RE: [Asterisk-Users] res_motv: Request for Comment

2004-04-08 Thread Andy Powell
Just curious, but why does it strike you as such a bad idea? Especially if it was disabled by default. I can understand you not wanting your system security or your personal privacy compromised, but I think it would be great to have it in place for: A) Manual activation for those who want

Re: [Asterisk-Users] res_motv: Request for Comment

2004-04-08 Thread Duane
Andy Powell wrote: ...but the core of my 'problem' is software that calls home. I agree a separate tool is possibly the best option here for privacy reasons... Simple solution seems to me, have a version.h file in each module and rather then calling home publish the version info that is

RE: [Asterisk-Users] res_motv: Request for Comment

2004-04-08 Thread Robert Jackson
I completely agree. This way you can get the same functionality on demand instead of automatically. -Original Message- From: Duane [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, April 08, 2004 5:23 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [Asterisk-Users] res_motv: Request for Comment Andy

Re: [Asterisk-Users] res_motv: Request for Comment

2004-04-08 Thread Steven Critchfield
I'm sure I haven't read all the relevant replies yet as I only completed those who didn't break the thread. My mindset would be to create a command line switch that returned the int you mentioned that has the version details. This int could then be fed to any app that could query your bugs

Re: [Asterisk-Users] res_motv: Request for Comment

2004-04-07 Thread Eric Wieling
It might be nice if safe_asterisk (or some part of asterisk) e-mailed a backtrace of the last asterisk .core file to Digium so they can see what causes Asterisk to core dump. I've not had asterisk crash in that way, but it might be nice for Digium. On Tue, 6 Apr 2004, Mark Spencer wrote:

RE: [Asterisk-Users] res_motv: Request for Comment

2004-04-07 Thread Florian Overkamp
Hi, -Original Message- Now, of course, any time you put a call home feature in, there are people who will be concerned about privacy. Clearly it will be able to be disabled, but I want to run my idea about deployment by everyone here and see if you guys had some ideas. The

Re: [Asterisk-Users] res_motv: Request for Comment

2004-04-07 Thread Matteo Brancaleoni
Hi a) The idea itself -- is it a good one or is it stupid? great idea. could be very useful if you don't have much time to track/test cvs version and/or the bugtracker b) The way to make it deployed without sneaking a call home in on anybody that doesn't want it? make it off by default,

Re: [Asterisk-Users] res_motv: Request for Comment

2004-04-07 Thread Andy Powell
I'd like to give this one 10 thumbs down. IMHO a bad idea, a nasty little bad idea.. evil, spawn of Satan. If this were implemented the first job of a new update would be to rip it out and flush it down the nearest toilet. I can only wait until we see M$ like activation implemented... oh the

Re: [Asterisk-Users] res_motv: Request for Comment

2004-04-07 Thread Olle E. Johansson
Interesting idea, but needs some refinement... Very few Asterisk installations are alike. I have a couple of FreeBSD asterisk installations without any zaptel stuff, without ISDN, without MGCP, Skinny and a lot of other modules stripped out. If any of those modules have a MAJOR bug, it's not my

Re: [Asterisk-Users] res_motv: Request for Comment

2004-04-07 Thread Eliot Robinson
excellent idea. eliot On Tue, 2004-04-06 at 23:31, Mark Spencer wrote: I've been considering the nature of Asterisk, its security, the bug tracker, and more... And i've come up with an interesting idea: A message of the version. The idea is that Asterisk has a compile time 32-bit unsigned

Re: [Asterisk-Users] res_motv: Request for Comment

2004-04-07 Thread Ariel Batista
Mark Spencer wrote: Any feedback on: a) The idea itself -- is it a good one or is it stupid? Now this is just my views. No I do not feel we need to be sending any information back unless we want to. Like someone else said a sub job that is turned off by default. My preference would be no

Re: [Asterisk-Users] res_motv: Request for Comment

2004-04-07 Thread Sean Rodger
I wouldn't want a call home feature that is enabled by default. I think it would be great though if * had some ability to update itself. Perhaps via a CLI command, as others have suggested. Something similar to RH's up2date would be great in my opinion. Anyway, thats my 2 cents. Sean Rodger

RE: [Asterisk-Users] res_motv: Request for Comment

2004-04-07 Thread Steven Sokol
Andy Powell Wrote: I'd like to give this one 10 thumbs down. IMHO a bad idea, a nasty little bad idea.. evil, spawn of Satan. If this were implemented the first job of a new update would be to rip it out and flush it down the nearest toilet. Just curious, but why does it strike you as such a

Re: [Asterisk-Users] res_motv: Request for Comment

2004-04-07 Thread James Hines
On Tue, 2004-04-06 at 23:31, Mark Spencer wrote: Any feedback on: a) The idea itself -- is it a good one or is it stupid? I like the idea of being able to see what updates/fixes are available vs. the code that I'm running. I think this would definitely be helpful to me. b) The way to make

Re: [Asterisk-Users] res_motv: Request for Comment

2004-04-07 Thread Matteo Brancaleoni
Hi. another (stupid) thing. don't call that function motv. motv is a name for another opensource project. Matteo. -- Matteo Brancaleoni Espia System Administrator Email : [EMAIL PROTECTED] Web : http://www.espia.it Phone : +39 02 70633354 - ext 201 IAX(2): [EMAIL PROTECTED] - ext 201

Re: [Asterisk-Users] res_motv: Request for Comment

2004-04-07 Thread asterisk
On Tue, 6 Apr 2004, Mark Spencer wrote: I've been considering the nature of Asterisk, its security, the bug tracker, and more... And i've come up with an interesting idea: A message of the version. The idea is that Asterisk has a compile time 32-bit unsigned int version which is incremented

RE: [Asterisk-Users] res_motv: Request for Comment

2004-04-07 Thread Storer, Darren
YES PLEASE. Wonderful Stuff! In my opinion just what the project needs. I deployed and supported many GPL and commercial SmoothWall (firewall) installs and was forced to poll a web page from time to time to see if any of my customers needed an urgent security patch applying...not a satisfactory

Re: [Asterisk-Users] res_motv: Request for Comment

2004-04-06 Thread Todd Lieberman
I'm keen on motv. I'll build a cgi wrapper for the logs if you need to assign the task to someone. TL On Tue, 2004-04-06 at 23:31, Mark Spencer wrote: I've been considering the nature of Asterisk, its security, the bug tracker, and more... And i've come up with an interesting idea: A

Re: [Asterisk-Users] res_motv: Request for Comment

2004-04-06 Thread Greg Boehnlein
On Tue, 6 Apr 2004, Mark Spencer wrote: I've been considering the nature of Asterisk, its security, the bug tracker, and more... And i've come up with an interesting idea: A message of the version. The idea is that Asterisk has a compile time 32-bit unsigned int version which is incremented

RE: [Asterisk-Users] res_motv: Request for Comment

2004-04-06 Thread Carey Jung
b) The way to make it deployed without sneaking a call home in on anybody that doesn't want it? Enable by default, and inform people how to shut it off. Either way, you'll piss someone off! ;) Might as well go for broke. :) Why not just make available a CLI command that can be run on

Re: [Asterisk-Users] res_motv: Request for Comment

2004-04-06 Thread Steve
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Tuesday 06 April 2004 11:31 pm, Mark Spencer wrote: I've been considering the nature of Asterisk, its security, the bug tracker, and more... And i've come up with an interesting idea: A message of the version. The idea is that Asterisk has a

Re: [Asterisk-Users] res_motv: Request for Comment

2004-04-06 Thread Panny Malialis
Any feedback on: a) The idea itself -- is it a good one or is it stupid? It's an excellent idea, another example of how committed Digium is to customer service! b) The way to make it deployed without sneaking a call home in on anybody that doesn't want it? Make it so it has to be