Re: [asterisk-users] Using SIP stack within Asterisk to reboot phones - Possible?

2010-12-28 Thread Damian Ryszka
Dnia Mon, 27 Dec 2010 14:30:37 -0500
Bruce B bruceb...@gmail.com napisaƂ(a):

 That is all I see and the phone is not restarted.

I have the same problem with SPA508G and I think that there a bug in
authorization - when I set Auth Resync-Reboot: No, I'm able to
reset the phone.

When I set Auth Resync-Reboot: Yes, I can see, that the phone is
receiving notify in syslog and try to do auth:

Dec 28 09:02:03 *.*.*.* [1]SipNotifyCmd 8
Dec 28 09:02:03 *.*.*.* SIP: Challenge NOTIFY


On asterisk I can see:

0.00 asterisk - phone SIP Request: NOTIFY
sip:t...@phone:5060 

0.012148 phone - asterisk
  SIP Status: 401 Unauthorized

As far i know, asterisk should continue digest authorization
process at this point.

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Re: [asterisk-users] Using SIP stack within Asterisk to reboot phones - Possible?

2010-12-28 Thread Olivier
2010/12/27 Bruce B bruceb...@gmail.com

 Hi Everyone,

 I use Asterisk for regularPBX use it's made for. But I want to take it a
 bit further and use it at cmmand level to be able to send SIP notifies to
 restart a phone


Why would you need to restart a phone that is not registered yet ?
For me, the first thing a SIP phone will try to do is to register itself,
and then somehow restart.


 or take advantage of a phone's UPnP capabilities. Is Asterisk capable of
 that? If so, what is a simple SIP reboot message like and how can I invoke
 it from a Asterisk CLI?

 If Asterisk is not the best tool for this purpose what is a very simple to
 implement SIP stack out there that can do this?

 Thanks,

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[asterisk-users] Using SIP stack within Asterisk to reboot phones - Possible?

2010-12-27 Thread Bruce B
Hi Everyone,

I use Asterisk for regularPBX use it's made for. But I want to take it a bit
further and use it at cmmand level to be able to send SIP notifies to
restart a phone or take advantage of a phone's UPnP capabilities. Is
Asterisk capable of that? If so, what is a simple SIP reboot message like
and how can I invoke it from a Asterisk CLI?

If Asterisk is not the best tool for this purpose what is a very simple to
implement SIP stack out there that can do this?

Thanks,
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Re: [asterisk-users] Using SIP stack within Asterisk to reboot phones -Possible?

2010-12-27 Thread Danny Nicholas
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[mailto:asterisk-users-boun...@lists.digium.com] On Behalf Of Bruce B
Sent: Monday, December 27, 2010 12:08 PM
To: Asterisk Users Mailing List - Non-Commercial Discussion
Subject: [asterisk-users] Using SIP stack within Asterisk to reboot phones
-Possible?

 

Hi Everyone,

 

I use Asterisk for regularPBX use it's made for. But I want to take it a bit
further and use it at cmmand level to be able to send SIP notifies to
restart a phone or take advantage of a phone's UPnP capabilities. Is
Asterisk capable of that? If so, what is a simple SIP reboot message like
and how can I invoke it from a Asterisk CLI?

 

If Asterisk is not the best tool for this purpose what is a very simple to
implement SIP stack out there that can do this?

 

Thanks,

 

On Polycom phones, you can do sip notify foo xxx and it will reboot that
phone, when foo is set up per the following link

http://www.voip-info.org/wiki/index.php?page=Asterisk+config+sip_notify.conf

 

I assume it will reset any phone that responds to the check-sync command,
but since I only have Polycom's, this is just a guess.

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Re: [asterisk-users] Using SIP stack within Asterisk to reboot phones - Possible?

2010-12-27 Thread Kevin P. Fleming

On 12/27/2010 12:08 PM, Bruce B wrote:

Hi Everyone,

I use Asterisk for regularPBX use it's made for. But I want to take it a
bit further and use it at cmmand level to be able to send SIP notifies
to restart a phone or take advantage of a phone's UPnP capabilities. Is
Asterisk capable of that? If so, what is a simple SIP reboot message
like and how can I invoke it from a Asterisk CLI?

If Asterisk is not the best tool for this purpose what is a very simple
to implement SIP stack out there that can do this?


The very first hit when I did a Google search for Asterisk SIP notify 
was the voip-info page that documents exactly what you are looking for.


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Re: [asterisk-users] Using SIP stack within Asterisk to reboot phones - Possible?

2010-12-27 Thread Andrew Latham
On Mon, Dec 27, 2010 at 3:08 PM, Bruce B bruceb...@gmail.com wrote:
 Hi Everyone,
 I use Asterisk for regularPBX use it's made for. But I want to take it a bit
 further and use it at cmmand level to be able to send SIP notifies to
 restart a phone or take advantage of a phone's UPnP capabilities. Is
 Asterisk capable of that? If so, what is a simple SIP reboot message like
 and how can I invoke it from a Asterisk CLI?
 If Asterisk is not the best tool for this purpose what is a very simple to
 implement SIP stack out there that can do this?
 Thanks,


To restart phone at extension 1234
cli sip notify polycom-check-cfg 1234

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Re: [asterisk-users] Using SIP stack within Asterisk to reboot phones - Possible?

2010-12-27 Thread Andrew Latham
On Mon, Dec 27, 2010 at 3:33 PM, Kevin P. Fleming kpflem...@digium.com wrote:
 On 12/27/2010 12:08 PM, Bruce B wrote:

 Hi Everyone,

 I use Asterisk for regularPBX use it's made for. But I want to take it a
 bit further and use it at cmmand level to be able to send SIP notifies
 to restart a phone or take advantage of a phone's UPnP capabilities. Is
 Asterisk capable of that? If so, what is a simple SIP reboot message
 like and how can I invoke it from a Asterisk CLI?

 If Asterisk is not the best tool for this purpose what is a very simple
 to implement SIP stack out there that can do this?

 The very first hit when I did a Google search for Asterisk SIP notify was
 the voip-info page that documents exactly what you are looking for.

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 Digium, Inc. | Director of Software Technologies
 445 Jan Davis Drive NW - Huntsville, AL 35806 - USA
 skype: kpfleming | jabber: kflem...@digium.com
 Check us out at www.digium.com  www.asterisk.org

or https://wiki.asterisk.org/wiki/display/AST/ManagerAction_SIPnotify
also has accurate and up to date info.

~~~ Andrew lathama Latham lath...@gmail.com ~~~

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Re: [asterisk-users] Using SIP stack within Asterisk to reboot phones - Possible?

2010-12-27 Thread Kai-Uwe Jensen
Lots of good info and pointers so far. But do keep in mind that not all
phones will automatically reboot just because you sent it a check-sync or
resync event with the sip notify command.

I vaguely remember that for e.g. the Polycoms some other condition had to be
true: either the phone's config file on the ftp/tftp server had to have a
newer time-stamp than the one that was downloaded during the phone's last
boot, or a config option had to be set to a non-default value to make the
phone reboot unconditionally upon receiving the SIP notify, regardless of
the config file's modification date.
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Re: [asterisk-users] Using SIP stack within Asterisk to reboot phones - Possible?

2010-12-27 Thread Bruce B
Thanks Kai-Uwe and everyone else. I have seen all those examples and I am
exploring the sip_notify.conf file now which makes things more clear to me.

However, when sending a SIP notify to a phone that is not registered to
Asterisk via it's IP address should I expect to receive a success of fail
packet back or that is not how SIP Notify works?

*sip notify aastra-check-cfg 192.168.0.5*
*Sending NOTIFY of type 'aastra-check-cfg' to '192.168.0.5'*
*
*
That is all I see and the phone is not restarted. There might be a few
things different about Aastra phones to get them accept SIP Notifies and I
would like to hear your experience about it and what features and notifies
are available to me as it pretains particulary to Aastra phones.

P.S. Are these SIP notifies anything different than simple HTTP get or XML
push and receive or do they require a sip stack or a program like Asterisk
and it's much more complicated than I think? I want to get a simple page
where some phone controls can be done without relying on a heavy program
like Asterisk but again if it get's too complicated I won't mind using
Asterisk for this purpose. Just want to know my options.

Thanks again,

On Mon, Dec 27, 2010 at 1:59 PM, Kai-Uwe Jensen kujen...@gmail.com wrote:

 Lots of good info and pointers so far. But do keep in mind that not all
 phones will automatically reboot just because you sent it a check-sync or
 resync event with the sip notify command.

 I vaguely remember that for e.g. the Polycoms some other condition had to
 be true: either the phone's config file on the ftp/tftp server had to have a
 newer time-stamp than the one that was downloaded during the phone's last
 boot, or a config option had to be set to a non-default value to make the
 phone reboot unconditionally upon receiving the SIP notify, regardless of
 the config file's modification date.

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Re: [asterisk-users] Using SIP stack within Asterisk to reboot phones - Possible?

2010-12-27 Thread Danny Nicholas
From: asterisk-users-boun...@lists.digium.com
[mailto:asterisk-users-boun...@lists.digium.com] On Behalf Of Bruce B
Sent: Monday, December 27, 2010 1:31 PM
To: Asterisk Users Mailing List - Non-Commercial Discussion
Subject: Re: [asterisk-users] Using SIP stack within Asterisk to reboot
phones - Possible?

 

Thanks Kai-Uwe and everyone else. I have seen all those examples and I am
exploring the sip_notify.conf file now which makes things more clear to me.

 

However, when sending a SIP notify to a phone that is not registered to
Asterisk via it's IP address should I expect to receive a success of fail
packet back or that is not how SIP Notify works?

 

sip notify aastra-check-cfg 192.168.0.5

Sending NOTIFY of type 'aastra-check-cfg' to '192.168.0.5'

 

That is all I see and the phone is not restarted. There might be a few
things different about Aastra phones to get them accept SIP Notifies and I
would like to hear your experience about it and what features and notifies
are available to me as it pretains particulary to Aastra phones.

 

P.S. Are these SIP notifies anything different than simple HTTP get or XML
push and receive or do they require a sip stack or a program like Asterisk
and it's much more complicated than I think? I want to get a simple page
where some phone controls can be done without relying on a heavy program
like Asterisk but again if it get's too complicated I won't mind using
Asterisk for this purpose. Just want to know my options.

 

Thanks again,

 

On Mon, Dec 27, 2010 at 1:59 PM, Kai-Uwe Jensen kujen...@gmail.com wrote:

Lots of good info and pointers so far. But do keep in mind that not all
phones will automatically reboot just because you sent it a check-sync or
resync event with the sip notify command.

I vaguely remember that for e.g. the Polycoms some other condition had to be
true: either the phone's config file on the ftp/tftp server had to have a
newer time-stamp than the one that was downloaded during the phone's last
boot, or a config option had to be set to a non-default value to make the
phone reboot unconditionally upon receiving the SIP notify, regardless of
the config file's modification date.

This is just my opinion:

#1 - if you are using sip notify to send a command to an unregistered
peer, you won't get a result back unless you are in a very verbose/debug
mode.

#2 - they are probably xml push/receives and there are lighter clients
than Asterisk out there to accomplish what you want.  Google for
lightweight SIP server

 

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Re: [asterisk-users] Using SIP stack within Asterisk to reboot phones - Possible?

2010-12-27 Thread Steve Edwards

On Mon, 27 Dec 2010, Bruce B wrote:

Thanks Kai-Uwe and everyone else. I have seen all those examples and I 
am exploring the sip_notify.conf file now which makes things more clear 
to me. However, when sending a SIP notify to a phone that is not 
registered to Asterisk via it's IP address should I expect to receive a 
success of fail packet back or that is not how SIP Notify works?


Maybe it's just me being a 1.2 Luddite, but I'd rather not have to explain 
to my boss that I crashed the production server because of a bug or 
because I was 'trying something out' and forgot which server I was on.


Any chance sipsak or sipp can handle this task? I reboot my aging SPA3K 
using an http request via wget.


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Re: [asterisk-users] Using SIP stack within Asterisk to reboot phones - Possible?

2010-12-27 Thread Kai-Uwe Jensen
I've never worked with Aastras, so don't have any additional data over
what's been said by others. Also, I've never sent the SIP check-sync
notify to a phone that wasn't already registered with the asterisk server
the SIP notify was sent from. My best *guess* would be that actual behavior
of the phones in that case might vary (based on manufacturer and/or firmware
version). Some might ignore the notify, others *may* accept it *if* the
asterisk server was their provisioning server previously, some might even
blindly accept it.

The actual payload/content of the Notify is configured in the
sip_notify.conf file. My version (running 1.8.1.1) does not have anything
specific to Aastra in it, so I would try all the other ones to see if one of
them works. If none work, I'd go search for some Aastra administrator
documentation (or provisioning guide, or some such). As you can see from the
file, the payload itself is not complex at all. For Polycoms as an example,
the Event field in the SIP NOTIFY header is set to check-sync. That's
all there is to it.

The SIP Notify we're talking about here is a simple SIP event being sent to
the phone by asterisk. Best to use a packet sniffer, or you could turn on
SIP debug in asterisk for a single peer and send it the notify. The
behavior I see with my Polycoms makes it appear as if there is no
handshake between asterisk and the phone at all for these. The phone
reboots as soon as I send the notify. Even more, asterisk does a few
retransmissions of the notify packet, so it might've expected a SIP response
from the phone (which the phone did not send).

Lastly, to state the obvious, the SIP Notify itself does not convey any
configuration data to the phone at all. It only tells the phone to go check
your config. So to help with your provisioning scenario, you'd have to
update/modify the original config data/files for the phone on the
provisioning server, then trigger the phone to reboot (or reload). From all
I've seen with Polycoms and Ciscos, you'll set up a phone's provisioning
server through your DHCP server (or manually on the phone). The SIP Notify
will cause the phone to go back to that provisioning server and re-load the
latest config data.
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Re: [asterisk-users] Using SIP stack within Asterisk to reboot phones - Possible?

2010-12-27 Thread Nikhil

SIPp is a good option.

Thanks
Nikhil
On 12/27/2010 11:38 PM, Bruce B wrote:

Hi Everyone,

I use Asterisk for regularPBX use it's made for. But I want to take it 
a bit further and use it at cmmand level to be able to send SIP 
notifies to restart a phone or take advantage of a phone's UPnP 
capabilities. Is Asterisk capable of that? If so, what is a simple SIP 
reboot message like and how can I invoke it from a Asterisk CLI?


If Asterisk is not the best tool for this purpose what is a very 
simple to implement SIP stack out there that can do this?


Thanks,


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