Re: [asterisk-users] problem to install asterisk on vps digitalocean
2013/6/4 James Cloos cl...@jhcloos.com mailto:cl...@jhcloos.com t == troxlinux xserverli...@gmail.com mailto:xserverli...@gmail.com writes: t I try to install asterisk on vps server , but fails when I want to t install dahdi There is no hardware for dahdi to use; you shouldn't need to install it. 2013-06-04 22:28, troxlinux skrev: if it is true I have not any hardware but I need help to solve it and I think it could serve other future Depending on the type of VPS this can work or not. My general experience of normal stock-VPS:es are that they are often oversold. And it will create a lot of issues for you with voip. On OpenVZ you can't load kernel-modules in the VE anyway, so it's no idea to compile Dahdi. But if you control the HN, you can install it there and give the VE access to it. In that case you should compile it in the VE as well. The same applies to LXC. On XEN/KVM I think it will work, but be sure to test the timing with dahdi_test - you don't want the results to drop below 99.9. Try create some i/o (for example compile asterisk) and run the test in another window. Dahdi in VE's is a pain, but can work if you control the HN. You should do development and testing on a dedicated server. After that, try move to a VPS and try to fix the issues. The other way around is very hard. -- Johan Wilfer -- _ -- Bandwidth and Colocation Provided by http://www.api-digital.com -- New to Asterisk? Join us for a live introductory webinar every Thurs: http://www.asterisk.org/hello asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
[asterisk-users] problem to install asterisk on vps digitalocean
Hi list, I try to install asterisk on vps server , but fails when I want to install dahdi [root@shark dahdi-linux-2.6.3-rc1]# make make -C drivers/dahdi/firmware firmware-loaders make[1]: Entering directory `/usr/src/dahdi-linux-2.6.3-rc1/drivers/dahdi/firmware' make[1]: Leaving directory `/usr/src/dahdi-linux-2.6.3-rc1/drivers/dahdi/firmware' You do not appear to have the sources for the 2.6.32-358.6.2.el6.x86_64 kernel installed. make: *** [modules] Error 1 I have the libraries installed kernel rpm -qa | grep -i kernel kernel-firmware-2.6.32-358.6.2.el6.noarch dracut-kernel-004-303.el6.noarch kernel-devel-2.6.32-358.6.2.el6.x86_64 kernel-2.6.32-358.6.2.el6.x86_64 kernel-headers-2.6.32-358.6.2.el6.x86_64 [root@shark dahdi-linux-2.6.3-rc1]# uname -r 2.6.32-358.6.2.el6.x86_64 regardss -- rickygm http://gnuforever.homelinux.com -- _ -- Bandwidth and Colocation Provided by http://www.api-digital.com -- New to Asterisk? Join us for a live introductory webinar every Thurs: http://www.asterisk.org/hello asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [asterisk-users] problem to install asterisk on vps digitalocean
On Tue, Jun 04, 2013 at 12:09:24PM -0600, troxlinux wrote: You do not appear to have the sources for the 2.6.32-358.6.2.el6.x86_64 kernel installed. make: *** [modules] Error 1 What is the output of: ls -lat /lib/modules/`uname -r`/build and ls -lat /lib/modules/`uname -r`/build/ -- Russ Meyerriecks Digium, Inc. | Linux Kernel Developer 445 Jan Davis Drive NW - Huntsville, AL 35806 - USA direct: +1 256-428-6025 Check us out at: www.digium.com www.asterisk.org -- _ -- Bandwidth and Colocation Provided by http://www.api-digital.com -- New to Asterisk? Join us for a live introductory webinar every Thurs: http://www.asterisk.org/hello asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [asterisk-users] problem to install asterisk on vps digitalocean
ls -lat /lib/modules/`uname -r`/build lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 50 May 23 13:06 /lib/modules/2.6.32-358.6.2.el6.x86_64/build - ../../../usr/src/kernels/2.6.32-358.6.2.el6.x86_64 ls -lat /lib/modules/`uname -r`/build/ total 8 drwxr-xr-x 3 root root 4096 May 24 22:02 .. drwxr-xr-x 2 root root 4096 May 23 19:50 . lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 48 May 23 19:50 linux-headers-2.6.32-358.6.2.el6.x86_64 - /usr/src/linux-headers-2.6.32-358.6.2.el6.x86_64 lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 34 May 23 19:34 2.6.32-358.6.2.el6.x86_64 - kernels/2.6.32-358.6.2.el6.x86_64/ 2013/6/4 Russ Meyerriecks rmeyerrie...@digium.com On Tue, Jun 04, 2013 at 12:09:24PM -0600, troxlinux wrote: You do not appear to have the sources for the 2.6.32-358.6.2.el6.x86_64 kernel installed. make: *** [modules] Error 1 What is the output of: ls -lat /lib/modules/`uname -r`/build and ls -lat /lib/modules/`uname -r`/build/ -- Russ Meyerriecks Digium, Inc. | Linux Kernel Developer 445 Jan Davis Drive NW - Huntsville, AL 35806 - USA direct: +1 256-428-6025 Check us out at: www.digium.com www.asterisk.org -- _ -- Bandwidth and Colocation Provided by http://www.api-digital.com -- New to Asterisk? Join us for a live introductory webinar every Thurs: http://www.asterisk.org/hello asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users -- rickygm http://gnuforever.homelinux.com -- _ -- Bandwidth and Colocation Provided by http://www.api-digital.com -- New to Asterisk? Join us for a live introductory webinar every Thurs: http://www.asterisk.org/hello asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [asterisk-users] problem to install asterisk on vps digitalocean
On Tue, Jun 04, 2013 at 12:50:41PM -0600, troxlinux wrote: ls -lat /lib/modules/`uname -r`/build lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 50 May 23 13:06 /lib/modules/2.6.32-358.6.2.el6.x86_64/build - ../../../usr/src/kernels/2.6.32-358.6.2.el6.x86_64 This looks good. ls -lat /lib/modules/`uname -r`/build/ total 8 drwxr-xr-x 3 root root 4096 May 24 22:02 .. drwxr-xr-x 2 root root 4096 May 23 19:50 . lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 48 May 23 19:50 linux-headers-2.6.32-358.6.2.el6.x86_64 - /usr/src/linux-headers-2.6.32-358.6.2.el6.x86_64 lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 34 May 23 19:34 2.6.32-358.6.2.el6.x86_64 - kernels/2.6.32-358.6.2.el6.x86_64/ Oops. It looks like your build directory didn't get setup correctly. I'd take a look at your -devel and -headers rpms to see what's up. As a workaround, you may be able to specify your headers directly with: KSRC=/usr/src/linux-headers-2.6.32-358.6.2.el6.x86_64 make Also, thanks for using -rc! It really helps us out. -- Russ Meyerriecks Digium, Inc. | Linux Kernel Developer 445 Jan Davis Drive NW - Huntsville, AL 35806 - USA direct: +1 256-428-6025 Check us out at: www.digium.com www.asterisk.org -- _ -- Bandwidth and Colocation Provided by http://www.api-digital.com -- New to Asterisk? Join us for a live introductory webinar every Thurs: http://www.asterisk.org/hello asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [asterisk-users] problem to install asterisk on vps digitalocean
thnk Russ , I have seen the Makefile, but I see many KSRC, where exactly would put KVERS:=$(shell uname -r) endif ifndef KSRC ifneq (,$(wildcard /lib/modules/$(KVERS)/build)) KSRC:=/lib/modules/$(KVERS)/build else KSRC_SEARCH_PATH:=/usr/src/linux KSRC:=$(shell for dir in $(KSRC_SEARCH_PATH); do if [ -d $$dir ]; then echo $$dir; break; fi; done) endif endif 2013/6/4 Russ Meyerriecks rmeyerrie...@digium.com On Tue, Jun 04, 2013 at 12:50:41PM -0600, troxlinux wrote: ls -lat /lib/modules/`uname -r`/build lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 50 May 23 13:06 /lib/modules/2.6.32-358.6.2.el6.x86_64/build - ../../../usr/src/kernels/2.6.32-358.6.2.el6.x86_64 This looks good. ls -lat /lib/modules/`uname -r`/build/ total 8 drwxr-xr-x 3 root root 4096 May 24 22:02 .. drwxr-xr-x 2 root root 4096 May 23 19:50 . lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 48 May 23 19:50 linux-headers-2.6.32-358.6.2.el6.x86_64 - /usr/src/linux-headers-2.6.32-358.6.2.el6.x86_64 lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 34 May 23 19:34 2.6.32-358.6.2.el6.x86_64 - kernels/2.6.32-358.6.2.el6.x86_64/ Oops. It looks like your build directory didn't get setup correctly. I'd take a look at your -devel and -headers rpms to see what's up. As a workaround, you may be able to specify your headers directly with: KSRC=/usr/src/linux-headers-2.6.32-358.6.2.el6.x86_64 make Also, thanks for using -rc! It really helps us out. -- Russ Meyerriecks Digium, Inc. | Linux Kernel Developer 445 Jan Davis Drive NW - Huntsville, AL 35806 - USA direct: +1 256-428-6025 Check us out at: www.digium.com www.asterisk.org -- _ -- Bandwidth and Colocation Provided by http://www.api-digital.com -- New to Asterisk? Join us for a live introductory webinar every Thurs: http://www.asterisk.org/hello asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users -- rickygm http://gnuforever.homelinux.com -- _ -- Bandwidth and Colocation Provided by http://www.api-digital.com -- New to Asterisk? Join us for a live introductory webinar every Thurs: http://www.asterisk.org/hello asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [asterisk-users] problem to install asterisk on vps digitalocean
On Tue, Jun 04, 2013 at 01:33:56PM -0600, troxlinux wrote: thnk Russ , I have seen the Makefile, but I see many KSRC, where exactly would put KVERS:=$(shell uname -r) endif ifndef KSRC ifneq (,$(wildcard /lib/modules/$(KVERS)/build)) KSRC:=/lib/modules/$(KVERS)/build else KSRC_SEARCH_PATH:=/usr/src/linux KSRC:=$(shell for dir in $(KSRC_SEARCH_PATH); do if [ -d $$dir ]; then echo $$dir; break; fi; done) endif endif No need to modify the Makefile. (Unless you really want to). Just use the following command at your prompt. Bash will pass in the KSRC variable into the make system. KSRC=/usr/src/linux-headers-2.6.32-358.6.2.el6.x86_64 make Also, you might try forcing a reload of the -devel package, then seeing if that fixes the build directory. -- Russ Meyerriecks Digium, Inc. | Linux Kernel Developer 445 Jan Davis Drive NW - Huntsville, AL 35806 - USA direct: +1 256-428-6025 Check us out at: www.digium.com www.asterisk.org -- _ -- Bandwidth and Colocation Provided by http://www.api-digital.com -- New to Asterisk? Join us for a live introductory webinar every Thurs: http://www.asterisk.org/hello asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [asterisk-users] problem to install asterisk on vps digitalocean
On Tue, Jun 04, 2013 at 01:33:56PM -0600, troxlinux wrote: thnk Russ , I have seen the Makefile, but I see many KSRC, where exactly would put KVERS:=$(shell uname -r) endif ifndef KSRC ifneq (,$(wildcard /lib/modules/$(KVERS)/build)) KSRC:=/lib/modules/$(KVERS)/build else KSRC_SEARCH_PATH:=/usr/src/linux KSRC:=$(shell for dir in $(KSRC_SEARCH_PATH); do if [ -d $$dir ]; then echo $$dir; break; fi; done) endif endif make KSRC=/full/path/to/kernel/headers/directory Makefiles allow you to override variables in the command line: if you run 'make KSRC=whatever', the variable KSRC is defined, and hence make will not get into the part between 'ifndef KSRC' and the corresponding 'endif'. BTW: this is mentioned in the README of dahdi-linux: http://docs.tzafrir.org.il/dahdi-linux/#_kernel_source_headers -- Tzafrir Cohen icq#16849755 jabber:tzafrir.co...@xorcom.com +972-50-7952406 mailto:tzafrir.co...@xorcom.com http://www.xorcom.com iax:gu...@local.xorcom.com/tzafrir -- _ -- Bandwidth and Colocation Provided by http://www.api-digital.com -- New to Asterisk? Join us for a live introductory webinar every Thurs: http://www.asterisk.org/hello asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [asterisk-users] problem to install asterisk on vps digitalocean
Hi here again, I've tried both ways [root@shark dahdi-linux-2.6.3-rc1]# KSRC=/usr/src/linux-headers-2.6.32-358.6.2.el6.x86_64 make make -C drivers/dahdi/firmware firmware-loaders make[1]: Entering directory `/usr/src/dahdi-linux-2.6.3-rc1/drivers/dahdi/firmware' make[1]: Leaving directory `/usr/src/dahdi-linux-2.6.3-rc1/drivers/dahdi/firmware' You do not appear to have the sources for the 2.6.32-358.6.2.el6.x86_64 kernel installed. make: *** [modules] Error 1 [root@shark dahdi-linux-2.6.3-rc1]# make KSRC=/usr/src/linux-headers-2.6.32-358.6.2.el6.x86_64 make -C drivers/dahdi/firmware firmware-loaders make[1]: Entering directory `/usr/src/dahdi-linux-2.6.3-rc1/drivers/dahdi/firmware' make[1]: Leaving directory `/usr/src/dahdi-linux-2.6.3-rc1/drivers/dahdi/firmware' You do not appear to have the sources for the 2.6.32-358.6.2.el6.x86_64 kernel installed. make: *** [modules] Error 1 2013/6/4 Tzafrir Cohen tzafrir.co...@xorcom.com On Tue, Jun 04, 2013 at 01:33:56PM -0600, troxlinux wrote: thnk Russ , I have seen the Makefile, but I see many KSRC, where exactly would put KVERS:=$(shell uname -r) endif ifndef KSRC ifneq (,$(wildcard /lib/modules/$(KVERS)/build)) KSRC:=/lib/modules/$(KVERS)/build else KSRC_SEARCH_PATH:=/usr/src/linux KSRC:=$(shell for dir in $(KSRC_SEARCH_PATH); do if [ -d $$dir ]; then echo $$dir; break; fi; done) endif endif make KSRC=/full/path/to/kernel/headers/directory Makefiles allow you to override variables in the command line: if you run 'make KSRC=whatever', the variable KSRC is defined, and hence make will not get into the part between 'ifndef KSRC' and the corresponding 'endif'. BTW: this is mentioned in the README of dahdi-linux: http://docs.tzafrir.org.il/dahdi-linux/#_kernel_source_headers -- Tzafrir Cohen icq#16849755 jabber:tzafrir.co...@xorcom.com +972-50-7952406 mailto:tzafrir.co...@xorcom.com http://www.xorcom.com iax:gu...@local.xorcom.com/tzafrir -- _ -- Bandwidth and Colocation Provided by http://www.api-digital.com -- New to Asterisk? Join us for a live introductory webinar every Thurs: http://www.asterisk.org/hello asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users -- rickygm http://gnuforever.homelinux.com -- _ -- Bandwidth and Colocation Provided by http://www.api-digital.com -- New to Asterisk? Join us for a live introductory webinar every Thurs: http://www.asterisk.org/hello asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [asterisk-users] problem to install asterisk on vps digitalocean
t == troxlinux xserverli...@gmail.com writes: t I try to install asterisk on vps server , but fails when I want to t install dahdi There is no hardware for dahdi to use; you shouldn't need to install it. -JimC -- James Cloos cl...@jhcloos.com OpenPGP: 1024D/ED7DAEA6 -- _ -- Bandwidth and Colocation Provided by http://www.api-digital.com -- New to Asterisk? Join us for a live introductory webinar every Thurs: http://www.asterisk.org/hello asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [asterisk-users] problem to install asterisk on vps digitalocean
if it is true I have not any hardware but I need help to solve it and I think it could serve other future 2013/6/4 James Cloos cl...@jhcloos.com t == troxlinux xserverli...@gmail.com writes: t I try to install asterisk on vps server , but fails when I want to t install dahdi There is no hardware for dahdi to use; you shouldn't need to install it. -JimC -- James Cloos cl...@jhcloos.com OpenPGP: 1024D/ED7DAEA6 -- rickygm http://gnuforever.homelinux.com -- _ -- Bandwidth and Colocation Provided by http://www.api-digital.com -- New to Asterisk? Join us for a live introductory webinar every Thurs: http://www.asterisk.org/hello asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [asterisk-users] problem to install asterisk on vps digitalocean
On Tue, Jun 04, 2013 at 01:59:05PM -0600, troxlinux wrote: Hi here again, I've tried both ways [root@shark dahdi-linux-2.6.3-rc1]# KSRC=/usr/src/linux-headers-2.6.32-358.6.2.el6.x86_64 make make -C drivers/dahdi/firmware firmware-loaders make[1]: Entering directory `/usr/src/dahdi-linux-2.6.3-rc1/drivers/dahdi/firmware' make[1]: Leaving directory `/usr/src/dahdi-linux-2.6.3-rc1/drivers/dahdi/firmware' You do not appear to have the sources for the 2.6.32-358.6.2.el6.x86_64 kernel installed. make: *** [modules] Error 1 Let us see the following: ls -lat /usr/src/linux-headers-2.6.32-358.6.2.el6.x86_64 -- Russ Meyerriecks Digium, Inc. | Linux Kernel Developer 445 Jan Davis Drive NW - Huntsville, AL 35806 - USA direct: +1 256-428-6025 Check us out at: www.digium.com www.asterisk.org -- _ -- Bandwidth and Colocation Provided by http://www.api-digital.com -- New to Asterisk? Join us for a live introductory webinar every Thurs: http://www.asterisk.org/hello asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [asterisk-users] problem to install asterisk on vps digitalocean
ls -lat /usr/src/linux-headers-2.6.32-358.6.2.el6.x86_64 ls: cannot access /usr/src/linux-headers-2.6.32-358.6.2.el6.x86_64: No such file or directory 2013/6/4 Russ Meyerriecks rmeyerrie...@digium.com On Tue, Jun 04, 2013 at 01:59:05PM -0600, troxlinux wrote: Hi here again, I've tried both ways [root@shark dahdi-linux-2.6.3-rc1]# KSRC=/usr/src/linux-headers-2.6.32-358.6.2.el6.x86_64 make make -C drivers/dahdi/firmware firmware-loaders make[1]: Entering directory `/usr/src/dahdi-linux-2.6.3-rc1/drivers/dahdi/firmware' make[1]: Leaving directory `/usr/src/dahdi-linux-2.6.3-rc1/drivers/dahdi/firmware' You do not appear to have the sources for the 2.6.32-358.6.2.el6.x86_64 kernel installed. make: *** [modules] Error 1 Let us see the following: ls -lat /usr/src/linux-headers-2.6.32-358.6.2.el6.x86_64 -- Russ Meyerriecks Digium, Inc. | Linux Kernel Developer 445 Jan Davis Drive NW - Huntsville, AL 35806 - USA direct: +1 256-428-6025 Check us out at: www.digium.com www.asterisk.org -- _ -- Bandwidth and Colocation Provided by http://www.api-digital.com -- New to Asterisk? Join us for a live introductory webinar every Thurs: http://www.asterisk.org/hello asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users -- rickygm http://gnuforever.homelinux.com -- _ -- Bandwidth and Colocation Provided by http://www.api-digital.com -- New to Asterisk? Join us for a live introductory webinar every Thurs: http://www.asterisk.org/hello asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [asterisk-users] problem to install asterisk on vps digitalocean
On Tue, Jun 04, 2013 at 02:53:07PM -0600, troxlinux wrote: ls -lat /usr/src/linux-headers-2.6.32-358.6.2.el6.x86_64 ls: cannot access /usr/src/linux-headers-2.6.32-358.6.2.el6.x86_64: No such file or directory Oops. I got turned around by that broken symlink. Okay, i'm pretty sure your -devel package isn't installed correctly. Try to use yum to remove the -devel package and re-install it. Then check if the /lib/modules/`uname -r`/build directory was installed correctly. As a workaround, the following might work: Check to make sure that this file exists: /usr/src/kernels/2.6.32-358.6.2.el6.x86_64/.config If so, then try: KSRC=/usr/src/kernels/2.6.32-358.6.2.el6.x86_64/ make -- Russ Meyerriecks Digium, Inc. | Linux Kernel Developer 445 Jan Davis Drive NW - Huntsville, AL 35806 - USA direct: +1 256-428-6025 Check us out at: www.digium.com www.asterisk.org -- _ -- Bandwidth and Colocation Provided by http://www.api-digital.com -- New to Asterisk? Join us for a live introductory webinar every Thurs: http://www.asterisk.org/hello asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [asterisk-users] problem to install asterisk on vps digitalocean
excelente works fine ... thnk russ 2013/6/4 Russ Meyerriecks rmeyerrie...@digium.com On Tue, Jun 04, 2013 at 02:53:07PM -0600, troxlinux wrote: ls -lat /usr/src/linux-headers-2.6.32-358.6.2.el6.x86_64 ls: cannot access /usr/src/linux-headers-2.6.32-358.6.2.el6.x86_64: No such file or directory Oops. I got turned around by that broken symlink. Okay, i'm pretty sure your -devel package isn't installed correctly. Try to use yum to remove the -devel package and re-install it. Then check if the /lib/modules/`uname -r`/build directory was installed correctly. As a workaround, the following might work: Check to make sure that this file exists: /usr/src/kernels/2.6.32-358.6.2.el6.x86_64/.config If so, then try: KSRC=/usr/src/kernels/2.6.32-358.6.2.el6.x86_64/ make -- Russ Meyerriecks Digium, Inc. | Linux Kernel Developer 445 Jan Davis Drive NW - Huntsville, AL 35806 - USA direct: +1 256-428-6025 Check us out at: www.digium.com www.asterisk.org -- _ -- Bandwidth and Colocation Provided by http://www.api-digital.com -- New to Asterisk? Join us for a live introductory webinar every Thurs: http://www.asterisk.org/hello asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users -- rickygm http://gnuforever.homelinux.com -- _ -- Bandwidth and Colocation Provided by http://www.api-digital.com -- New to Asterisk? Join us for a live introductory webinar every Thurs: http://www.asterisk.org/hello asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
