLDWIDE EMERGENCY > > Again? > > > The code below needs to be

Re: [asterisk-users] Stir Shaken is upon us

2020-07-12 Thread Steve Edwards
On Sun, 12 Jul 2020, Saint Michael wrote: WORLDWIDE EMERGENCY Again? The code below needs to be executed before any SIP or PJSIP call destined to the US network, or soon no call will terminate. This is called Stir-Shaken, a new law from the FCC. If this is not working the whole Asterisk

[asterisk-users] Stir Shaken is upon us

2020-07-12 Thread Saint Michael
WORLDWIDE EMERGENCY The code below needs to be executed before any SIP or PJSIP call destined to the US network, or soon no call will terminate. This is called Stir-Shaken, a new law from the FCC. If this is not working the whole Asterisk industry will crash, vanish, be gone. I am assuming that

Re: [asterisk-users] Stir-Shaken clarified

2020-05-29 Thread Joshua C. Colp
On Fri, May 29, 2020 at 7:37 AM Saint Michael wrote: > > https://wiki.asterisk.org/wiki/display/AST/STIR+and+SHAKEN > The Wiki above is misleading in what Stir-Shaken means and how it works. > End users cannot get a certificate, they cannot self-certify their calls. > Somebody completely

[asterisk-users] Stir-Shaken clarified

2020-05-29 Thread Saint Michael
https://wiki.asterisk.org/wiki/display/AST/STIR+and+SHAKEN The Wiki above is misleading in what Stir-Shaken means and how it works. End users cannot get a certificate, they cannot self-certify their calls. Somebody completely misunderstood the model. I am afraid the moment will come and thousands

Re: [asterisk-users] Stir-Shaken for asterisk

2020-05-28 Thread John Kiniston
Nice, Do you have the code up on GitHub? I'd love to see it. What's the source of the data? Something API driven I hope? Have you thought about implementing your project via curl instead of func_odbc? On Wed, May 27, 2020, 8:52 PM Saint Michael wrote: > In a few weeks, no SIP call is going to

Re: [asterisk-users] Stir-Shaken for asterisk

2020-05-28 Thread Sebastian Nielsen
Jeff LaCoursiere Skickat: den 28 maj 2020 06:11 Till: asterisk-users@lists.digium.com Ämne: Re: [asterisk-users] Stir-Shaken for asterisk A few weeks... like in a year and a few weeks: https://transnexus.com/blog/2020/fcc-mandates-stir-shaken/ Some interesting bits in there as well, like

Re: [asterisk-users] STIR-Shaken

2020-05-28 Thread Steve Edwards
On Thu, 28 May 2020, Saint Michael wrote: My company is one if the six service providers approved. Which part of 'Non-Commercial' do you not understand? The topic may be of general interest. Hawking your wares is not. -- Thanks in advance,

[asterisk-users] STIR-Shaken

2020-05-28 Thread Saint Michael
> > My company is one if the six service providers approved. We are not ready > yet, probbably next week, since the certificate needs to be issued by the > Certification Authority. As I said, we are the ONLY provider that you may > use with Asterisk remotely, via UnixODBC. The rest of the other

Re: [asterisk-users] Stir-Shaken for asterisk

2020-05-27 Thread Steve Edwards
On Wed, 27 May 2020, Saint Michael wrote: We are in the business of... Then this probably should have been posted on -biz. -- Thanks in advance, - Steve Edwards sedwa...@sedwards.com Voice: +1-760-468-3867 PST

Re: [asterisk-users] Stir-Shaken for asterisk

2020-05-27 Thread Eric Wieling
Transnexus has some STIR/SHAKEN related features. https://transnexus.com/clearip/ We are evaluating them for robocall blocking. On 5/28/20 12:10 AM, Jeff LaCoursiere wrote: A few weeks... like in a year and a few weeks: https://transnexus.com/blog/2020/fcc-mandates-stir-shaken/ Some

Re: [asterisk-users] Stir-Shaken for asterisk

2020-05-27 Thread Jeff LaCoursiere
A few weeks... like in a year and a few weeks: https://transnexus.com/blog/2020/fcc-mandates-stir-shaken/ Some interesting bits in there as well, like: "These rules do not apply to providers that lack control of the network infrastructure necessary to implement STIR/SHAKEN." See also:

Re: [asterisk-users] Stir-Shaken for asterisk

2020-05-27 Thread Jeff LaCoursiere
In a few weeks?  FIrst I have heard of this, and your legitimacy is strained by a gmail address. *Jeff LaCoursiere* STRATUSTALK, INC. / CTO Phone: *+1 703.496.4990 x108* Mobile: *+1 815.546.6599* Email: *j...@stratustalk.com* Website:

[asterisk-users] Stir-Shaken for asterisk

2020-05-27 Thread Saint Michael
In a few weeks, no SIP call is going to terminate unless they are signed properly, as mandated by law. We are in the business of Stir-Shaken, signing calls, as an FCC-approved provider. A big differentiator between our service and the rest: we are the only ones who don't need to receive the calls