Re: [asterisk-users] Who is the creative mind behind changing Asterisk commands at CLI?

2011-10-03 Thread Tzafrir Cohen
On Sun, Sep 25, 2011 at 09:39:06PM -0700, Steve Edwards wrote: On Sun, 25 Sep 2011, Alex Balashov wrote: Aside from that, is it really that big of a deal? Is it that hard to learn a new command set and adapt? Yes, it is. I confess I'm a 1.2 Luddite so I have close to no experience with

Re: [asterisk-users] Who is the creative mind behind changing Asterisk commands at CLI?

2011-10-03 Thread Mark Deneen
On Sat, Sep 24, 2011 at 9:35 PM, Bruce B bruceb...@gmail.com wrote: Hi everyone, I don't mean to be rude but honestly which genius comes up with changing the Word to the wise -- if one starts a sentence with I don't mean to be...X your true intentions are to be just that. If you find yourself

Re: [asterisk-users] Who is the creative mind behind changing Asterisk commands at CLI?

2011-09-25 Thread Paul Belanger
On 11-09-25 01:54 AM, Антон Квашёнкин wrote: Just use cli aliases, provided by res_clialiases.so. 2011/9/25 Bruce Bbruceb...@gmail.com Please don't feed the trolls. Thanks. -- Paul Belanger Digium, Inc. | Software Developer twitter: pabelanger | IRC: pabelanger (Freenode) Check us out at:

Re: [asterisk-users] Who is the creative mind behind changing Asterisk commands at CLI?

2011-09-25 Thread Bruce B
Paul, These trolls are the people who put your kid to school and put food on your table by giving valuable input and testing the open source software. Are you sure Digium endorses this stand of yours? Does everyone at Digium think the users who gives feedback that is not exactly what you like is

Re: [asterisk-users] Who is the creative mind behind changing Asterisk commands at CLI?

2011-09-25 Thread Steve Underwood
On 09/26/2011 01:01 AM, Bruce B wrote: Paul, These trolls are the people who put your kid to school and put food on your table by giving valuable input and testing the open source software. Are you sure Digium endorses this stand of yours? Does everyone at Digium think the users who gives

Re: [asterisk-users] Who is the creative mind behind changing Asterisk commands at CLI?

2011-09-25 Thread Paul Belanger
On 11-09-25 01:01 PM, Bruce B wrote: Paul, These trolls are the people who put your kid to school and put food on your table by giving valuable input and testing the open source software. Are you sure Digium endorses this stand of yours? Does everyone at Digium think the users who gives

Re: [asterisk-users] Who is the creative mind behind changing Asterisk commands at CLI?

2011-09-25 Thread Alec Taylor
We need explicit namespaces with asterisk CLI commands On Mon, Sep 26, 2011 at 3:22 AM, Paul Belanger pabelan...@digium.com wrote: On 11-09-25 01:01 PM, Bruce B wrote: Paul, These trolls are the people who put your kid to school and put food on your table by giving valuable input and

Re: [asterisk-users] Who is the creative mind behind changing Asterisk commands at CLI?

2011-09-25 Thread Bruce B
Paul, LOL...you are trying to change the subject. That's naive. You clearly know that I complained that there is no need for such drastic changes and long commands. The fact that it's written in CHANGES file or if there was a commit for it doesn't make it any better. Stop with the flawed

Re: [asterisk-users] Who is the creative mind behind changing Asterisk commands at CLI?

2011-09-25 Thread Paul Belanger
On 11-09-25 02:23 PM, Bruce B wrote: Paul, LOL...you are trying to change the subject. That's naive. You clearly know that I complained that there is no need for such drastic changes and long commands. The fact that it's written in CHANGES file or if there was a commit for it doesn't make it

Re: [asterisk-users] Who is the creative mind behind changing Asterisk commands at CLI?

2011-09-25 Thread Alex Balashov
On 09/25/2011 02:23 PM, Bruce B wrote: Stop wishing for that. I like Asterisk and I will raise a voice when I feel uncomfortable with changes. You won't get an audience if the way you go about it is dickish. You're being a dick, and you know you're being a dick. You're just unwilling to

Re: [asterisk-users] Who is the creative mind behind changing Asterisk commands at CLI?

2011-09-25 Thread jon pounder
On 09/25/2011 04:41 PM, Alex Balashov wrote: Sometimes people get such swelled heads they need a slap back to reality - I completely agree with him the changes were idiotic. Obviously the comments touched a nerve with you or you would not have replied. On 09/25/2011 02:23 PM, Bruce B

Re: [asterisk-users] Who is the creative mind behind changing Asterisk commands at CLI?

2011-09-25 Thread Alex Balashov
On 09/25/2011 04:46 PM, jon pounder wrote: Sometimes people get such swelled heads they need a slap back to reality - I completely agree with him the changes were idiotic. Obviously the comments touched a nerve with you or you would not have replied. I don't think very highly of the changes

Re: [asterisk-users] Who is the creative mind behind changing Asterisk commands at CLI?

2011-09-25 Thread John Novack
jon pounder wrote: On 09/25/2011 04:41 PM, Alex Balashov wrote: Sometimes people get such swelled heads they need a slap back to reality - I completely agree with him the changes were idiotic. Obviously the comments touched a nerve with you or you would not have replied. And let's not

Re: [asterisk-users] Who is the creative mind behind changing Asterisk commands at CLI?

2011-09-25 Thread Robert-iPhone
I am adding dickish to my dictionary - thats a hot one! Sent from my iPhone On Sep 25, 2011, at 4:41 PM, Alex Balashov abalas...@evaristesys.com wrote: On 09/25/2011 02:23 PM, Bruce B wrote: Stop wishing for that. I like Asterisk and I will raise a voice when I feel uncomfortable with

Re: [asterisk-users] Who is the creative mind behind changing Asterisk commands at CLI?

2011-09-25 Thread Bruce B
You are very childish besides being very useless. Also, note that there are others that are bothered by the same changes that are uncalled for. I was as constructive as possible but you think starting a sentence with I am not trying to be rude... is rude. LOL. I have said that upfront so idiots

Re: [asterisk-users] Who is the creative mind behind changing Asterisk commands at CLI?

2011-09-25 Thread jon pounder
On 09/25/2011 08:47 PM, Bruce B wrote: This is becoming just like the bacula mailing list where anyone that knows anything is beaten into submission for daring to question the great and powerful oz. You are very childish besides being very useless. Also, note that there are others that

Re: [asterisk-users] Who is the creative mind behind changing Asterisk commands at CLI?

2011-09-25 Thread Bruce B
First of all, what the heck is this link you referenced: http://lists.digium.com/**pipermail/asterisk-users/2010-**April/247084.htmlhttp://lists.digium.com/pipermail/asterisk-users/2010-April/247084.html ?? Secondly, an Asterisk 1.6.2.18 that I am running right now plays nicely with help

Re: [asterisk-users] Who is the creative mind behind changing Asterisk commands at CLI?

2011-09-25 Thread Paul Belanger
On 11-09-25 08:57 PM, Bruce B wrote: First of all, what the heck is this link you referenced: http://lists.digium.com/**pipermail/asterisk-users/2010-**April/247084.htmlhttp://lists.digium.com/pipermail/asterisk-users/2010-April/247084.html ?? Secondly, an Asterisk 1.6.2.18 that I am

Re: [asterisk-users] Who is the creative mind behind changing Asterisk commands at CLI?

2011-09-25 Thread Bruce B
Thank you for a constructive reply. I am not a war monger and I appreciate a proper response. I will explore my options to that. My opinion may still be that such long commands are unnecessary but at least it seems there is a way to go around them for now and I am happy to hear that. On Sun,

Re: [asterisk-users] Who is the creative mind behind changing Asterisk commands at CLI?

2011-09-25 Thread Steve Edwards
On 09/25/2011 04:46 PM, jon pounder wrote: Sometimes people get such swelled heads they need a slap back to reality - I completely agree with him the changes were idiotic. Obviously the comments touched a nerve with you or you would not have replied. On Sun, 25 Sep 2011, Alex Balashov

[asterisk-users] Who is the creative mind behind changing Asterisk commands at CLI?

2011-09-24 Thread Bruce B
Hi everyone, I don't mean to be rude but honestly which genius comes up with changing the simple: help to core show help That's just an example. If it was only this or if this was only a two words loss then I would be fine. I think someone just loves to play around with the commands with

Re: [asterisk-users] Who is the creative mind behind changing Asterisk commands at CLI?

2011-09-24 Thread Антон Квашёнкин
Just use cli aliases, provided by res_clialiases.so. 2011/9/25 Bruce B bruceb...@gmail.com Hi everyone, I don't mean to be rude but honestly which genius comes up with changing the simple: help to core show help That's just an example. If it was only this or if this was only a two