Re: [asterisk-users] USB dahdi fxo ?

2019-12-14 Thread Ira
Title: Re: [asterisk-users] USB dahdi fxo ?


Hello Eric,

Saturday, December 14, 2019, 1:06:21 PM, you wrote:

Eric> People make it overly complicated.

Not sure complicated is the correct word. I don't find it complicated, I just usually don't remember what FXO and FXS stand for. I guess the O and S are Office and Station but for most of us who haven't yet memorized that, remembering which is which is the problem. For me at least, he need to know comes up so infrequently that every time I have to look it up again. I knew it in 2005 when I first installed Asterisk and and had to figure out if I needed red or green cards, red in my case and then again earlier this year when I was considering upgrading my Asterisk computer.

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Re: [asterisk-users] USB dahdi fxo ?

2019-12-14 Thread Eric Wieling

People make it overly complicated.

Things which provide dialtone are plugged into FXO ports.
   Phone lines
   PBX analog extensions

Things which expect to be provided with dialtone are plugged into FXS ports.
   Analog Phones
   Fax Machines

FXO ports can handle the 90 volt ring singnal
FXS ports often get destroyed by a 90 volt ring signal


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Re: [asterisk-users] USB dahdi fxo ?

2019-12-14 Thread Greg Troxel
sean darcy  writes:

> But the dreaded FXO/FXS issue. It's like trying to remember linear algebra.
>
> If I'm plugging the line from analog phone system into the 202, which
> then routes it to asterisk, I'm plugging the line into an FXS port ,
> correct?
>
> The line from the phone company is plugged into the FXO port. And
> since I'm not connecting the 202 to the phone company , I don't need
> one. Correct?

Yes, that's correct.

FX stands for foreign exchange, and the letter on a port denotes the
type of the thing that attaches to it.  So it's FX "S"tation and FX
"O"ffice.

The easy way is to note tht most VOIP adaptors (for non-PBX use) have 1
or 2 FXS ports, for plugging in analog phones, and a FXO port is less
usual.

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Re: [asterisk-users] USB dahdi fxo ?

2019-12-14 Thread sean darcy

On 12/14/19 11:29 AM, Greg Troxel wrote:

sean darcy  writes:


There is also the ObiHai OBi202 with an OBiLine, which provides an FXO
port remoted over SIP.  (I am not sure if this is discontinued.)


"FXO port remoted over SIP"?

I have an analog phone system. I can use the obi202 to connect the
system to asterisk ? That is, the 202 will connect a outgoing call
from one of its phone ports to asterisk, and connect an incoming call
from asterisk to that same phone port ?


The obi202 is sort of a mini pbx itself.  It has 4 slots for programming
SIP service providers (ITSP and SP, split, but four of each).  Then
there are call routing strings you can program to tell it what to do.

On mine, I have three Service Providers configured for SIP, all with
ITSP profile A.  Basically, PH (first FXS) has a sip login to asterisk
via SP2, and a "primary service" of the SP2.  So while I can dial **N to
make it do other things (an obi thing), if I pick it up and dial my
hello world extension it works.  PH2 is similar but on SP3.

Then, I have another sip login on SP1, for the FXO port, and an inbound
call route to sp1(NN) - just to have a dialplan destination for
incoming calls.  When the POTS line rings, asterisk gets an INVITE and
can route it back out to PH, or whatever.  I have set the 'spoof
callerid" flag on the obi, so that the callerid from POTS is passed to
asterisk as the origin.

On SP1, I have inbound call route set to "li", so that calls from
asterisk go out the POTS line.

I asked on the list earlier, I think, about the wisdom of separate SIP
logins to logically separate these, vs trying to mulitplex based on
digitstrings.  I concluded that especially given that I had no need for
more service providers in the obi, that I might as well assign SP1/2/3
to LI/PH/PH2, and be able to tell the obi "calls arriving on SP3 just go
to ph2" rather than having to sort inbound calls by destination (which I
suspect is doable).  There is more complexity already inherent in the
system than seems fun, so I am tending to reduce it when it doesn't cost
me funtionality.

I have encountered the dreaded spurious touch tone problem, in a way
where they keep going.  I believe this is due to confusion about
signaling mode and talk-off, and have set the obi explicitly to RFC2833.
That seems to work, but I'm not sure.


BTW, the 202 is one sale today at Amazon !


Keep in mind that the 202 provides two FXS ports.  You need the OBiLINE
also (plugs into USB port on 202) to get an FXO port.The FXS 



This is spectacular. Thanks for all the info.

But the dreaded FXO/FXS issue. It's like trying to remember linear algebra.

If I'm plugging the line from analog phone system into the 202, which 
then routes it to asterisk, I'm plugging the line into an FXS port , 
correct?


The line from the phone company is plugged into the FXO port. And since 
I'm not connecting the 202 to the phone company , I don't need one. Correct?


Sigh.

sean



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Re: [asterisk-users] USB dahdi fxo ?

2019-12-14 Thread Greg Troxel
sean darcy  writes:

>> There is also the ObiHai OBi202 with an OBiLine, which provides an FXO
>> port remoted over SIP.  (I am not sure if this is discontinued.)
>
> "FXO port remoted over SIP"?
>
> I have an analog phone system. I can use the obi202 to connect the
> system to asterisk ? That is, the 202 will connect a outgoing call
> from one of its phone ports to asterisk, and connect an incoming call
> from asterisk to that same phone port ?

The obi202 is sort of a mini pbx itself.  It has 4 slots for programming
SIP service providers (ITSP and SP, split, but four of each).  Then
there are call routing strings you can program to tell it what to do.

On mine, I have three Service Providers configured for SIP, all with
ITSP profile A.  Basically, PH (first FXS) has a sip login to asterisk
via SP2, and a "primary service" of the SP2.  So while I can dial **N to
make it do other things (an obi thing), if I pick it up and dial my
hello world extension it works.  PH2 is similar but on SP3.

Then, I have another sip login on SP1, for the FXO port, and an inbound
call route to sp1(NN) - just to have a dialplan destination for
incoming calls.  When the POTS line rings, asterisk gets an INVITE and
can route it back out to PH, or whatever.  I have set the 'spoof
callerid" flag on the obi, so that the callerid from POTS is passed to
asterisk as the origin.

On SP1, I have inbound call route set to "li", so that calls from
asterisk go out the POTS line.

I asked on the list earlier, I think, about the wisdom of separate SIP
logins to logically separate these, vs trying to mulitplex based on
digitstrings.  I concluded that especially given that I had no need for
more service providers in the obi, that I might as well assign SP1/2/3
to LI/PH/PH2, and be able to tell the obi "calls arriving on SP3 just go
to ph2" rather than having to sort inbound calls by destination (which I
suspect is doable).  There is more complexity already inherent in the
system than seems fun, so I am tending to reduce it when it doesn't cost
me funtionality.

I have encountered the dreaded spurious touch tone problem, in a way
where they keep going.  I believe this is due to confusion about
signaling mode and talk-off, and have set the obi explicitly to RFC2833.
That seems to work, but I'm not sure.

> BTW, the 202 is one sale today at Amazon !

Keep in mind that the 202 provides two FXS ports.  You need the OBiLINE
also (plugs into USB port on 202) to get an FXO port.

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Re: [asterisk-users] USB dahdi fxo ?

2019-12-14 Thread sean darcy

On 12/13/19 9:28 PM, Greg Troxel wrote:

sean darcy  writes:


I'm moving asterisk to a laptop, so can't use the dahdi board. Is
there any supported USB dahdi device ? I see the Sangoma USBfxo
device, but the dahdi driver no longer supports it. Anything else ?


There is also the ObiHai OBi202 with an OBiLine, which provides an FXO
port remoted over SIP.  (I am not sure if this is discontinued.)



"FXO port remoted over SIP"?

I have an analog phone system. I can use the obi202 to connect the 
system to asterisk ? That is, the 202 will connect a outgoing call from 
one of its phone ports to asterisk, and connect an incoming call from 
asterisk to that same phone port ?


BTW, the 202 is one sale today at Amazon !

sean


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Re: [asterisk-users] USB dahdi fxo ?

2019-12-13 Thread Greg Troxel
sean darcy  writes:

> I'm moving asterisk to a laptop, so can't use the dahdi board. Is
> there any supported USB dahdi device ? I see the Sangoma USBfxo
> device, but the dahdi driver no longer supports it. Anything else ?

There is also the ObiHai OBi202 with an OBiLine, which provides an FXO
port remoted over SIP.  (I am not sure if this is discontinued.)

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Re: [asterisk-users] USB dahdi fxo ?

2019-12-13 Thread Steve Edwards

On Fri, 13 Dec 2019, sean darcy wrote:

I'm moving asterisk to a laptop, so can't use the dahdi board. Is there any 
supported USB dahdi device ? I see the Sangoma USBfxo device, but the dahdi 
driver no longer supports it. Anything else ?


How about something like the ancient Ethernet based Sipura 3000?

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[asterisk-users] USB dahdi fxo ?

2019-12-13 Thread sean darcy
I'm moving asterisk to a laptop, so can't use the dahdi board. Is there 
any supported USB dahdi device ? I see the Sangoma USBfxo device, but 
the dahdi driver no longer supports it. Anything else ?


sean


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