[asterisk-users] Send cell phone #VM waiting, just like cell carrier

2008-06-22 Thread OCG Technical Support
We have a number of clients who have replaced their cell carrier voicemail
with Asterisk (call forward no answer to * box).

 

One feature they miss is that the cell carriers send the phone a message
showing # voicemails waiting.  Can Asterisk do the same somehow?

 

MD

 

 

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Re: [asterisk-users] Send cell phone #VM waiting, just like cell carrier

2008-06-22 Thread Steve Totaro
On Sun, Jun 22, 2008 at 11:23 AM, OCG Technical Support [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
wrote:
 We have a number of clients who have replaced their cell carrier voicemail
 with Asterisk (call forward no answer to * box).



 One feature they miss is that the cell carriers send the phone a message
 showing # voicemails waiting.  Can Asterisk do the same somehow?



 MD



You could easily send them an SMS telling them they have X number of
new messages and X number of saved messages.

Thanks,
Steve Totaro

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Re: [asterisk-users] Send cell phone #VM waiting, just like cell carrier

2008-06-22 Thread OCG Technical Support
Well, I realize that there must be some proprietary protocol between the
carrier and the phone, since they have a dedicate spot on the cell screen
for # VM waiting...

As for an SMS message, is there a module/app which allows easy SMS
messaging?  (I looked a couple of years ago but only found commercial
modules)

MD

-Original Message-
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[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Steve Totaro
Sent: June 22, 2008 11:28 AM
To: Asterisk Users List
Subject: Re: [asterisk-users] Send cell phone #VM waiting, just like cell
carrier

On Sun, Jun 22, 2008 at 11:23 AM, OCG Technical Support [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
 We have a number of clients who have replaced their cell carrier voicemail
 with Asterisk (call forward no answer to * box).



 One feature they miss is that the cell carriers send the phone a message
 showing # voicemails waiting.  Can Asterisk do the same somehow?



 MD



You could easily send them an SMS telling them they have X number of
new messages and X number of saved messages.

Thanks,
Steve Totaro

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Re: [asterisk-users] Send cell phone #VM waiting, just like cell carrier

2008-06-22 Thread Dean Collins
I just send an email with the voicemail message details.
Cool part about this is the attachment can be downloaded and played on
the phone via windows media player.


Cheers,

Dean



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[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Steve
Totaro
Sent: Sunday, 22 June 2008 11:28 AM
To: Asterisk Users Mailing List - Non-Commercial Discussion
Subject: Re: [asterisk-users] Send cell phone #VM waiting,just like cell
carrier

On Sun, Jun 22, 2008 at 11:23 AM, OCG Technical Support [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
 We have a number of clients who have replaced their cell carrier
voicemail
 with Asterisk (call forward no answer to * box).



 One feature they miss is that the cell carriers send the phone a
message
 showing # voicemails waiting.  Can Asterisk do the same somehow?



 MD



You could easily send them an SMS telling them they have X number of
new messages and X number of saved messages.

Thanks,
Steve Totaro

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Re: [asterisk-users] Send cell phone #VM waiting, just like cell carrier

2008-06-22 Thread OCG Technical Support
We already do thatbut:

If users turn their phone on after being out of range/server/power off, the
carrier sends a VM notification.  Also, not all phones have POP client
capabilities...

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Dean Collins
Sent: June 22, 2008 11:43 AM
To: Asterisk Users List
Subject: Re: [asterisk-users] Send cell phone #VM waiting, just like cell
carrier

I just send an email with the voicemail message details.
Cool part about this is the attachment can be downloaded and played on
the phone via windows media player.


Cheers,

Dean



-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Steve
Totaro
Sent: Sunday, 22 June 2008 11:28 AM
To: Asterisk Users Mailing List - Non-Commercial Discussion
Subject: Re: [asterisk-users] Send cell phone #VM waiting,just like cell
carrier

On Sun, Jun 22, 2008 at 11:23 AM, OCG Technical Support [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
 We have a number of clients who have replaced their cell carrier
voicemail
 with Asterisk (call forward no answer to * box).



 One feature they miss is that the cell carriers send the phone a
message
 showing # voicemails waiting.  Can Asterisk do the same somehow?



 MD



You could easily send them an SMS telling them they have X number of
new messages and X number of saved messages.

Thanks,
Steve Totaro

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Re: [asterisk-users] Send cell phone #VM waiting, just like cell carrier

2008-06-22 Thread Sherwood McGowan
OCG Technical Support wrote:
 We already do thatbut:

 If users turn their phone on after being out of range/server/power off, the
 carrier sends a VM notification.  Also, not all phones have POP client
 capabilities...

 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Dean Collins
 Sent: June 22, 2008 11:43 AM
 To: Asterisk Users List
 Subject: Re: [asterisk-users] Send cell phone #VM waiting, just like cell
 carrier

 I just send an email with the voicemail message details.
 Cool part about this is the attachment can be downloaded and played on
 the phone via windows media player.


 Cheers,

 Dean



 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Steve
 Totaro
 Sent: Sunday, 22 June 2008 11:28 AM
 To: Asterisk Users Mailing List - Non-Commercial Discussion
 Subject: Re: [asterisk-users] Send cell phone #VM waiting,just like cell
 carrier

 On Sun, Jun 22, 2008 at 11:23 AM, OCG Technical Support [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 wrote:
   
 We have a number of clients who have replaced their cell carrier
 
 voicemail
   
 with Asterisk (call forward no answer to * box).



 One feature they miss is that the cell carriers send the phone a
 
 message
   
 showing # voicemails waiting.  Can Asterisk do the same somehow?



 MD


 

 You could easily send them an SMS telling them they have X number of
 new messages and X number of saved messages.

 Thanks,
 Steve Totaro

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Quick note, almost every cell phone carrier has an email to SMS gateway 
that you can use to send their customers SMS via email

-- 
Sherwood McGowan
VoIP / Telecom Solutions
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Re: [asterisk-users] Send cell phone #VM waiting, just like cell carrier

2008-06-22 Thread Matt Watson
On June 22, 2008 11:32:56 am OCG Technical Support wrote:
 Well, I realize that there must be some proprietary protocol between the
 carrier and the phone, since they have a dedicate spot on the cell screen
 for # VM waiting...

 As for an SMS message, is there a module/app which allows easy SMS
 messaging?  (I looked a couple of years ago but only found commercial
 modules)

Don't quote me on this, but I think that the standard voicemail notifications 
that cell phones recieve are just a regular SMS message but in some kind of 
special format that the phone recognizes and does not display as a regular 
text message.

I had an unlocked Moto razr at one point that didn't come from my cell 
provider, at one point while I had it the VM notifications didn;t really 
work... everytime i got a VM I'd get a SMS message with special characters in 
the message body.  I sort of chalked it up to not using the branded firmware 
that my provider would have put on my phone if the phone had come from them.

At any rate, if I'm right, and you can find some information on that protocol, 
it might turn out to be alot easier than you think.

and btw - Asterisk ships with app_sms but depending on your country it may not 
really be what you are looking for.  I could be very very wrong here, but I 
don't believe Asterisk has a great implementation for text messaging in North 
America.  This is probably because every cell carrier seems to do it just a 
little bit differently.

Depending on your needs however, most cell carriers offer email-to-SMS 
gateways so you can just send an email to 
yourcellnumber@yourcellcarrier.com kind of thing... if you need it to 
work from a machine with no Internet access however, then you might need to 
do something like use a dialup modem to dial into your cell carriers TAP 
number (provided they offer one and you can either explain to the tier 1 
support guy what you are looking for, or you can find the number on the 
internet).

However again, I don;t believe Asterisk has any interface for TAP, but in 
theory you could use something like the sendpage daemon to handle the TAP 
stuff and then have Asterisk hand off the text messages to sendpage using a 
simple bash script and the System() application... if Asterisk had an 
implementation for SNPP then you could send your messages to sendpage that 
way - also *some* cell providers even offer SNPP gateways over the internet, 
but again good luck explaining to the tech what you want.

I've actually been toying with the idea of creating a res_snpp or something 
for this purpose since I already use sendpage for our server 
monitoring/alerting system to page me on my cell via dialup TAP (so my 
monitoring server can still page me in the event of an internet outage).

Anyhow, sorry that message got a bit lengthy pretty fast!

-- 
Matt Watson
http://www.mattgwatson.ca

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Re: [asterisk-users] Send cell phone #VM waiting, just like cell carrier

2008-06-22 Thread Peter Lindquist


Matt Watson wrote:

On June 22, 2008 11:32:56 am OCG Technical Support wrote:
  

Well, I realize that there must be some proprietary protocol between the
carrier and the phone, since they have a dedicate spot on the cell screen
for # VM waiting...

As for an SMS message, is there a module/app which allows easy SMS
messaging?  (I looked a couple of years ago but only found commercial
modules)



Don't quote me on this, but I think that the standard voicemail notifications 
that cell phones recieve are just a regular SMS message but in some kind of 
special format that the phone recognizes and does not display as a regular 
text message.


I had an unlocked Moto razr at one point that didn't come from my cell 
provider, at one point while I had it the VM notifications didn;t really 
work... everytime i got a VM I'd get a SMS message with special characters in 
the message body.  I sort of chalked it up to not using the branded firmware 
that my provider would have put on my phone if the phone had come from them.


At any rate, if I'm right, and you can find some information on that protocol, 
it might turn out to be alot easier than you think.


and btw - Asterisk ships with app_sms but depending on your country it may not 
really be what you are looking for.  I could be very very wrong here, but I 
don't believe Asterisk has a great implementation for text messaging in North 
America.  This is probably because every cell carrier seems to do it just a 
little bit differently.


Depending on your needs however, most cell carriers offer email-to-SMS 
gateways so you can just send an email to 
yourcellnumber@yourcellcarrier.com kind of thing... if you need it to 
work from a machine with no Internet access however, then you might need to 
do something like use a dialup modem to dial into your cell carriers TAP 
number (provided they offer one and you can either explain to the tier 1 
support guy what you are looking for, or you can find the number on the 
internet).


However again, I don;t believe Asterisk has any interface for TAP, but in 
theory you could use something like the sendpage daemon to handle the TAP 
stuff and then have Asterisk hand off the text messages to sendpage using a 
simple bash script and the System() application... if Asterisk had an 
implementation for SNPP then you could send your messages to sendpage that 
way - also *some* cell providers even offer SNPP gateways over the internet, 
but again good luck explaining to the tech what you want.


I've actually been toying with the idea of creating a res_snpp or something 
for this purpose since I already use sendpage for our server 
monitoring/alerting system to page me on my cell via dialup TAP (so my 
monitoring server can still page me in the event of an internet outage).


Anyhow, sorry that message got a bit lengthy pretty fast!

  
Check out http://www.ihub.com which have lots of information regarding 
SMS messages, you can also use their software as a trial for 60 days to 
see it in action.


//Peter
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