Re: [asterisk-users] TDM400P: Lifetime & Replacement

2012-05-08 Thread Greg Woods
On Mon, 2012-05-07 at 10:26 -0500, Russ Meyerriecks wrote:
> There were a few compatability issues with the tdm400's pci interface chip
> and certain motherboards

Interesting idea, but it's been running in this same server with the
same motherboard for at least two years now, and this problem started
only last week.

At this point, I am sure enough that the card has failed that I have
ordered a new base card. If I'm wrong, I will only be out return postage
and 10% restock fee.

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Re: [asterisk-users] TDM400P: Lifetime & Replacement

2012-05-08 Thread Russ Meyerriecks
On Mon, May 07, 2012 at 10:10:24AM -0600, Greg Woods wrote:
> On Mon, 2012-05-07 at 10:26 -0500, Russ Meyerriecks wrote:
> > On Sun, May 06, 2012 at 10:42:16AM -0600, Greg Woods wrote:
> > > I have a Digium TDM400P card that appears to have died. The first noted
> > > symptoms were that dahdi would fail to reload on boot. On closer
> > > inspection, the card looks totally dead; no lights on at all.
> > 
> > Does the device show up in lspci?
> 
> I just checked, and as expected, it does not show up with lspci (all of
> the other PCI devices do).

Greg,

There were a few compatability issues with the tdm400's pci interface chip
and certain motherboards. Before you start writing its eulogy, I would pull
all the modules off and plug it into a separate server to check for lspci
enumeration again.

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Re: [asterisk-users] TDM400P: Lifetime & Replacement

2012-05-07 Thread Greg Woods
On Mon, 2012-05-07 at 10:26 -0500, Russ Meyerriecks wrote:
> On Sun, May 06, 2012 at 10:42:16AM -0600, Greg Woods wrote:
> > I have a Digium TDM400P card that appears to have died. The first noted
> > symptoms were that dahdi would fail to reload on boot. On closer
> > inspection, the card looks totally dead; no lights on at all.
> 
> Does the device show up in lspci?

I just checked, and as expected, it does not show up with lspci (all of
the other PCI devices do).

--Greg



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Re: [asterisk-users] TDM400P: Lifetime & Replacement

2012-05-07 Thread Greg Woods
On Mon, 2012-05-07 at 10:26 -0500, Russ Meyerriecks wrote:
> On Sun, May 06, 2012 at 10:42:16AM -0600, Greg Woods wrote:
> > I have a Digium TDM400P card that appears to have died. The first noted
> > symptoms were that dahdi would fail to reload on boot. On closer
> > inspection, the card looks totally dead; no lights on at all.
> 
> Does the device show up in lspci?

I'll check that when I get home tonight; I didn't try lspci. But it does
NOT show up in dmesg at boot time, which means it probably won't be
there for lspci either.

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Re: [asterisk-users] TDM400P: Lifetime & Replacement

2012-05-07 Thread Russ Meyerriecks
On Sun, May 06, 2012 at 10:42:16AM -0600, Greg Woods wrote:
> I have a Digium TDM400P card that appears to have died. The first noted
> symptoms were that dahdi would fail to reload on boot. On closer
> inspection, the card looks totally dead; no lights on at all.

Does the device show up in lspci?

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Re: [asterisk-users] TDM400P: Lifetime & Replacement

2012-05-06 Thread Greg Woods
On Sun, 2012-05-06 at 12:46 -0400, Andrew Latham wrote:

> 
> Sounds like you did a kernel update and did not rebuild DAHDI.

I haven't done a kernel update on this particular machine in quite some
time, since long before the card started failing. It is still running
Fedora 14, so there aren't even any kernel updates available for it.

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Re: [asterisk-users] TDM400P: Lifetime & Replacement

2012-05-06 Thread Andrew Latham
On Sun, May 6, 2012 at 12:42 PM, Greg Woods  wrote:
> I have a Digium TDM400P card that appears to have died. The first noted
> symptoms were that dahdi would fail to reload on boot. On closer
> inspection, the card looks totally dead; no lights on at all. I have
> tried moving it to a different PCI slot, and removing the other PCI card
> (a 3com 10/100 NIC) completely.  I have not tried removing the PCI-E
> graphics card, of course, because I can't boot the system without it,
> but that is unlikely to be fruitful anyway.
>
> So the questions are: first, what is the expected lifetime of one of
> these cards? It just passed its 5th birthday. Is that as long as it
> could be expected to last?
>
> Second, since the parts of this card are very expensive, I am wondering
> if these symptoms likely mean that the main board of the card is dead,
> but the FXS and FXO modules might still be good. In that case, I could
> just get a new main card and move the modules to the new main card. The
> problem is that I can't find any TDM400P cards anywhere, all I can find
> are TDM410P's. Will the modules I have (assuming they are still good)
> work with a TDM410P?
>
> Last question: the TDM410 card is available in PCI and PCIx1 forms. I do
> have a free PCIx1 slot. Is there any advantage in one over the other?
>
> Thanks,
> --Greg

Sounds like you did a kernel update and did not rebuild DAHDI.

I have never witnessed a failed Tormenta or Digium card.  I have read
about them.

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Re: [asterisk-users] TDM400P: Lifetime & Replacement

2012-05-06 Thread Kevin P. Fleming

On 05/06/2012 11:42 AM, Greg Woods wrote:

Second, since the parts of this card are very expensive, I am wondering
if these symptoms likely mean that the main board of the card is dead,
but the FXS and FXO modules might still be good. In that case, I could
just get a new main card and move the modules to the new main card. The
problem is that I can't find any TDM400P cards anywhere, all I can find
are TDM410P's. Will the modules I have (assuming they are still good)
work with a TDM410P?


Yes, the module are compatible with a TDM410P, or any other Digium card 
supporting analog modules except the TDM2400P.


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[asterisk-users] TDM400P: Lifetime & Replacement

2012-05-06 Thread Greg Woods
I have a Digium TDM400P card that appears to have died. The first noted
symptoms were that dahdi would fail to reload on boot. On closer
inspection, the card looks totally dead; no lights on at all. I have
tried moving it to a different PCI slot, and removing the other PCI card
(a 3com 10/100 NIC) completely.  I have not tried removing the PCI-E
graphics card, of course, because I can't boot the system without it,
but that is unlikely to be fruitful anyway.

So the questions are: first, what is the expected lifetime of one of
these cards? It just passed its 5th birthday. Is that as long as it
could be expected to last?

Second, since the parts of this card are very expensive, I am wondering
if these symptoms likely mean that the main board of the card is dead,
but the FXS and FXO modules might still be good. In that case, I could
just get a new main card and move the modules to the new main card. The
problem is that I can't find any TDM400P cards anywhere, all I can find
are TDM410P's. Will the modules I have (assuming they are still good)
work with a TDM410P?

Last question: the TDM410 card is available in PCI and PCIx1 forms. I do
have a free PCIx1 slot. Is there any advantage in one over the other?

Thanks,
--Greg



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