Re: [asterisk-users] Testing from where number is...

2011-03-04 Thread A J Stiles
On Thursday 03 Mar 2011, Piotr Górski wrote:
 As free I mean no subscription. I can write AGI that will query
 numberingplans.com - that's not a problem... but I can query site only 20
 times a day without a subscription... So it's not free.

Well, free is as free does  :)

For the time being, keep making your 20 free queries per IP address per day, 
and build up a local MySQL database.  Populate it also from any other data 
sources you have available  (maybe you have letters with addresses and phone 
numbers? .)  Then have your AGI script always look in the local database 
first.  If what you need is not in there, and you still have some free 
queries remaining today  (even this information can be held within the 
database),  query numberingplans.com and save the result in your database.  
If you have run out of free queries, then you'll have to return something 
less precise  (just a country, perhaps; this information at least should be 
in your phone directory).

I can tell you now for free that 44 is the code for the UK; and UK numbers 
beginning with (0)7 are mobiles, (0)20 is London and (0)28 is Northern 
Ireland  :)

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Re: [asterisk-users] Testing from where number is...

2011-03-04 Thread Benny Amorsen
Piotr Górski pi...@prnet.pl writes:

 So how to bill customers? Number portability makes it pretty impossible...

In the US, you pay the same to call a cell phone as you pay to call any
other phone. The callee pays for the airtime. This is a sensible
arrangement, as it allows for number portability and price competition.

Alas, Europe chose to pass the costs onto the caller, without even
making it reasonably possible for the caller to know whether he is
calling a cell phone or not! The Danish number plan in particular is
completely insane.


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Re: [asterisk-users] Testing from where number is...

2011-03-03 Thread Piotr Górski
Something free?

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 Hi!

 My customer want's to allow calls to landlines in EU and US and disallow
 calls to cells in EU. Rest of countries are blocked.

 Country blocking is easy... Is there a service that allows checking phone
 number? Maybe some specific Enum? I ask for number and server responds with
 info, for example: Cell Phone, Belgium or Land Line, Germany.

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Re: [asterisk-users] Testing from where number is...

2011-03-03 Thread Danny Nicholas
To “beat the dead horse”, if you want it “free”, write an AGI…

 

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Something free?

 

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Hi!

My customer want's to allow calls to landlines in EU and US and disallow
calls to cells in EU. Rest of countries are blocked.

Country blocking is easy... Is there a service that allows checking phone
number? Maybe some specific Enum? I ask for number and server responds with
info, for example: Cell Phone, Belgium or Land Line, Germany.

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Re: [asterisk-users] Testing from where number is...

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Re: [asterisk-users] Testing from where number is...

2011-03-03 Thread Piotr Górski
As free I mean no subscription. I can write AGI that will query
numberingplans.com - that's not a problem... but I can query site only 20
times a day without a subscription... So it's not free.


Z poważaniem,
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CONCEPT MUSIC ART SP. Z O.O.
ul.Dauna 70
30-629 Kraków
http://www.cma.pl
pi...@prnet.pl
GSM: +48 609 127 370
Faks: +48 12 444 1051


2011/3/3 Danny Nicholas da...@debsinc.com

  To beat the dead horse, if you want it free, write an AGI...


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 Something free?



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 www.numberingplans.com




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 Hi!

 My customer want's to allow calls to landlines in EU and US and disallow
 calls to cells in EU. Rest of countries are blocked.

 Country blocking is easy... Is there a service that allows checking phone
 number? Maybe some specific Enum? I ask for number and server responds with
 info, for example: Cell Phone, Belgium or Land Line, Germany.

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Re: [asterisk-users] Testing from where number is...

2011-03-03 Thread Danny Nicholas
Not having an in-depth knowledge of how EU numbering works, I would still
suggest that you could get pretty far with the numberingplans AGI if you
made a database that blocked out the number once it came up as a cell.  In
the U.S. cell phones have their own local code, IE 205616 is going to
be a cell so you can eliminate 205-616- thru 205-616-.

 

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Sent: Thursday, March 03, 2011 2:34 PM
To: Asterisk Users Mailing List - Non-Commercial Discussion
Subject: Re: [asterisk-users] Testing from where number is...

 

As free I mean no subscription. I can write AGI that will query
numberingplans.com - that's not a problem... but I can query site only 20
times a day without a subscription... So it's not free.

 


Z poważaniem,
Piotr Górski,
CONCEPT MUSIC ART SP. Z O.O.
ul.Dauna 70
30-629 Kraków
http://www.cma.pl
pi...@prnet.pl
GSM: +48 609 127 370
Faks: +48 12 444 1051



2011/3/3 Danny Nicholas da...@debsinc.com

To beat the dead horse, if you want it free, write an AGI.

 

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Sent: Thursday, March 03, 2011 1:58 PM
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Subject: Re: [asterisk-users] Testing from where number is...

 

Something free?

 

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To: asterisk-users@lists.digium.com
Subject: [asterisk-users] Testing from where number is...

Hi!

My customer want's to allow calls to landlines in EU and US and disallow
calls to cells in EU. Rest of countries are blocked.

Country blocking is easy... Is there a service that allows checking phone
number? Maybe some specific Enum? I ask for number and server responds with
info, for example: Cell Phone, Belgium or Land Line, Germany.

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Re: [asterisk-users] Testing from where number is...

2011-03-03 Thread Steven Howes
On 3 Mar 2011, at 20:53, Danny Nicholas wrote:
 Not having an in-depth knowledge of how EU numbering works

Sadly there is no 'EU numbering'. Europe isn't a country, thus doesn't share 
any dial plan. There appears to be some tendency towards having a '7' at the 
front of a mobile number, but it's far from universal. Each telco/regulating 
body will probably supply a list of codes. OFCOM in the UK do. Failing that, 
putting the country code (e.g. +44) into google gives a fairly rough outline 
for each country.

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Re: [asterisk-users] Testing from where number is...

2011-03-03 Thread jon pounder

On 03/03/2011 03:53 PM, Danny Nicholas wrote:


Not having an in-depth knowledge of how EU numbering works, I would 
still suggest that you could get pretty far with the numberingplans 
AGI if you made a database that blocked out the number once it came up 
as a cell.  In the U.S. cell phones have their own local code, IE 
205616 is going to be a cell so you can eliminate 205-616- 
thru 205-616-.





with number portability in north america, even knowing the npa npx 
doesn't really help you, you can port a landline to a cell or vice 
versa, you can tell what carrier/media the number was originally 
allocated from but if it was ever ported that information is meaningless.


Granted not a lot of people port numbers since you still have to argue 
to get it done around here (in Canada) but its been the law for several 
years if its still a local exchange the porting costs $30 and they have 
to do it if you ask.







*From:*asterisk-users-boun...@lists.digium.com 
[mailto:asterisk-users-boun...@lists.digium.com] *On Behalf Of *Piotr 
Górski

*Sent:* Thursday, March 03, 2011 2:34 PM
*To:* Asterisk Users Mailing List - Non-Commercial Discussion
*Subject:* Re: [asterisk-users] Testing from where number is...

As free I mean no subscription. I can write AGI that will query 
numberingplans.com http://numberingplans.com - that's not a 
problem... but I can query site only 20 times a day without a 
subscription... So it's not free.



Z poważaniem,
Piotr Górski,
CONCEPT MUSIC ART SP. Z O.O.
ul.Dauna 70
30-629 Kraków
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pi...@prnet.pl mailto:pi...@prnet.pl
GSM: +48 609 127 370
Faks: +48 12 444 1051

2011/3/3 Danny Nicholas da...@debsinc.com mailto:da...@debsinc.com

To beat the dead horse, if you want it free, write an AGI...



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*Sent:* Thursday, March 03, 2011 1:58 PM
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*Subject:* Re: [asterisk-users] Testing from where number is...

Something free?

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Subject: [asterisk-users] Testing from where number is...

Hi!

My customer want's to allow calls to landlines in EU and US and disallow
calls to cells in EU. Rest of countries are blocked.

Country blocking is easy... Is there a service that allows checking phone
number? Maybe some specific Enum? I ask for number and server responds 
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Re: [asterisk-users] Testing from where number is...

2011-03-03 Thread Piotr Górski
So how to bill customers? Number portability makes it pretty impossible...

W dniu 3 marca 2011 22:09 użytkownik jon pounder j...@inline.net napisał:

  On 03/03/2011 03:53 PM, Danny Nicholas wrote:

  Not having an in-depth knowledge of how EU numbering works, I would still
 suggest that you could get pretty far with the numberingplans AGI if you
 made a database that blocked out the number once it came up as a cell.  In
 the U.S. cell phones have their own local code, IE 205616 is going to
 be a cell so you can eliminate 205-616- thru 205-616-.



 with number portability in north america, even knowing the npa npx doesn't
 really help you, you can port a landline to a cell or vice versa, you can
 tell what carrier/media the number was originally allocated from but if it
 was ever ported that information is meaningless.

 Granted not a lot of people port numbers since you still have to argue to
 get it done around here (in Canada) but its been the law for several years
 if its still a local exchange the porting costs $30 and they have to do it
 if you ask.





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 *To:* Asterisk Users Mailing List - Non-Commercial Discussion
 *Subject:* Re: [asterisk-users] Testing from where number is...



 As free I mean no subscription. I can write AGI that will query
 numberingplans.com - that's not a problem... but I can query site only 20
 times a day without a subscription... So it's not free.




 Z poważaniem,
 Piotr Górski,
 CONCEPT MUSIC ART SP. Z O.O.
 ul.Dauna 70
 30-629 Kraków
 http://www.cma.pl
 pi...@prnet.pl
 GSM: +48 609 127 370
 Faks: +48 12 444 1051

  2011/3/3 Danny Nicholas da...@debsinc.com

 To beat the dead horse, if you want it free, write an AGI...


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 *Sent:* Thursday, March 03, 2011 1:58 PM
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 Hi!

 My customer want's to allow calls to landlines in EU and US and disallow
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Re: [asterisk-users] Testing from where number is...

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Re: [asterisk-users] Testing from where number is...

2011-03-03 Thread Andrew Joakimsen
2011/3/3 Piotr Górski pi...@prnet.pl:
 Something free?

If your provider provides a proper rate table you will pretty much
know which is mobile and which is fixed line and assuming their
rates are accurate I assume your company wouldn't care if you allowed
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[asterisk-users] Testing from where number is...

2011-03-02 Thread Piotr Górski

Hi!

My customer want's to allow calls to landlines in EU and US and disallow 
calls to cells in EU. Rest of countries are blocked.


Country blocking is easy... Is there a service that allows checking 
phone number? Maybe some specific Enum? I ask for number and server 
responds with info, for example: Cell Phone, Belgium or Land Line, 
Germany.


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Re: [asterisk-users] Testing from where number is...

2011-03-02 Thread Faisal Hanif
www.numberingplans.com



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[mailto:asterisk-users-boun...@lists.digium.com] On Behalf Of Piotr Górski
Sent: Thursday, March 03, 2011 12:02 PM
To: asterisk-users@lists.digium.com
Subject: [asterisk-users] Testing from where number is...

Hi!

My customer want's to allow calls to landlines in EU and US and disallow
calls to cells in EU. Rest of countries are blocked.

Country blocking is easy... Is there a service that allows checking phone
number? Maybe some specific Enum? I ask for number and server responds with
info, for example: Cell Phone, Belgium or Land Line, Germany.

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Piotr Gorski

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