Re: [asterisk-users] Spoofing CID
On Jul 3, 2008, at 10:45 PM, Alex Balashov wrote: Alexander Lopez wrote: I may create an IVR Hell for them, so that I can transfer the calls to, Hey, Its their dime. If you do end up going that route, please share the details, and possibly the code. We could all benefit from a good IVR from hell. I certainly could use one. No, I'm not being sarcastic. I tried an IVR once before but they hang up immediately... instead I have a recorded message of me saying Hello then a wait 5 sec... and then an I'm sorry, ... yatta yatta yatta if youuse real number I'll take your call. I use a blacklist script to add numbers to and record the call. During that 5 sec wait they normally talk, so it provides me some sense of amusement (sadly). Fred Posner [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.teamforrest.com FWD#: 902963 smime.p7s Description: S/MIME cryptographic signature ___ -- Bandwidth and Colocation Provided by http://www.api-digital.com -- AstriCon 2008 - September 22 - 25 Phoenix, Arizona Register Now: http://www.astricon.net asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
[asterisk-users] Spoofing CID
So who out there is aware of the FCC or FTC laws concerning spoofing caller ID for deceptive purposes? There's a collection agency out there who has my wife's name crossed with someone else's, and they are picking numbers from our area code to present themselves as when calling us (over and over and over.) I of course would like to turn this around on them as they refuse to believe who we say we are. ___ -- Bandwidth and Colocation Provided by http://www.api-digital.com -- AstriCon 2008 - September 22 - 25 Phoenix, Arizona Register Now: http://www.astricon.net asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [asterisk-users] Spoofing CID
On Thu, Jul 3, 2008 at 9:26 PM, Robert Goodyear [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: So who out there is aware of the FCC or FTC laws concerning spoofing caller ID for deceptive purposes? There's a collection agency out there who has my wife's name crossed with someone else's, and they are picking numbers from our area code to present themselves as when calling us (over and over and over.) I of course would like to turn this around on them as they refuse to believe who we say we are. That sucks! Here's an older article about this seemingly common practice: http://www.securityfocus.com/news/9822 ___ -- Bandwidth and Colocation Provided by http://www.api-digital.com -- AstriCon 2008 - September 22 - 25 Phoenix, Arizona Register Now: http://www.astricon.net asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [asterisk-users] Spoofing CID
Yeah I'm thinking either homeland security or some other identity-critical legislation might be on my side here. On Thu, Jul 3, 2008 at 12:40 PM, randulo [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Thu, Jul 3, 2008 at 9:26 PM, Robert Goodyear [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: So who out there is aware of the FCC or FTC laws concerning spoofing caller ID for deceptive purposes? There's a collection agency out there who has my wife's name crossed with someone else's, and they are picking numbers from our area code to present themselves as when calling us (over and over and over.) I of course would like to turn this around on them as they refuse to believe who we say we are. That sucks! Here's an older article about this seemingly common practice: http://www.securityfocus.com/news/9822 ___ -- Bandwidth and Colocation Provided by http://www.api-digital.com -- AstriCon 2008 - September 22 - 25 Phoenix, Arizona Register Now: http://www.astricon.net asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [asterisk-users] Spoofing CID
Robert Goodyear wrote: Yeah I'm thinking either homeland security or some other identity-critical legislation might be on my side here. On Thu, Jul 3, 2008 at 12:40 PM, randulo [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Thu, Jul 3, 2008 at 9:26 PM, Robert Goodyear [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: So who out there is aware of the FCC or FTC laws concerning spoofing caller ID for deceptive purposes? There's a collection agency out there who has my wife's name crossed with someone else's, and they are picking numbers from our area code to present themselves as when calling us (over and over and over.) I of course would like to turn this around on them as they refuse to believe who we say we are. That sucks! Here's an older article about this seemingly common practice: http://www.securityfocus.com/news/9822 If I were you I would go to the local Sheriff's department (not local police) and file a harassment complaint. ___ -- Bandwidth and Colocation Provided by http://www.api-digital.com -- AstriCon 2008 - September 22 - 25 Phoenix, Arizona Register Now: http://www.astricon.net asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [asterisk-users] Spoofing CID
Neither DHS nor FTC has any legislation on this. Florida house had a bill. Unfortunately, Collection agencies are deceptive by nature as most other options have been exhausted before an account goes to collections. I get the same thing here; they once even called me from a number that had my same last name!! There is one Alex Lopez (NOT ME) here in Miami that owes a lot of people a lot of money. I get calls at all times of the day and night, they forge the number, and so what do they care about following the FTC rules I feel your pain. I may create an IVR Hell for them, so that I can transfer the calls to, Hey, Its their dime. Alex From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Robert Goodyear Sent: Thursday, July 03, 2008 4:01 PM To: Asterisk Users Mailing List - Non-Commercial Discussion Subject: Re: [asterisk-users] Spoofing CID Yeah I'm thinking either homeland security or some other identity-critical legislation might be on my side here. On Thu, Jul 3, 2008 at 12:40 PM, randulo [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Thu, Jul 3, 2008 at 9:26 PM, Robert Goodyear [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: So who out there is aware of the FCC or FTC laws concerning spoofing caller ID for deceptive purposes? There's a collection agency out there who has my wife's name crossed with someone else's, and they are picking numbers from our area code to present themselves as when calling us (over and over and over.) I of course would like to turn this around on them as they refuse to believe who we say we are. That sucks! Here's an older article about this seemingly common practice: http://www.securityfocus.com/news/9822 ___ -- Bandwidth and Colocation Provided by http://www.api-digital.com -- AstriCon 2008 - September 22 - 25 Phoenix, Arizona Register Now: http://www.astricon.net asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [asterisk-users] Spoofing CID
On Thursday 03 July 2008 15:54:36 Alexander Lopez wrote: Neither DHS nor FTC has any legislation on this. Florida house had a bill. Unfortunately, Collection agencies are deceptive by nature as most other options have been exhausted before an account goes to collections. I get the same thing here; they once even called me from a number that had my same last name!! There is one Alex Lopez (NOT ME) here in Miami that owes a lot of people a lot of money. I get calls at all times of the day and night, they forge the number, and so what do they care about following the FTC rules I feel your pain. I may create an IVR Hell for them, so that I can transfer the calls to, Hey, Its their dime. A registered letter, with return receipt is the best way to deal with these clowns. If that doesn't work, your only alternative is to file a lawsuit. There are some good online resources for this. Filing a lawsuit is actually fairly inexpensive, but when you compare that to the expense they incur simply to have a lawyer show up in court, unless this guy owes thousands of dollars (enough to make it worth their while in court), they will do everything in their power to avoid getting into that scenario. Collection efforts are all about making you feel badly enough that you cave in to their demands. Making them spend money to collect money is exactly the opposite of what they want to do, and thus it's the most effective way to get them to back down. -- Tilghman ___ -- Bandwidth and Colocation Provided by http://www.api-digital.com -- AstriCon 2008 - September 22 - 25 Phoenix, Arizona Register Now: http://www.astricon.net asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [asterisk-users] Spoofing CID
Snip On Thursday 03 July 2008 15:54:36 Alexander Lopez wrote: Snip There is one Alex Lopez (NOT ME) here in Miami that owes a lot of people a lot of money. I get calls at all times of the day and night, they forge the number, and so what do they care about following the FTC rules I feel your pain. I may create an IVR Hell for them, so that I can transfer the calls to, Hey, Its their dime. A registered letter, with return receipt is the best way to deal with these clowns. If that doesn't work, your only alternative is to file a lawsuit. There are some good online resources for this. Filing a lawsuit is actually fairly inexpensive, but when you compare that to the expense they incur simply to have a lawyer show up in court, unless this guy owes thousands of dollars (enough to make it worth their while in court), they will do everything in their power to avoid getting into that scenario. Collection efforts are all about making you feel badly enough that you cave in to their demands. Making them spend money to collect money is exactly the opposite of what they want to do, and thus it's the most effective way to get them to back down. -- Tilghman Snip I stay quit most of the time and let them provide the sensitive data. I never give them my Social but I will confirm that they have the wrong one. Problem with a certified letter is that they hang up before you can get that info from them. Another problem with this is that some calls may actually be phishing. Fishing is big in Florida, but it seams that phishing is big all over the world!!! ___ -- Bandwidth and Colocation Provided by http://www.api-digital.com -- AstriCon 2008 - September 22 - 25 Phoenix, Arizona Register Now: http://www.astricon.net asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [asterisk-users] Spoofing CID
Robert Goodyear wrote: So who out there is aware of the FCC or FTC laws concerning spoofing caller ID for deceptive purposes? There's a collection agency out there who has my wife's name crossed with someone else's, and they are picking numbers from our area code to present themselves as when calling us (over and over and over.) I of course would like to turn this around on them as they refuse to believe who we say we are. ___ -- Bandwidth and Colocation Provided by http://www.api-digital.com -- AstriCon 2008 - September 22 - 25 Phoenix, Arizona Register Now: http://www.astricon.net asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users Quick note, Congress is attempting to make this practice illegal: http://www.engadget.com/2007/06/29/congress-looking-to-make-caller-id-spoofing-illegal/ http://www.govtrack.us/congress/bill.xpd?tab=summarybill=s110-704 -- Sherwood McGowan VoIP / Telecom Solutions [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ -- Bandwidth and Colocation Provided by http://www.api-digital.com -- AstriCon 2008 - September 22 - 25 Phoenix, Arizona Register Now: http://www.astricon.net asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [asterisk-users] Spoofing CID
Alexander Lopez wrote: I may create an IVR Hell for them, so that I can transfer the calls to, Hey, Its their dime. If you do end up going that route, please share the details, and possibly the code. We could all benefit from a good IVR from hell. I certainly could use one. No, I'm not being sarcastic. -- Alex Balashov Evariste Systems Web: http://www.evaristesys.com/ Tel: (+1) (678) 954-0670 Direct : (+1) (678) 954-0671 Mobile : (+1) (706) 338-8599 ___ -- Bandwidth and Colocation Provided by http://www.api-digital.com -- AstriCon 2008 - September 22 - 25 Phoenix, Arizona Register Now: http://www.astricon.net asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
