Re: [Asterisk-Users] NetworkWorld article on Open Source Telephony

2004-06-11 Thread Gelson Dias Santos
Brent Franks wrote: Aside from echo issues that seem to be apparent with everyone occasionally (by everyone, those not running hardware T1 echo cans) I believe * is ready for the prime time. Integrators however should have a better I add to the list: hangup detection on FXO interfaces is

Re: [Asterisk-Users] NetworkWorld article on Open Source Telephony

2004-06-11 Thread gromit
I hope we can get ISDN in Sao Paulo - we have been told it is available as we are planning to deploy an Asterisk box in Brazil. Having said this, Asterisk is what users make it. If you want R2 signalling (and I think a lot of people in South America do!) then please get on and write the

RE: [Asterisk-Users] NetworkWorld article on Open Source Telephony

2004-06-10 Thread Senad Jordanovic
Maybe, maybe not... Depending how one designs the GUI! No, I think that GUIs though needed, do limit flexibility because the information density is limited on the user-system direction (they are better on the System-user end, however). However, this is NOT an argument not to package

RE: [Asterisk-Users] NetworkWorld article on Open Source Telephony

2004-06-10 Thread Chris Bond
Yes, you are right!! However, GUI for newbie's will help some people to overcome the first hurdles, and then plunge into more advanced stuff! One thing quote a lot of companies do is outsource the initial configuration, because they simply don't have the technical skills initially. But what

RE: [Asterisk-Users] NetworkWorld article on Open Source Telephony

2004-06-10 Thread Senad Jordanovic
Chris Bond wrote: Yes, you are right!! However, GUI for newbie's will help some people to overcome the first hurdles, and then plunge into more advanced stuff! One thing quote a lot of companies do is outsource the initial configuration, because they simply don't have the technical skills

Re: [Asterisk-Users] NetworkWorld article on Open Source Telephony

2004-06-09 Thread Steve Kennedy
On Tue, Jun 08, 2004 at 07:06:22PM -0700, George Pajari wrote: http://www.nwfusion.com/columnists/2004/0607faceoffyes.html There are very valid arguments in the contra argument. If you have existing equipment it's all about integration. Traditional telcos are moving to VoIP as are enterprise

Re: [Asterisk-Users] NetworkWorld article on Open Source Telephony

2004-06-09 Thread Steve Underwood
Steve Kennedy wrote: On Tue, Jun 08, 2004 at 07:06:22PM -0700, George Pajari wrote: http://www.nwfusion.com/columnists/2004/0607faceoffyes.html There are very valid arguments in the contra argument. If you have existing equipment it's all about integration. Traditional telcos are moving to

RE: [Asterisk-Users] NetworkWorld article on Open Source Telephony

2004-06-09 Thread Chris Bond
This is the traditional view of telecoms in large organisations. However it seems in a lot of large companies they are dumping their existing telecoms wholesale for an IP solution, on a site by site basis, as soon as the maintainence contract renewal comes around. It surprises me to see

Re: [Asterisk-Users] NetworkWorld article on Open Source Telephony

2004-06-09 Thread Jeremy McNamara
Chris Bond wrote: I think one thing * is lacking at the moment is a web interface to manage and add users and do anything you can do via a shell interface. If it had that but on a simplified level (oblessly you can have an advanced mode too). The power of asterisk comes from its method of

RE: [Asterisk-Users] NetworkWorld article on Open Source Telephony

2004-06-09 Thread Chris Bond
The power of asterisk comes from its method of config. If one wraps it with a GUI one will inherently limit the flexibility. Then since the GUI is what gets 'seen' people ~may~ take the lack of flexibility or even just the look and flow of the GUI to be a reflection on the power of

Re: [Asterisk-Users] NetworkWorld article on Open Source Telephony

2004-06-09 Thread Holger Schurig
I think one thing * is lacking at the moment is a web interface to manage and add users and do anything you can do via a shell interface. If it had that but on a simplified level (oblessly you can have an advanced mode too). There are many of them, and most of them aren't finished. The

Re: [Asterisk-Users] NetworkWorld article on Open Source Telephony

2004-06-09 Thread Steve Totaro
Message - From: Jeremy McNamara [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, June 09, 2004 9:34 AM Subject: Re: [Asterisk-Users] NetworkWorld article on Open Source Telephony Chris Bond wrote: I think one thing * is lacking at the moment is a web interface to manage and add

RE: [Asterisk-Users] NetworkWorld article on Open Source Telephony

2004-06-09 Thread Todd Lieberman
-Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Colin Anderson Sent: Wednesday, June 09, 2004 11:51 AM To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]' Subject: RE: [Asterisk-Users] NetworkWorld article on Open Source Telephony I like the way the 3com NBX system works. The web interface

RE: [Asterisk-Users] NetworkWorld article on Open Source Telephony

2004-06-09 Thread Pablo Endres
A GUI for asterisk is really not that hard to make if what you do is model the config files in the db. Once it's in the DB all you have to do is the right queries to rebuild the files when changes are made. Then the gui can be totaly adaptable for any use. I think it is posible to give a good

Re: [Asterisk-Users] NetworkWorld article on Open Source Telephony

2004-06-09 Thread Brent Franks
Of course, right now things like * do not have an adequate reputation to pick up much of that business. There is, however, a preparedness there for radical change. When you are able to purchase support contracts on Asterisk (E.g. Yearly (not hourly)) * will gain a lot of momentum. There

RE: [Asterisk-Users] NetworkWorld article on Open Source Telephony

2004-06-09 Thread Senad Jordanovic
Jeremy McNamara wrote: Chris Bond wrote: I think one thing * is lacking at the moment is a web interface to manage and add users and do anything you can do via a shell interface. If it had that but on a simplified level (oblessly you can have an advanced mode too). The power of

RE: [Asterisk-Users] NetworkWorld article on Open Source Telephony

2004-06-09 Thread Nik Martin
Need a good document for the Manager API before a GUI can be written!!!;) -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Pablo Endres Sent: Wednesday, June 09, 2004 11:35 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [Asterisk-Users] NetworkWorld

Re: [Asterisk-Users] NetworkWorld article on Open Source Telephony

2004-06-09 Thread Chris Travers
Senad Jordanovic wrote: Jeremy McNamara wrote: Chris Bond wrote: I think one thing * is lacking at the moment is a web interface to manage and add users and do anything you can do via a shell interface. If it had that but on a simplified level (oblessly you can have an advanced mode too).

Re: [Asterisk-Users] NetworkWorld article on Open Source Telephony

2004-06-08 Thread John Todd
At 7:06 PM -0700 on 6/8/04, George Pajari wrote: An interesting article for those needing ammunition to sell Asterisk within their organisation or to others: Is open source IP telephony ready for prime time? Yes by Zenas Hutcheson, St. Paul Venture Capital Network World, 06/07/04

Re: [Asterisk-Users] NetworkWorld article on Open Source Telephony

2004-06-08 Thread Kevin P. Fleming
John Todd wrote: I am not saying that this is good or bad, actually. It's neutral. The purpose of Open Source is not to defeat commercial implementations of the same features, but to provide a better solution for some people who want to get in there and make things work exactly they way they