Re: [asterisk-users] Why PRI not BRI ?

2011-05-30 Thread virendra bhati
Thanks a lot all,
Now my view is clear ...

On Sun, May 29, 2011 at 3:15 PM, Gordon Henderson 
gordon+aster...@drogon.net wrote:

 On Sun, 29 May 2011, virendra bhati wrote:

  Hi List,

 I have stupid question but I want to know it. Why we use the PRI insted of
 BRI ? Just for the sake of number of lines or any thing else ?


 It probably depends on your country.

 In mainland europe (or maybe just Germany), ISDN2e (BRI) is very popular -
 not uncommon in home installations too.

 In the UK, it's almost the standard in small businesses - the migration
 path seems to be from a single line to 3 lines sharing the same number to
 ISDN2e...

 There was a push in the UK to support BRI in the home (~10 years back,
 under the name Home Highway), but it came at a time when ADSL was almost
 upon us, and BT in their infinite wisdom removed a lot of the ISDN features
 that make it actually useful...

 I don't think BRI ever caught on in the US - It was analogue or PRI (or
 channelised/fractional T1 or whatever it's called) Probably made it much
 easier for the telcos to support (and afford)


  And why SIP is used for making calls rather then IAX? Even we know IAX
 takes
 1 channel for making calls?


 SIP is an open standard that's been around since the late 90's. IAX, which
 is also open and free was only just accepted as a standard last year, but
 even so, there's inertia. Very few phone manufacturers are using it - why
 should they, when they've been using SIP for years, and the same PBX that
 works with IAX also works with SIP... (And does any other PBX support IAX
 yet?)

 Gordon


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Re: [asterisk-users] Why PRI not BRI ?

2011-05-30 Thread Alex Balashov

On 05/29/2011 04:57 AM, virendra bhati wrote:


And why SIP is used for making calls rather then IAX? Even we know
IAX takes 1 channel for making calls?


IAX is an Asterisk-centered phenomenon and has no currency outside of 
it.  In the broader VoIP world, interoperability with a wide range of 
equipment is mandatory.


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Re: [asterisk-users] Why PRI not BRI ?

2011-05-30 Thread Hans Witvliet
On Mon, 2011-05-30 at 13:57 +0530, virendra bhati wrote:
 Thanks a lot all, 
 Now my view is clear ...
 
 On Sun, May 29, 2011 at 3:15 PM, Gordon Henderson gordon
 +aster...@drogon.net wrote:
 On Sun, 29 May 2011, virendra bhati wrote:
 
 Hi List,
 
 I have stupid question but I want to know it. Why we
 use the PRI insted of
 BRI ? Just for the sake of number of lines or any
 thing else ?
 
 
 It probably depends on your country.
 
 In mainland europe (or maybe just Germany), ISDN2e (BRI) is
 very popular - not uncommon in home installations too.
 
 In the UK, it's almost the standard in small businesses - the
 migration path seems to be from a single line to 3 lines
 sharing the same number to ISDN2e...
 
 There was a push in the UK to support BRI in the home (~10
 years back, under the name Home Highway), but it came at a
 time when ADSL was almost upon us, and BT in their infinite
 wisdom removed a lot of the ISDN features that make it
 actually useful...
 
 I don't think BRI ever caught on in the US - It was analogue
 or PRI (or channelised/fractional T1 or whatever it's called)
 Probably made it much easier for the telcos to support (and
 afford)

Only reason for using bri instead of pri in the number of  voice chanels
and costs. It took ages  before telco's realised that with fractured-E1
they could save a lot of costs (telco/customers) while offering a cheap
upgrade path. At that time that ISDN was introduced, the costs in
installing a pri-interface in the local-exchange was identical to
installing a bri-interface.

Only reason nowadays for using bri instead of pots, is that you get the
incoming speech channel already digitialised.


 And why SIP is used for making calls rather then IAX?
 Even we know IAX takes
 1 channel for making calls?
 
 
 SIP is an open standard that's been around since the late
 90's. IAX, which is also open and free was only just accepted
 as a standard last year, but even so, there's inertia. Very
 few phone manufacturers are using it - why should they, when
 they've been using SIP for years, and the same PBX that works
 with IAX also works with SIP... (And does any other PBX
 support IAX yet?)
 

Freepbx is the only other afaicr.
Only a limited number of clients.

hw

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[asterisk-users] Why PRI not BRI ?

2011-05-29 Thread virendra bhati
Hi List,

I have stupid question but I want to know it. Why we use the PRI insted of
BRI ? Just for the sake of number of lines or any thing else ?
And why SIP is used for making calls rather then IAX? Even we know IAX takes
1 channel for making calls?



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Re: [asterisk-users] Why PRI not BRI ?

2011-05-29 Thread Gergo Csibra
Sunday, May 29, 2011, 10:57:00 AM, virendra wrote:

 I have stupid question but I want to know it. Why we use the PRI insted of
 BRI ? Just for the sake of number of lines or any thing else ?

Yes, because of much more channels. But if you need only 2 or 4
channels BRI is cheaper. From 10-12 channels becomes PRI cheaper.

And the other reason: if you use traditional channel banks instead of
VoIP phones that uses PRI also.

 And why SIP is used for making calls rather then IAX? Even we know IAX takes
 1 channel for making calls?

Maybe because of almost every VoIP phones knows SIP. I personally
didn't meet any IAX VoIP phone.

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Re: [asterisk-users] Why PRI not BRI ?

2011-05-29 Thread Gordon Henderson

On Sun, 29 May 2011, virendra bhati wrote:


Hi List,

I have stupid question but I want to know it. Why we use the PRI insted of
BRI ? Just for the sake of number of lines or any thing else ?


It probably depends on your country.

In mainland europe (or maybe just Germany), ISDN2e (BRI) is very popular - 
not uncommon in home installations too.


In the UK, it's almost the standard in small businesses - the migration 
path seems to be from a single line to 3 lines sharing the same number to 
ISDN2e...


There was a push in the UK to support BRI in the home (~10 years back, 
under the name Home Highway), but it came at a time when ADSL was almost 
upon us, and BT in their infinite wisdom removed a lot of the ISDN 
features that make it actually useful...


I don't think BRI ever caught on in the US - It was analogue or PRI (or 
channelised/fractional T1 or whatever it's called) Probably made it much 
easier for the telcos to support (and afford)



And why SIP is used for making calls rather then IAX? Even we know IAX takes
1 channel for making calls?


SIP is an open standard that's been around since the late 90's. IAX, which 
is also open and free was only just accepted as a standard last year, but 
even so, there's inertia. Very few phone manufacturers are using it - why 
should they, when they've been using SIP for years, and the same PBX that 
works with IAX also works with SIP... (And does any other PBX support IAX 
yet?)


Gordon

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