Re: [asterisk-users] T38modem in loopback mode does not work on asterisk 1.4.20.1

2009-04-18 Thread David Backeberg
On Sat, Apr 18, 2009 at 10:27 AM, Thomas Kenyon wrote: > I will try this later, it looks straight forward enough. Does Asterisk > 1.6 SendFax command autonegotiate T.38 (in the way callweaver does)? Yes. Of course assuming that it's talking to a device that is T.38 capable. > Can I use a faxmach

Re: [asterisk-users] T38modem in loopback mode does not work on asterisk 1.4.20.1

2009-04-18 Thread Thomas Kenyon
Atis Lezdins wrote: > > Ok, our setup is the following: > > Inbound call arrives from SIP provider to Asterisk 1.4.19 > Asterisk Dials Callweaver (1.2.0 as I recall) on localhost > CallWeaver uses RxFax, which causes call to be switched to T.38, > Asterisk does T.38 passtrough. > CallWeaver execu

Re: [asterisk-users] T38modem in loopback mode does not work on asterisk 1.4.20.1

2009-04-17 Thread Thomas Kenyon
Atis Lezdins wrote: > On Fri, Apr 17, 2009 at 4:31 PM, Michael wrote: The problem is that there is no reliable, or really any viable way to achieve this when using T.38 as the carrier uplink. >>> Could You explain this? I really don't understand Your point. >> On voip-info there is a how

Re: [asterisk-users] T38modem in loopback mode does not work on asterisk 1.4.20.1

2009-04-17 Thread Atis Lezdins
On Fri, Apr 17, 2009 at 4:31 PM, Michael wrote: > >> > The problem is that there is no reliable, or really any viable way to >> > achieve this when using T.38 as the carrier uplink. >> >> Could You explain this? I really don't understand Your point. > > On voip-info there is a how to using T38mode

Re: [asterisk-users] T38modem in loopback mode does not work on asterisk 1.4.20.1

2009-04-17 Thread Michael
> > The problem is that there is no reliable, or really any viable way to > > achieve this when using T.38 as the carrier uplink. > > Could You explain this? I really don't understand Your point. On voip-info there is a how to using T38modem. Congrats to anyone who can get it working. > > The s

Re: [asterisk-users] T38modem in loopback mode does not work on asterisk 1.4.20.1

2009-04-17 Thread Atis Lezdins
On Fri, Apr 17, 2009 at 4:03 PM, Michael wrote: > On Sat, 18 Apr 2009 00:54:07 you wrote: > >> Well, not really a waste of time. As I mentioned - Hylafax has many >> desktop clients, it's better to just write few scripts than to design >> desktop software for your own setup. If You have a need of

Re: [asterisk-users] T38modem in loopback mode does not work on asterisk 1.4.20.1

2009-04-17 Thread Michael
On Sat, 18 Apr 2009 00:54:07 you wrote: > Well, not really a waste of time. As I mentioned - Hylafax has many > desktop clients, it's better to just write few scripts than to design > desktop software for your own setup. If You have a need of sending > faxes, You'll probably need a desktop client

Re: [asterisk-users] T38modem in loopback mode does not work on asterisk 1.4.20.1

2009-04-17 Thread Atis Lezdins
On Fri, Apr 17, 2009 at 1:35 PM, Florian Hackenberger wrote: > On Friday 17 April 2009, Michael wrote: >> Trying to link Hylafax < - > Callweaver or Asterisk is unfortunately >> a waste of time. You need to use the built in fax support and write >> from scratch the necessary scripts and dial plan

Re: [asterisk-users] T38modem in loopback mode does not work on asterisk 1.4.20.1

2009-04-17 Thread Michael
On Fri, 17 Apr 2009 22:35:04 you wrote: > And how do the T.38 calls get to callweaver? Directly from the SIP > provider, or does asterisk forward them to callweaver? Which version of > asterisk (on which distribution) and which version of callweaver are > you using? Directly from a T.38 capable S

Re: [asterisk-users] T38modem in loopback mode does not work on asterisk 1.4.20.1

2009-04-17 Thread Florian Hackenberger
On Friday 17 April 2009, Michael wrote: > Trying to link Hylafax < - > Callweaver or Asterisk is unfortunately > a waste of time. You need to use the built in fax support and write > from scratch the necessary scripts and dial plan to deal with faxes. Ok, that's fine. > I have successfully got a

Re: [asterisk-users] T38modem in loopback mode does not work on asterisk 1.4.20.1

2009-04-17 Thread Michael
On Fri, 17 Apr 2009 21:39:53 Florian Hackenberger wrote: > Could you please describe your setup in more detail? Where does you SIP > provider send FAX calls to? Directly to callweaver or to asterisk 1.4 > which forwards it to call weaver? Do you have hylafax in the mix as > well, or does you callw

Re: [asterisk-users] T38modem in loopback mode does not work on asterisk 1.4.20.1

2009-04-17 Thread Florian Hackenberger
On Thursday 16 April 2009, Atis Lezdins wrote: > I tried T38modem, it works nicely in local setups, but I never got it > working with our SIP provider. Ok, that basically rules t38modem out, because thos SIP provider probably use a T/E1 <-> SIP gateway as well. > As for "stable" Asterisk 1.4, we

Re: [asterisk-users] T38modem in loopback mode does not work on asterisk 1.4.20.1

2009-04-17 Thread Florian Hackenberger
On Wednesday 15 April 2009, David Backeberg wrote: > in sip.conf: > [general] > t38pt_udptl = yes > > in your dialplan > ReceiveFax() and SendFax() > will automatically detect whether it's possible to do fax as T.38, or > it will instead do audio fax over your voip codec of choice. Thank you very

Re: [asterisk-users] T38modem in loopback mode does not work on asterisk 1.4.20.1

2009-04-15 Thread Atis Lezdins
On Tue, Apr 14, 2009 at 4:52 PM, Florian Hackenberger wrote: > On Tuesday 14 April 2009, Michael wrote: >> > asterisk-1.6 with app_fax built-in >> > Try 1.6. You'll be glad you did. >> While I have not tried Asterisk 1.6 because I settled on Callweaver >> at the time (which has native T38 support)

Re: [asterisk-users] T38modem in loopback mode does not work on asterisk 1.4.20.1

2009-04-15 Thread David Backeberg
On Wed, Apr 15, 2009 at 3:29 AM, Florian Hackenberger wrote: > Thanks for the explanation! Sounds all good. There is one remaining > question however. As you mentioned T.30, is app_fax capable of > terminating T.38? Yes although I'm speaking about 1.6. I can't say for certain what is required on

Re: [asterisk-users] T38modem in loopback mode does not work on asterisk 1.4.20.1

2009-04-15 Thread Ian
Sorry for the stupid question, but I think I'm not understanding something. Why can't you use Fax for Asterisk with res_fax and res_fax_digium? Florian Hackenberger a écrit : > Thanks for the explanation! Sounds all good. There is one remaining > question however. As you mentioned T.30, is app_

Re: [asterisk-users] T38modem in loopback mode does not work on asterisk 1.4.20.1

2009-04-15 Thread Florian Hackenberger
On Tuesday 14 April 2009, David Backeberg wrote: > With app_fax integrated into asterisk-1.6, you have an 'infinite' > modem pool that you control through the dial-plan. Using dialplan > variables you provide a filename to save the fax to, and you can use > other dialplan directives to describe wha

Re: [asterisk-users] T38modem in loopback mode does not work on asterisk 1.4.20.1

2009-04-14 Thread Steve Underwood
David Backeberg wrote: > What I was specifically getting at in the context of that response was > a comparison of dynamic modem pool versus fixed-size modem pool. When > faced with the choice between a fixed-size modem pool or one that > would grow or shrink dynamically with demand, I think the dyn

Re: [asterisk-users] T38modem in loopback mode does not work on asterisk 1.4.20.1

2009-04-14 Thread Lee Howard
Steve Underwood wrote: > Lee Howard wrote: > >> David Backeberg wrote: >> >> >>> It may be possible to use hylafax, but >>> I don't know how or why you would. >>> >>> >> The reason *why* is generally due to support issues. >> >> For one, HylaFAX probably has a better T.30 imp

Re: [asterisk-users] T38modem in loopback mode does not work on asterisk 1.4.20.1

2009-04-14 Thread Steve Underwood
Lee Howard wrote: > David Backeberg wrote: > >> It may be possible to use hylafax, but >> I don't know how or why you would. >> > > The reason *why* is generally due to support issues. > > For one, HylaFAX probably has a better T.30 implementation in its Class > 1 driver than does app_fax.

Re: [asterisk-users] T38modem in loopback mode does not work on asterisk 1.4.20.1

2009-04-14 Thread David Backeberg
On Tue, Apr 14, 2009 at 10:46 AM, Lee Howard wrote: > David Backeberg wrote: >> It may be possible to use hylafax, but >> I don't know how or why you would. > > The reason *why* is generally due to support issues. What I was specifically getting at in the context of that response was a comparison

Re: [asterisk-users] T38modem in loopback mode does not work on asterisk 1.4.20.1

2009-04-14 Thread Lee Howard
David Backeberg wrote: > It may be possible to use hylafax, but > I don't know how or why you would. The reason *why* is generally due to support issues. For one, HylaFAX probably has a better T.30 implementation in its Class 1 driver than does app_fax. At least that historically has been true.

Re: [asterisk-users] T38modem in loopback mode does not work on asterisk 1.4.20.1

2009-04-14 Thread David Backeberg
On Tue, Apr 14, 2009 at 9:52 AM, Florian Hackenberger wrote: > With asterisk 1.6, is it possible to use hylafax, or would asterisk > terminate the fax calls itself? With app_fax integrated into asterisk-1.6, you have an 'infinite' modem pool that you control through the dial-plan. Using dialplan

Re: [asterisk-users] T38modem in loopback mode does not work on asterisk 1.4.20.1

2009-04-14 Thread Florian Hackenberger
On Tuesday 14 April 2009, Michael wrote: > > asterisk-1.6 with app_fax built-in > > Try 1.6. You'll be glad you did. > While I have not tried Asterisk 1.6 because I settled on Callweaver > at the time (which has native T38 support), I *strongly* recommend > going with software that has native T38 s

Re: [asterisk-users] T38modem in loopback mode does not work on asterisk 1.4.20.1

2009-04-14 Thread Michael
On Wed, 15 Apr 2009 00:43:45 you wrote: > Now for the part I do know something about. Native asterisk fax > support and native asterisk sip support improved in 1.6. With 1.6 > there is a built-in app_fax module which works quite well for sending > fax over SIP with T.38. I found the configuration

Re: [asterisk-users] T38modem in loopback mode does not work on asterisk 1.4.20.1

2009-04-14 Thread David Backeberg
On Tue, Apr 14, 2009 at 7:11 AM, Michael wrote: > On Tue, 14 Apr 2009 23:00:02 Florian Hackenberger wrote: > >> Can somone spot the problem? Is someone using t38modem with asterisk >> successfully? > The best advice I can offer is to give up now and use Callweaver otherwise you > can spend hours,

Re: [asterisk-users] T38modem in loopback mode does not work on asterisk 1.4.20.1

2009-04-14 Thread Michael
On Tue, 14 Apr 2009 23:00:02 Florian Hackenberger wrote: > Can somone spot the problem? Is someone using t38modem with asterisk > successfully? > > Cheers, > Florian The best advice I can offer is to give up now and use Callweaver otherwise you can spend hours, or days, with no working res

[asterisk-users] T38modem in loopback mode does not work on asterisk 1.4.20.1

2009-04-14 Thread Florian Hackenberger
Hi! I'm trying to get t38modem working and started with the loopback mode. I installed everything according to http://www.voip-info.org/wiki/view/T38modem+configuration+with+Asterisk and used a stock asterisk 1.4.20.1 compiled from source. Openh323, ptlib_unix and t38modem are compiled from sou