Re: [asterisk-users] Wierd question - Give me your opinion please
Minimum 3 days to Next Day Air something in. My real concern is the Analog Extensions getting hit by lightening and taking out the server, but since the cards are module based hopefully this will not happen. I may use your hot spare idea. On Mon, Feb 4, 2013 at 10:14 PM, Carlos Alvarez car...@televolve.comwrote: If you have the budget for two machines, run all services on one and keep the other for a hot backup. Rsync the configs nightly. I'm guessing that spare parts/repairs are far away from where you will be? On Mon, Feb 4, 2013 at 9:11 PM, Jared Baxley jared.bax...@gmail.comwrote: Client - Not for Profit in the Middle of the Jungle/Rain Forrest Infrastructure - Datacenter is Non Climate Controlled, Prone to Flooding, and has Sketchy Power, LAN - NEW Cabling in main Office building, Hodge Podge of DYI wiring across remaining buildings. Phones - Total of about 50 extensions. Only about 25 - 30 phones will be IP phones, 20-30 more will have to be analog due to the distance. Analog Extensions will be on Digium TDM2400 or Sangoma A400 Cards. Analog extensions WILL Hit a Surge Gate before the cards, and as much precaution on grounding protection and power protection is being taken as possible. The cards WILL BE PCI not PCI-e (They are being donated) A New Dell Power-edge Server will be acquired for the PBX HERE IS MY QUESTION Would you purchase a NEW TOWER Server with PCI slots to accommodate the cards, OR Purchase a NEW RACK MOUNT server for the PBX, and Buy/Build a Cheaper Server just for the analog extensions, I'm torn... The ease of management of one server, or the isolation of analog extensions scattered through the jungle on it's own server. Opinions? -- _ -- Bandwidth and Colocation Provided by http://www.api-digital.com -- New to Asterisk? Join us for a live introductory webinar every Thurs: http://www.asterisk.org/hello asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users -- Carlos Alvarez TelEvolve 602-889-3003 -- _ -- Bandwidth and Colocation Provided by http://www.api-digital.com -- New to Asterisk? Join us for a live introductory webinar every Thurs: http://www.asterisk.org/hello asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users -- _ -- Bandwidth and Colocation Provided by http://www.api-digital.com -- New to Asterisk? Join us for a live introductory webinar every Thurs: http://www.asterisk.org/hello asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [asterisk-users] Wierd question - Give me your opinion please
My gut tells me to isolate the analog from the real pbx as much as possible, but in the end it all has to be connected my the lan. I rarely use FXS devices, so i'm leary of trusting the module to burn and save the card. The closest building is 950 ft, the second is 1850 ft. These two buildings are connected via LRE's using existing 6 Pair, Unfortunately re cabling isn't an option. Other buildings are even further from the office, about 15 or so scattered about that only require 1 phone each. Doe to the flakiness of the power, the fact that they generate and have solar augmenting the service company, Homeplug and the like are not viable options. No guaranteei all the buildings are even on the same transformer I have to work within the confines of existing Telephone cabling between buildings. Perhaps one day a strong enough wireless infrastructure can be built to support these phones. Now I wonder if I can even get a NEW server with 2 PCI interfaces... On Tue, Feb 5, 2013 at 2:17 AM, Leandro Dardini ldard...@gmail.com wrote: Both the Sangoma and the Digium card are module based, so in the event of a electrical shock, the module will burn and the board will be safe. About the too long lines, the UTP cable is not the only type of cable capable of running ethernet. Skipping the too much expensive fiber optics, you can find some cheap RG58 cable with BNC connectors. 10BaseT can run up to 185 meters and you can have stations in the middle. If the distances are longer and you don't like to get your hands dirty with old equipment, then you can use the new Homeplug standard, capable of running ethernet on almost any electrical media for hundred and hundred of meters of distance. Leandro 2013/2/5 Carlos Alvarez car...@televolve.com If you have the budget for two machines, run all services on one and keep the other for a hot backup. Rsync the configs nightly. I'm guessing that spare parts/repairs are far away from where you will be? On Mon, Feb 4, 2013 at 9:11 PM, Jared Baxley jared.bax...@gmail.comwrote: Client - Not for Profit in the Middle of the Jungle/Rain Forrest Infrastructure - Datacenter is Non Climate Controlled, Prone to Flooding, and has Sketchy Power, LAN - NEW Cabling in main Office building, Hodge Podge of DYI wiring across remaining buildings. Phones - Total of about 50 extensions. Only about 25 - 30 phones will be IP phones, 20-30 more will have to be analog due to the distance. Analog Extensions will be on Digium TDM2400 or Sangoma A400 Cards. Analog extensions WILL Hit a Surge Gate before the cards, and as much precaution on grounding protection and power protection is being taken as possible. The cards WILL BE PCI not PCI-e (They are being donated) A New Dell Power-edge Server will be acquired for the PBX HERE IS MY QUESTION Would you purchase a NEW TOWER Server with PCI slots to accommodate the cards, OR Purchase a NEW RACK MOUNT server for the PBX, and Buy/Build a Cheaper Server just for the analog extensions, I'm torn... The ease of management of one server, or the isolation of analog extensions scattered through the jungle on it's own server. Opinions? -- _ -- Bandwidth and Colocation Provided by http://www.api-digital.com -- New to Asterisk? Join us for a live introductory webinar every Thurs: http://www.asterisk.org/hello asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users -- Carlos Alvarez TelEvolve 602-889-3003 -- _ -- Bandwidth and Colocation Provided by http://www.api-digital.com -- New to Asterisk? Join us for a live introductory webinar every Thurs: http://www.asterisk.org/hello asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users -- _ -- Bandwidth and Colocation Provided by http://www.api-digital.com -- New to Asterisk? Join us for a live introductory webinar every Thurs: http://www.asterisk.org/hello asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users -- _ -- Bandwidth and Colocation Provided by http://www.api-digital.com -- New to Asterisk? Join us for a live introductory webinar every Thurs: http://www.asterisk.org/hello asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [asterisk-users] Wierd question - Give me your opinion please
On 5/2/13 11:45 am, Jared Baxley wrote: The closest building is 950 ft, the second is 1850 ft. These two buildings are connected via LRE's using existing 6 Pair, Unfortunately re cabling isn't an option. Other buildings are even further from the office, about 15 or so scattered about that only require 1 phone each. Have you considered running your own SHDSL between the sites, i.e. run a small DSLAM in the main building? That'd give you IP connectivity in the remote buildings which could be used for both phones and also general net access if required. You'd then avoid having to worry about analogue phones at all. A friend did this down the length of a heritage railway as they already had cable running the length of their tracks, and I believe it was fairly successful. Kind regards, Chris -- This email is made from 100% recycled electrons -- _ -- Bandwidth and Colocation Provided by http://www.api-digital.com -- New to Asterisk? Join us for a live introductory webinar every Thurs: http://www.asterisk.org/hello asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [asterisk-users] Wierd question - Give me your opinion please
At 08:11 PM 2/4/2013, you wrote: Would you purchase a NEW TOWER Server with PCI slots to accommodate the cards, OR Purchase a NEW RACK MOUNT server for the PBX, and Buy/Build a Cheaper Server just for the analog extensions, Personally I think I'd purchase a number of used servers so if one dies, you have a backup or three. 25 lines does not need a modern processor and it seems silly to spend money for a warranty when you could spend less and have a number of spares. I've used these to extend ethernet over phone lines. http://www.startech.com/Networking-IO/Media-Converters/Ethernet-Extenders/10-100Mbps-VDSL2-Ethernet-LAN-Extender-Kit~110VDSLEXT Ira -- _ -- Bandwidth and Colocation Provided by http://www.api-digital.com -- New to Asterisk? Join us for a live introductory webinar every Thurs: http://www.asterisk.org/hello asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [asterisk-users] Wierd question - Give me your opinion please
On Mon, Feb 4, 2013 at 11:11 PM, Jared Baxley jared.bax...@gmail.com wrote: Client - Not for Profit in the Middle of the Jungle/Rain Forrest Infrastructure - Datacenter is Non Climate Controlled, Prone to Flooding, and has Sketchy Power, LAN - NEW Cabling in main Office building, Hodge Podge of DYI wiring across remaining buildings. Phones - Total of about 50 extensions. Only about 25 - 30 phones will be IP phones, 20-30 more will have to be analog due to the distance. Analog Extensions will be on Digium TDM2400 or Sangoma A400 Cards. Analog extensions WILL Hit a Surge Gate before the cards, and as much precaution on grounding protection and power protection is being taken as possible. The cards WILL BE PCI not PCI-e (They are being donated) A New Dell Power-edge Server will be acquired for the PBX HERE IS MY QUESTION Would you purchase a NEW TOWER Server with PCI slots to accommodate the cards, OR Purchase a NEW RACK MOUNT server for the PBX, and Buy/Build a Cheaper Server just for the analog extensions, I'm torn... The ease of management of one server, or the isolation of analog extensions scattered through the jungle on it's own server. Opinions? For that number of analog stations, I would go with tried and true channel banks. Adtran or Adit would be my personal choice. I would probably consider not even using any IP phones to keep things very simple. Thanks, Steve T -- _ -- Bandwidth and Colocation Provided by http://www.api-digital.com -- New to Asterisk? Join us for a live introductory webinar every Thurs: http://www.asterisk.org/hello asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [asterisk-users] Wierd question - Give me your opinion please
On Tue, Feb 5, 2013 at 11:43 AM, Ira i...@extrasensory.com wrote: Personally I think I'd purchase a number of used servers so if one dies, you have a backup or three. 25 lines does not need a modern processor and it seems silly to spend money for a warranty when you could spend less and have a number of spares. I completely agree with this. I'd buy several refurb/used machines rather than one new. We buy all of our HP refurb servers from these guys: http://www.nautilusnet.com/ alb...@nautilusnet.com -- Carlos Alvarez TelEvolve 602-889-3003 -- _ -- Bandwidth and Colocation Provided by http://www.api-digital.com -- New to Asterisk? Join us for a live introductory webinar every Thurs: http://www.asterisk.org/hello asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
[asterisk-users] Wierd question - Give me your opinion please
Client - Not for Profit in the Middle of the Jungle/Rain Forrest Infrastructure - Datacenter is Non Climate Controlled, Prone to Flooding, and has Sketchy Power, LAN - NEW Cabling in main Office building, Hodge Podge of DYI wiring across remaining buildings. Phones - Total of about 50 extensions. Only about 25 - 30 phones will be IP phones, 20-30 more will have to be analog due to the distance. Analog Extensions will be on Digium TDM2400 or Sangoma A400 Cards. Analog extensions WILL Hit a Surge Gate before the cards, and as much precaution on grounding protection and power protection is being taken as possible. The cards WILL BE PCI not PCI-e (They are being donated) A New Dell Power-edge Server will be acquired for the PBX HERE IS MY QUESTION Would you purchase a NEW TOWER Server with PCI slots to accommodate the cards, OR Purchase a NEW RACK MOUNT server for the PBX, and Buy/Build a Cheaper Server just for the analog extensions, I'm torn... The ease of management of one server, or the isolation of analog extensions scattered through the jungle on it's own server. Opinions? -- _ -- Bandwidth and Colocation Provided by http://www.api-digital.com -- New to Asterisk? Join us for a live introductory webinar every Thurs: http://www.asterisk.org/hello asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [asterisk-users] Wierd question - Give me your opinion please
If you have the budget for two machines, run all services on one and keep the other for a hot backup. Rsync the configs nightly. I'm guessing that spare parts/repairs are far away from where you will be? On Mon, Feb 4, 2013 at 9:11 PM, Jared Baxley jared.bax...@gmail.com wrote: Client - Not for Profit in the Middle of the Jungle/Rain Forrest Infrastructure - Datacenter is Non Climate Controlled, Prone to Flooding, and has Sketchy Power, LAN - NEW Cabling in main Office building, Hodge Podge of DYI wiring across remaining buildings. Phones - Total of about 50 extensions. Only about 25 - 30 phones will be IP phones, 20-30 more will have to be analog due to the distance. Analog Extensions will be on Digium TDM2400 or Sangoma A400 Cards. Analog extensions WILL Hit a Surge Gate before the cards, and as much precaution on grounding protection and power protection is being taken as possible. The cards WILL BE PCI not PCI-e (They are being donated) A New Dell Power-edge Server will be acquired for the PBX HERE IS MY QUESTION Would you purchase a NEW TOWER Server with PCI slots to accommodate the cards, OR Purchase a NEW RACK MOUNT server for the PBX, and Buy/Build a Cheaper Server just for the analog extensions, I'm torn... The ease of management of one server, or the isolation of analog extensions scattered through the jungle on it's own server. Opinions? -- _ -- Bandwidth and Colocation Provided by http://www.api-digital.com -- New to Asterisk? Join us for a live introductory webinar every Thurs: http://www.asterisk.org/hello asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users -- Carlos Alvarez TelEvolve 602-889-3003 -- _ -- Bandwidth and Colocation Provided by http://www.api-digital.com -- New to Asterisk? Join us for a live introductory webinar every Thurs: http://www.asterisk.org/hello asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
