[asterisk-users] Why does it take at least 4 flipping days before asterisk tries to resolve a provider?

2006-10-23 Thread Remco Barendse
After a reboot, asterisk is usually too much in a hurry to try and resolve 
my iax/sip providers.

Asterisk starts before the internet connection is up and dns is working.

Then asterisk just waits, and waits and waits and waits even longer before 
ever trying to revolve any voip provider again.

And all this time calls are flowing out through the very expensive PSTN.

And then people say nightly asterisk restarts are not a good idea
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RE: [asterisk-users] Why does it take at least 4 flipping days before asterisk tries to resolve a provider?

2006-10-23 Thread Andreas Sikkema
Remco,

 Asterisk starts before the internet connection is up and dns 
 is working.

knip

 And then people say nightly asterisk restarts are not a good idea


Why is your asterisk startup script running before networking has been 
setup? Asterisk has the same networking dependencies as apache, so I 
start it around the same time using the same priority as apache and as 
far as I know networking should work at that time or not at all, not 
somewhere in between.

pebkac?

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RE: [asterisk-users] Why does it take at least 4 flipping days before asterisk tries to resolve a provider?

2006-10-23 Thread Dave Cotton
On Mon, 2006-10-23 at 10:14 +0200, Andreas Sikkema wrote:

 Why is your asterisk startup script running before networking has been 
 setup? Asterisk has the same networking dependencies as apache, so I 
 start it around the same time using the same priority as apache and as 
 far as I know networking should work at that time or not at all, not 
 somewhere in between.

I've seen this type of nonsense with newer versions of Suse. I've never
bothered to find out why, just changed the priority manually to make
sure it does what _I_ want.

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Dave Cotton [EMAIL PROTECTED]

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RE: [asterisk-users] Why does it take at least 4 flipping days before asterisk tries to resolve a provider?

2006-10-23 Thread Remco Barendse
On Mon, 23 Oct 2006, Andreas Sikkema wrote:

 Remco,
 
  Asterisk starts before the internet connection is up and dns 
  is working.
 
 knip
 
  And then people say nightly asterisk restarts are not a good idea
 
 
 Why is your asterisk startup script running before networking has been 
 setup? Asterisk has the same networking dependencies as apache, so I 
 start it around the same time using the same priority as apache and as 
 far as I know networking should work at that time or not at all, not 
 somewhere in between.

It is not, asterisk is correctly started after networking services, 
however it seems that when the box is booting the dns is replying just a 
split second too late for the taste of asterisk and it seems that asterisk 
then marks the provider as unavailable.

* should never wait that long, the 'load' on the box to resolve maybe a 
handful of domains is nothing, even if you would be running a Pentium 1 
box, and this should not be any reason not to try again every few minutes 
or so.


 
 pebkac?

If your view is broad enough all computer / it related trouble could be 
traced back to that :)
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Re: [asterisk-users] Why does it take at least 4 flipping days before asterisk tries to resolve a provider?

2006-10-23 Thread Thomas Kenyon

Remco Barendse wrote:


It is not, asterisk is correctly started after networking services, 
however it seems that when the box is booting the dns is replying just a 
split second too late for the taste of asterisk and it seems that asterisk 
then marks the provider as unavailable.


* should never wait that long, the 'load' on the box to resolve maybe a 
handful of domains is nothing, even if you would be running a Pentium 1 
box, and this should not be any reason not to try again every few minutes 
or so.



I was under the impression that it only contacted the hosts if it was 
registering with them, then it would wait until the value passed in 
registertimeout (sip.conf) and retry again after that time (if it failed).


In practise here (and at work) if the machine has problems contacting 
registration hosts, anyx sip clients connected to the server (even 
locally) will not register and any fixed sip peer - user pairs that 
don't require registration will also not work until it can contact the 
host again.


I doubt this is what's supposed to happen, but that's what happens with 
me (1.2.12.1 and 1.4b2).

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Re: [asterisk-users] Why does it take at least 4 flipping days before asterisk tries to resolve a provider?

2006-10-23 Thread Eric \ManxPower\ Wieling

Thomas Kenyon wrote:

Remco Barendse wrote:


It is not, asterisk is correctly started after networking services, 
however it seems that when the box is booting the dns is replying just 
a split second too late for the taste of asterisk and it seems that 
asterisk then marks the provider as unavailable.


* should never wait that long, the 'load' on the box to resolve maybe 
a handful of domains is nothing, even if you would be running a 
Pentium 1 box, and this should not be any reason not to try again 
every few minutes or so.



I was under the impression that it only contacted the hosts if it was 
registering with them, then it would wait until the value passed in 
registertimeout (sip.conf) and retry again after that time (if it failed).


In practise here (and at work) if the machine has problems contacting 
registration hosts, anyx sip clients connected to the server (even 
locally) will not register and any fixed sip peer - user pairs that 
don't require registration will also not work until it can contact the 
host again.


I doubt this is what's supposed to happen, but that's what happens with 
me (1.2.12.1 and 1.4b2).


This is a known issue.  See the mailing list archives.  Make sure 
asterisk does not try to resolve using DNS.

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