Re: [asterisk-users] Switching from FreeBSD to Linux - which distro?
John Novack wrote: Carla Schroder wrote: On Wednesday 06 December 2006 20:12, Lacy Moore - Aspendora wrote: On 12/6/06, John Novack [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Go get the ISO's, and remember to INSTALL EVERYTHING, then you won't run into some gotcha down the road where there is some missing file that needs to be put who knows where. Wow! Are you sure about that? Doesn't seem like an issue to me. yum install foo is easy, and I've always preferred servers that are as lean as possible, rather than all porky with unnecessary packages and services. Someone else mentioned AstLinux, and it is very nice. About 40 megabytes. No lard at all. That may be true for you and those that know Linux and how to respond to a missing file because it wasn't initially installed. For those who don't practice Linux as a religion but simply want to use a telephony application, it works to install everything, and move on to learning Asterisk and all IT'S warts and gotchas, John Novack ___ --Bandwidth and Colocation provided by Easynews.com -- asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users That sounds like a microsoft way of doing things.. install 25X more crap than you will ever use. What ever happened to planning and RTFM? signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature ___ --Bandwidth and Colocation provided by Easynews.com -- asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [asterisk-users] Switching from FreeBSD to Linux - which distro?
Other than for Zap cards, why would you want to switch from *BSD to linux? I don't run * on *BSD, but I've heard it runs very smoothly and stable (probably more than several linux distros). Just curious. Thanks, Daniel -Original Message- From: John Novack [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thu, December 7, 2006 8:42 pm To: asterisk-users@lists.digium.com Subject: Re: [asterisk-users] Switching from FreeBSD to Linux - which distro? Carla Schroder wrote: On Wednesday 06 December 2006 20:12, Lacy Moore - Aspendora wrote: On 12/6/06, John Novack [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Go get the ISO's, and remember to INSTALL EVERYTHING, then you won't run into some gotcha down the road where there is some missing file that needs to be put who knows where. Wow! Are you sure about that? Doesn't seem like an issue to me. yum install foo is easy, and I've always preferred servers that are as lean as possible, rather than all porky with unnecessary packages and services. Someone else mentioned AstLinux, and it is very nice. About 40 megabytes. No lard at all. That may be true for you and those that know Linux and how to respond to a missing file because it wasn't initially installed. For those who don't practice Linux as a religion but simply want to use a telephony application, it works to install everything, and move on to learning Asterisk and all IT'S warts and gotchas, John Novack ___ --Bandwidth and Colocation provided by Easynews.com -- asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users ___ --Bandwidth and Colocation provided by Easynews.com -- asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [asterisk-users] Switching from FreeBSD to Linux - which distro?
Derek Whitten wrote: John Novack wrote: snip That sounds like a microsoft way of doing things.. install 25X more crap than you will ever use. What ever happened to planning and RTFM? I guess it all depends on what the objective is. One can sit around and RTFM and play with oneself or one can get on with the task at hand, in this case learning a telephony application and ITs warts and shortcomings. There is no harm in installing an extra thousand or two files that are never needed and services that aren't run or used Disk space is REALLY cheap, in fact most of the hardware is these days. Time is valuable. everyone has a limited amount of it, so why waste hours or days of it because one file wasn't installed. If you want to discourage potential users of Asterisk, not installing the complete distro is a wonderful way to do it John Novack ___ --Bandwidth and Colocation provided by Easynews.com -- asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users ___ --Bandwidth and Colocation provided by Easynews.com -- asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [asterisk-users] Switching from FreeBSD to Linux - which distro?
Does there seem to be a popular Linux distro folks use specifically for Asterisk? I'd like to move off of FreeBSD but I'm not too familiar with Linux distros. In particular, I'm looking for a free, stable, well supported distro that has a friendly community. Any advice appreciated. CentOS works well for me : http://www.centos.org/ ___ --Bandwidth and Colocation provided by Easynews.com -- asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [asterisk-users] Switching from FreeBSD to Linux - which distro?
On Wed, Dec 06, 2006 at 10:12:25PM -0600, Lacy Moore - Aspendora wrote: On 12/6/06, John Novack [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Go get the ISO's, and remember to INSTALL EVERYTHING, then you won't run into some gotcha down the road where there is some missing file that needs to be put who knows where. Wow! Are you sure about that? That is a workaround for not using the package management system. -- Tzafrir Cohen icq#16849755jabber:[EMAIL PROTECTED] +972-50-7952406 mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.xorcom.com iax:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/tzafrir ___ --Bandwidth and Colocation provided by Easynews.com -- asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [asterisk-users] Switching from FreeBSD to Linux - which distro?
On Wednesday 06 December 2006 20:12, Lacy Moore - Aspendora wrote: On 12/6/06, John Novack [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Go get the ISO's, and remember to INSTALL EVERYTHING, then you won't run into some gotcha down the road where there is some missing file that needs to be put who knows where. Wow! Are you sure about that? Doesn't seem like an issue to me. yum install foo is easy, and I've always preferred servers that are as lean as possible, rather than all porky with unnecessary packages and services. Someone else mentioned AstLinux, and it is very nice. About 40 megabytes. No lard at all. -- ~ Carla Schroder Linux geek and random computer tamer check out my Linux Cookbook! http://www.oreilly.com/catalog/linuxckbk/ best book for sysadmins and power users ~ ___ --Bandwidth and Colocation provided by Easynews.com -- asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [asterisk-users] Switching from FreeBSD to Linux - which distro?
Carla Schroder wrote: On Wednesday 06 December 2006 20:12, Lacy Moore - Aspendora wrote: On 12/6/06, John Novack [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Go get the ISO's, and remember to INSTALL EVERYTHING, then you won't run into some gotcha down the road where there is some missing file that needs to be put who knows where. Wow! Are you sure about that? Doesn't seem like an issue to me. yum install foo is easy, and I've always preferred servers that are as lean as possible, rather than all porky with unnecessary packages and services. Someone else mentioned AstLinux, and it is very nice. About 40 megabytes. No lard at all. That may be true for you and those that know Linux and how to respond to a missing file because it wasn't initially installed. For those who don't practice Linux as a religion but simply want to use a telephony application, it works to install everything, and move on to learning Asterisk and all IT'S warts and gotchas, John Novack ___ --Bandwidth and Colocation provided by Easynews.com -- asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [asterisk-users] Switching from FreeBSD to Linux - which distro?
On Thursday 07 December 2006 17:42, John Novack wrote: Carla Schroder wrote: On Wednesday 06 December 2006 20:12, Lacy Moore - Aspendora wrote: On 12/6/06, John Novack [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Go get the ISO's, and remember to INSTALL EVERYTHING, then you won't run into some gotcha down the road where there is some missing file that needs to be put who knows where. Wow! Are you sure about that? Doesn't seem like an issue to me. yum install foo is easy, and I've always preferred servers that are as lean as possible, rather than all porky with unnecessary packages and services. Someone else mentioned AstLinux, and it is very nice. About 40 megabytes. No lard at all. That may be true for you and those that know Linux and how to respond to a missing file because it wasn't initially installed. For those who don't practice Linux as a religion but simply want to use a telephony application, it works to install everything, and move on to learning Asterisk and all IT'S warts and gotchas, You're saying it's a religion to understand how to administer the operating system on a server? What a novel concept. -- ~ Carla Schroder Linux geek and random computer tamer check out my Linux Cookbook! http://www.oreilly.com/catalog/linuxckbk/ best book for sysadmins and power users ~ ___ --Bandwidth and Colocation provided by Easynews.com -- asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [asterisk-users] Switching from FreeBSD to Linux - which distro?
Hi Carla, Carla Schroder wrote: Debian is my fave, but for Asterisk I use CentOS. It's a free-of-cost clone of Red Hat Enterprise Linux, so it's very stable and reliable, and Asterisk runs great on it. Debian is good too. They have Asterisk packages, but they're generally a little bit old. Source installations work fine. Both have large, active developer and user communities. Avoid Fedora- it's too much of a moving target, and Asterisk installations are always a nightmare. Ubuntu is the darling of the Linux world, but I've had problems with Asterisk on it too. What do you think about Slackware? ___ --Bandwidth and Colocation provided by Easynews.com -- asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
RE: [asterisk-users] Switching from FreeBSD to Linux - which distro?
Hi, I'd second CentOS, it's stable and very well supported. Robert Jenkins. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Carla Schroder Sent: 06 December 2006 00:00 To: asterisk-users@lists.digium.com Subject: Re: [asterisk-users] Switching from FreeBSD to Linux - which distro? On Tuesday 05 December 2006 15:36, Phil Finkler wrote: Does there seem to be a popular Linux distro folks use specifically for Asterisk? I'd like to move off of FreeBSD but I'm not too familiar with Linux distros. In particular, I'm looking for a free, stable, well supported distro that has a friendly community. Any advice appreciated. Sorry for asking a question that I'm sure has been asked thousands of times. Debian is my fave, but for Asterisk I use CentOS. It's a free-of-cost clone of Red Hat Enterprise Linux, so it's very stable and reliable, and Asterisk runs great on it. Debian is good too. They have Asterisk packages, but they're generally a little bit old. Source installations work fine. Both have large, active developer and user communities. Avoid Fedora- it's too much of a moving target, and Asterisk installations are always a nightmare. Ubuntu is the darling of the Linux world, but I've had problems with Asterisk on it too. -- ~ Carla Schroder Linux geek and random computer tamer check out my Linux Cookbook! http://www.oreilly.com/catalog/linuxckbk/ best book for sysadmins and power users ~ ___ --Bandwidth and Colocation provided by Easynews.com -- asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users ___ --Bandwidth and Colocation provided by Easynews.com -- asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [asterisk-users] Switching from FreeBSD to Linux - which distro?
On Wed, Dec 06, 2006 at 09:37:17AM +0100, Norbert Zawodsky wrote: Hi Carla, Carla Schroder wrote: Debian is my fave, but for Asterisk I use CentOS. It's a free-of-cost clone of Red Hat Enterprise Linux, so it's very stable and reliable, and Asterisk runs great on it. Debian is good too. My personal $FAVORITE_DISTRO. They have Asterisk packages, but they're generally a little bit old. Source installations work fine. Both have large, active developer and user communities. Avoid Fedora- it's too much of a moving target, and Asterisk installations are always a nightmare. Another issue with Fedora is the upgrade path: upgrading a Fedora installation practically requires a downtime in the order of magnitude of a working day. Or a completely new reinstallation. And a Fedora system is supported for less than a year. This includes part of the time where it still moves. Ubuntu is the darling of the Linux world, but I've had problems with Asterisk on it too. There are problems with every system. Could you be more specific? What do you think about Slackware? $FAVORITE_DISTRO is generally better, as you are more familiar with it. In that sense there is a point to sticking wiht FreeBSD. -- Tzafrir Cohen icq#16849755jabber:[EMAIL PROTECTED] +972-50-7952406 mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.xorcom.com iax:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/tzafrir ___ --Bandwidth and Colocation provided by Easynews.com -- asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [asterisk-users] Switching from FreeBSD to Linux - which distro?
What do you think about Slackware? Slackware is nice if you want to use a full distro because they use a pretty much vanilla kernel. Additional benefits is very few services are started by default. I use CentOS on almost all general server setups for small businesses and find that there are a bunch of unnecessary services that need to be turned off for optimum performance. Slackware's basic policy is if you need a service started, turn it on yourself. (I used Slackware in the past and would still recommend it for certain applications--Asterisk being one of those). Coming from a BSD background, you might find your way around Slack easier than other distributions. If you want something dedicated to Asterisk, you might want to give Astlinux a look ( http://www.astlinux.org ). Darrick -- Darrick Hartman DJH Solutions, LLC http://www.djhsolutions.com ___ --Bandwidth and Colocation provided by Easynews.com -- asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [asterisk-users] Switching from FreeBSD to Linux - which distro?
SuSE works well On 12/5/06, Phil Finkler [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Does there seem to be a popular Linux distro folks use specifically for Asterisk? I'd like to move off of FreeBSD but I'm not too familiar with Linux distros. In particular, I'm looking for a free, stable, well supported distro that has a friendly community. Any advice appreciated. Sorry for asking a question that I'm sure has been asked thousands of times. Best regards, Phil ___ --Bandwidth and Colocation provided by Easynews.com -- asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users ___ --Bandwidth and Colocation provided by Easynews.com -- asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [asterisk-users] Switching from FreeBSD to Linux - which distro?
Phil Finkler wrote: Does there seem to be a popular Linux distro folks use specifically for Asterisk? I’d like to move off of FreeBSD but I’m not too familiar with Linux distros. In particular, I’m looking for a free, stable, well supported distro that has a friendly community. Any advice appreciated. Sorry for asking a question that I’m sure has been asked thousands of times. Best regards, Phil Of course, this is like asking what is the one true religion I consider Linux a means to an end, don't want to spend days poking around for some cryptic command or configuration issue, so I have settled on CentOS 3.x I had some trouble way back with 4.x, , and saw no real value the later version Go get the ISO's, and remember to INSTALL EVERYTHING, then you won't run into some gotcha down the road where there is some missing file that needs to be put who knows where. Turn off the GUI and have at it. John Novack ___ --Bandwidth and Colocation provided by Easynews.com -- asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [asterisk-users] Switching from FreeBSD to Linux - which distro?
On 12/6/06, John Novack [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Go get the ISO's, and remember to INSTALL EVERYTHING, then you won't run into some gotcha down the road where there is some missing file that needs to be put who knows where. Wow! Are you sure about that? ___ --Bandwidth and Colocation provided by Easynews.com -- asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
[asterisk-users] Switching from FreeBSD to Linux - which distro?
Does there seem to be a popular Linux distro folks use specifically for Asterisk? I'd like to move off of FreeBSD but I'm not too familiar with Linux distros. In particular, I'm looking for a free, stable, well supported distro that has a friendly community. Any advice appreciated. Sorry for asking a question that I'm sure has been asked thousands of times. Best regards, Phil ___ --Bandwidth and Colocation provided by Easynews.com -- asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [asterisk-users] Switching from FreeBSD to Linux - which distro?
I recommend debian, been using it for years now, it was a no brainer to choose this for my asterisk deployments.. A few other people I know have used debian with asterisk with no problems either. On 12/5/06, Phil Finkler [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Does there seem to be a popular Linux distro folks use specifically for Asterisk? I'd like to move off of FreeBSD but I'm not too familiar with Linux distros. In particular, I'm looking for a free, stable, well supported distro that has a friendly community. Any advice appreciated. Sorry for asking a question that I'm sure has been asked thousands of times. Best regards, Phil ___ --Bandwidth and Colocation provided by Easynews.com -- asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users ___ --Bandwidth and Colocation provided by Easynews.com -- asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [asterisk-users] Switching from FreeBSD to Linux - which distro?
On Tue, 2006-12-05 at 18:47 -0500, Mike Garey wrote: I recommend debian, been using it for years now, it was a no brainer to choose this for my asterisk deployments.. A few other people I know have used debian with asterisk with no problems either. Choose Debian, is easy to maintain.. apt-get rocks ! On 12/5/06, Phil Finkler [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Does there seem to be a popular Linux distro folks use specifically for Asterisk? I'd like to move off of FreeBSD but I'm not too familiar with Linux distros. In particular, I'm looking for a free, stable, well supported distro that has a friendly community. Any advice appreciated. Sorry for asking a question that I'm sure has been asked thousands of times. Best regards, Phil ___ --Bandwidth and Colocation provided by Easynews.com -- asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users ___ --Bandwidth and Colocation provided by Easynews.com -- asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users -- Guillermo Salas M. Telconet S.A. Calle 15 y Avenida 24 Esq Edificio Barre #2 Primer Piso Telefono : +593 5 262 8071 Celular : +593 9 985 5138 e-mail : [EMAIL PROTECTED] www : http://www.manta.telconet.net http://www.telcocarrier.net Linux User: 255902 Beat me, whip me, make me use Windows! Please avoid sending me Word or PowerPoint attachments. See http://www.fsf.org/philosophy/no-word-attachments.html Please avoid the Top Posting, see http://es.wikipedia.org/wiki/Top-posting ___ --Bandwidth and Colocation provided by Easynews.com -- asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [asterisk-users] Switching from FreeBSD to Linux - which distro?
On Tuesday 05 December 2006 15:36, Phil Finkler wrote: Does there seem to be a popular Linux distro folks use specifically for Asterisk? I'd like to move off of FreeBSD but I'm not too familiar with Linux distros. In particular, I'm looking for a free, stable, well supported distro that has a friendly community. Any advice appreciated. Sorry for asking a question that I'm sure has been asked thousands of times. Debian is my fave, but for Asterisk I use CentOS. It's a free-of-cost clone of Red Hat Enterprise Linux, so it's very stable and reliable, and Asterisk runs great on it. Debian is good too. They have Asterisk packages, but they're generally a little bit old. Source installations work fine. Both have large, active developer and user communities. Avoid Fedora- it's too much of a moving target, and Asterisk installations are always a nightmare. Ubuntu is the darling of the Linux world, but I've had problems with Asterisk on it too. -- ~ Carla Schroder Linux geek and random computer tamer check out my Linux Cookbook! http://www.oreilly.com/catalog/linuxckbk/ best book for sysadmins and power users ~ ___ --Bandwidth and Colocation provided by Easynews.com -- asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
