Re: [Asterisk-Users] voipjet down?
Kerry, You have a good point... about little companies who want termination.. still CEO may be willing to give them good termination... doesn't hurt to call. I'm a little confused though... where did I recommend voipjet? On 5/10/06, Kerry Garrison [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: You always recommend CEO when ever anyone asks about a service provider when nobody has asked about wholesale. Very very few people are interested in wholesale pricing. If you are a consultant you want to recommend a company to your clients that is the best fit for their needs. If you are an end user you also do not care about wholesale pricing. So yes, everytime someone asks for a recommendation you throw this incredibly expensive provider out there and if anyone points out the fact that they are the single most expensive provider available you turn around and say but that's not their wholesale price. Well, it IS the price they advertise on their website, and in fact, it is the ONLY price advertised on their site. So you just keep extolling the virtues of them and I will point out that it is not a good recommendation if they are looking for a cost effective voip service provider. Fair enough? Secondly, read your own message, you recommend voipjet for both situations when everyone is having issues with them. -Kerry -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Matt Sent: Wednesday, May 10, 2006 11:58 AM To: Asterisk Users Mailing List - Non-Commercial Discussion Subject: Re: [Asterisk-Users] voipjet down? I'm not in bed with CEO. All I do is use them... and want to see them get more customers. Sorry if I sounded upset... it just seems like Kerry never reads the e-mail every time this issue comes up. On 5/10/06, Jay Milk [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Whoa, kid, do you have a behavioral problem? No reason to get nasty. You're only confirming the long-held suspicion that you're in bed with calleveryone. Friendly references are one thing, but defending it at the expense of courtesy, that's suspicious. I don't think their customer service is all that top-notch anyway. I emailed them a pre-sales question on a weekday, and didn't get a response until almost 72 hours later. Maybe their customer service is better than their sales team, but in my experience, sales are generally the best staffed group in any service company. Lastly, the customer service quality of my termination provider is secondary. A business that relies on outgoing calls wouldn't even touch IP termination for those essential calls; they'd get a PRI. Everyone else can wait a few minutes while the phone system switches providers if one goes down. Matt wrote: Kerry, Do you have a reading problem? Both times that I have tried to help people out by suggesting a company I have personally used and have had good luck with, you reply and say that the rates are horrible. If you would read my e-mails you would see that the 3.9 cents is NOT for wholesale termination. If you want someone would will give cheap termination to end users, go use voipjet or whatever you want. If, on the other hand, you want some reliable cheap wholesale termination, go check out voipjet. On 5/10/06, Kerry Garrison [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I cant imagine anyone using voipjet as their only or main provider. And I'll say again, 3.9 cents for an ITSP is the most expensive I have found. Business grade termination is typically much less than that with top notch companies like https://www.nexvortex.com/ at 2.5c. ___ --Bandwidth and Colocation provided by Easynews.com -- Asterisk-Users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users ___ --Bandwidth and Colocation provided by Easynews.com -- Asterisk-Users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users ___ --Bandwidth and Colocation provided by Easynews.com -- Asterisk-Users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users ___ --Bandwidth and Colocation provided by Easynews.com -- Asterisk-Users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [Asterisk-Users] voipjet down?
And again I'll say... calleveryone.com for all your RELIABLE termination needs. And again... don't go by the rates on the page... those are the end-user rates... call them for wholesale rates.. they will be competitive to voipjet, and you get phone support and quick response time. Come on guys... if you are still using VoipJet, you don't care about your companies termination. On 5/9/06, Wes Baehr [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Even stranger is when calls (to the same server) work from one asterisk server account, but fail from another asterisk server account. Sometimes changing the server helps, sometimes it doesn't. Wes Baehr Ability Business Computing, Ltd. Office: 330.882.0455 x25 Cell: 330.882.0455 x35 Fax: 330.882.0455 [EMAIL PROTECTED] From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Kerry Garrison Sent: Tuesday, May 09, 2006 4:21 PM To: 'Asterisk Users Mailing List - Non-Commercial Discussion' Subject: RE: [Asterisk-Users] voipjet down? I havebent been able to call out in weeks and nobody returns emails to [EMAIL PROTECTED] From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Julius Barber :: GringoTel.com Sent: Tuesday, May 09, 2006 12:40 PM To: asterisk-users@lists.digium.com Subject: [Asterisk-Users] voipjet down? Somebody know if they are down? Let me know, Julius C. Barber [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.GringoTel.com Tel. USA: 1-408-705-1189 GringoTel - ahorre en sus llamadas internacionales. -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.392 / Virus Database: 268.5.5/334 - Release Date: 5/8/2006 -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.392 / Virus Database: 268.5.5/334 - Release Date: 5/8/2006 ___ --Bandwidth and Colocation provided by Easynews.com -- Asterisk-Users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users ___ --Bandwidth and Colocation provided by Easynews.com -- Asterisk-Users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
RE: [Asterisk-Users] voipjet down?
I use Plainvoip.. And I know a lot of the community does.. Rates are inexpensive and quality is excellent. brian From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Julius Barber :: GringoTel.com Sent: Tuesday, May 09, 2006 3:40 PM To: asterisk-users@lists.digium.com Subject: SPAM [Asterisk-Users] voipjet down? Somebody know if they are down? Let me know, Julius C. Barber [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.GringoTel.com Tel. USA: 1-408-705-1189 GringoTel - ahorre en sus llamadas internacionales. This email was scanned by: Mcafee GroupShield CONFIDENTIAL DISCLAMER All information provided in this email is considered confidential and proprietary of Planet Telecom, Inc. and Telecenter Inc. Use of this information by anyone other than the recipient or sender will be considered in breach of agreement. ___ --Bandwidth and Colocation provided by Easynews.com -- Asterisk-Users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
RE: [Asterisk-Users] voipjet down?
I cant imagine anyone using voipjet as their only or main provider. And I'll say again, 3.9 cents for an ITSP is the most expensive I have found. Business grade termination is typically much less than that with top notch companies like https://www.nexvortex.com/ at 2.5c. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Matt Sent: Wednesday, May 10, 2006 5:31 AM To: Asterisk Users Mailing List - Non-Commercial Discussion; Commercial and Business-Oriented Asterisk Discussion Subject: Re: [Asterisk-Users] voipjet down? And again I'll say... calleveryone.com for all your RELIABLE termination needs. And again... don't go by the rates on the page... those are the end-user rates... call them for wholesale rates.. they will be competitive to voipjet, and you get phone support and quick response time. Come on guys... if you are still using VoipJet, you don't care about your companies termination. On 5/9/06, Wes Baehr [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Even stranger is when calls (to the same server) work from one asterisk server account, but fail from another asterisk server account. Sometimes changing the server helps, sometimes it doesn't. Wes Baehr Ability Business Computing, Ltd. Office: 330.882.0455 x25 Cell: 330.882.0455 x35 Fax: 330.882.0455 [EMAIL PROTECTED] From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Kerry Garrison Sent: Tuesday, May 09, 2006 4:21 PM To: 'Asterisk Users Mailing List - Non-Commercial Discussion' Subject: RE: [Asterisk-Users] voipjet down? I havebent been able to call out in weeks and nobody returns emails to [EMAIL PROTECTED] From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Julius Barber :: GringoTel.com Sent: Tuesday, May 09, 2006 12:40 PM To: asterisk-users@lists.digium.com Subject: [Asterisk-Users] voipjet down? Somebody know if they are down? Let me know, Julius C. Barber [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.GringoTel.com Tel. USA: 1-408-705-1189 GringoTel - ahorre en sus llamadas internacionales. -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.392 / Virus Database: 268.5.5/334 - Release Date: 5/8/2006 -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.392 / Virus Database: 268.5.5/334 - Release Date: 5/8/2006 ___ --Bandwidth and Colocation provided by Easynews.com -- Asterisk-Users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users ___ --Bandwidth and Colocation provided by Easynews.com -- Asterisk-Users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users ___ --Bandwidth and Colocation provided by Easynews.com -- Asterisk-Users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
RE: [Asterisk-Users] voipjet down?
I will agree 3.9c is quite expensive for termination. Most providers hover around the 1 to 2c mark. 3.9c is just a way for them to cover all of their overhead. I have found a lot of providers even at 1c can be very stable and offer good services. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Kerry Garrison Sent: Wednesday, May 10, 2006 10:41 AM To: 'Asterisk Users Mailing List - Non-Commercial Discussion' Subject: RE: [Asterisk-Users] voipjet down? I cant imagine anyone using voipjet as their only or main provider. And I'll say again, 3.9 cents for an ITSP is the most expensive I have found. Business grade termination is typically much less than that with top notch companies like https://www.nexvortex.com/ at 2.5c. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Matt Sent: Wednesday, May 10, 2006 5:31 AM To: Asterisk Users Mailing List - Non-Commercial Discussion; Commercial and Business-Oriented Asterisk Discussion Subject: Re: [Asterisk-Users] voipjet down? And again I'll say... calleveryone.com for all your RELIABLE termination needs. And again... don't go by the rates on the page... those are the end-user rates... call them for wholesale rates.. they will be competitive to voipjet, and you get phone support and quick response time. Come on guys... if you are still using VoipJet, you don't care about your companies termination. On 5/9/06, Wes Baehr [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Even stranger is when calls (to the same server) work from one asterisk server account, but fail from another asterisk server account. Sometimes changing the server helps, sometimes it doesn't. Wes Baehr Ability Business Computing, Ltd. Office: 330.882.0455 x25 Cell: 330.882.0455 x35 Fax: 330.882.0455 [EMAIL PROTECTED] From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Kerry Garrison Sent: Tuesday, May 09, 2006 4:21 PM To: 'Asterisk Users Mailing List - Non-Commercial Discussion' Subject: RE: [Asterisk-Users] voipjet down? I havebent been able to call out in weeks and nobody returns emails to [EMAIL PROTECTED] From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Julius Barber :: GringoTel.com Sent: Tuesday, May 09, 2006 12:40 PM To: asterisk-users@lists.digium.com Subject: [Asterisk-Users] voipjet down? Somebody know if they are down? Let me know, Julius C. Barber [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.GringoTel.com Tel. USA: 1-408-705-1189 GringoTel - ahorre en sus llamadas internacionales. -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.392 / Virus Database: 268.5.5/334 - Release Date: 5/8/2006 -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.392 / Virus Database: 268.5.5/334 - Release Date: 5/8/2006 ___ --Bandwidth and Colocation provided by Easynews.com -- Asterisk-Users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users ___ --Bandwidth and Colocation provided by Easynews.com -- Asterisk-Users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users ___ --Bandwidth and Colocation provided by Easynews.com -- Asterisk-Users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users This email was scanned by: Mcafee GroupShield CONFIDENTIAL DISCLAMER All information provided in this email is considered confidential and proprietary of Planet Telecom, Inc. and Telecenter Inc. Use of this information by anyone other than the recipient or sender will be considered in breach of agreement. ___ --Bandwidth and Colocation provided by Easynews.com -- Asterisk-Users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [Asterisk-Users] voipjet down?
Kerry, Do you have a reading problem? Both times that I have tried to help people out by suggesting a company I have personally used and have had good luck with, you reply and say that the rates are horrible. If you would read my e-mails you would see that the 3.9 cents is NOT for wholesale termination. If you want someone would will give cheap termination to end users, go use voipjet or whatever you want. If, on the other hand, you want some reliable cheap wholesale termination, go check out voipjet. On 5/10/06, Kerry Garrison [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I cant imagine anyone using voipjet as their only or main provider. And I'll say again, 3.9 cents for an ITSP is the most expensive I have found. Business grade termination is typically much less than that with top notch companies like https://www.nexvortex.com/ at 2.5c. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Matt Sent: Wednesday, May 10, 2006 5:31 AM To: Asterisk Users Mailing List - Non-Commercial Discussion; Commercial and Business-Oriented Asterisk Discussion Subject: Re: [Asterisk-Users] voipjet down? And again I'll say... calleveryone.com for all your RELIABLE termination needs. And again... don't go by the rates on the page... those are the end-user rates... call them for wholesale rates.. they will be competitive to voipjet, and you get phone support and quick response time. Come on guys... if you are still using VoipJet, you don't care about your companies termination. On 5/9/06, Wes Baehr [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Even stranger is when calls (to the same server) work from one asterisk server account, but fail from another asterisk server account. Sometimes changing the server helps, sometimes it doesn't. Wes Baehr Ability Business Computing, Ltd. Office: 330.882.0455 x25 Cell: 330.882.0455 x35 Fax: 330.882.0455 [EMAIL PROTECTED] From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Kerry Garrison Sent: Tuesday, May 09, 2006 4:21 PM To: 'Asterisk Users Mailing List - Non-Commercial Discussion' Subject: RE: [Asterisk-Users] voipjet down? I havebent been able to call out in weeks and nobody returns emails to [EMAIL PROTECTED] From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Julius Barber :: GringoTel.com Sent: Tuesday, May 09, 2006 12:40 PM To: asterisk-users@lists.digium.com Subject: [Asterisk-Users] voipjet down? Somebody know if they are down? Let me know, Julius C. Barber [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.GringoTel.com Tel. USA: 1-408-705-1189 GringoTel - ahorre en sus llamadas internacionales. -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.392 / Virus Database: 268.5.5/334 - Release Date: 5/8/2006 -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.392 / Virus Database: 268.5.5/334 - Release Date: 5/8/2006 ___ --Bandwidth and Colocation provided by Easynews.com -- Asterisk-Users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users ___ --Bandwidth and Colocation provided by Easynews.com -- Asterisk-Users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users ___ --Bandwidth and Colocation provided by Easynews.com -- Asterisk-Users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users ___ --Bandwidth and Colocation provided by Easynews.com -- Asterisk-Users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
RE: [Asterisk-Users] voipjet down?
ok then.. Where are their wholesale prices? -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Matt Sent: Wednesday, May 10, 2006 1:09 PM To: Asterisk Users Mailing List - Non-Commercial Discussion Subject: Re: [Asterisk-Users] voipjet down? Kerry, Do you have a reading problem? Both times that I have tried to help people out by suggesting a company I have personally used and have had good luck with, you reply and say that the rates are horrible. If you would read my e-mails you would see that the 3.9 cents is NOT for wholesale termination. If you want someone would will give cheap termination to end users, go use voipjet or whatever you want. If, on the other hand, you want some reliable cheap wholesale termination, go check out voipjet. On 5/10/06, Kerry Garrison [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I cant imagine anyone using voipjet as their only or main provider. And I'll say again, 3.9 cents for an ITSP is the most expensive I have found. Business grade termination is typically much less than that with top notch companies like https://www.nexvortex.com/ at 2.5c. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Matt Sent: Wednesday, May 10, 2006 5:31 AM To: Asterisk Users Mailing List - Non-Commercial Discussion; Commercial and Business-Oriented Asterisk Discussion Subject: Re: [Asterisk-Users] voipjet down? And again I'll say... calleveryone.com for all your RELIABLE termination needs. And again... don't go by the rates on the page... those are the end-user rates... call them for wholesale rates.. they will be competitive to voipjet, and you get phone support and quick response time. Come on guys... if you are still using VoipJet, you don't care about your companies termination. On 5/9/06, Wes Baehr [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Even stranger is when calls (to the same server) work from one asterisk server account, but fail from another asterisk server account. Sometimes changing the server helps, sometimes it doesn't. Wes Baehr Ability Business Computing, Ltd. Office: 330.882.0455 x25 Cell: 330.882.0455 x35 Fax: 330.882.0455 [EMAIL PROTECTED] From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Kerry Garrison Sent: Tuesday, May 09, 2006 4:21 PM To: 'Asterisk Users Mailing List - Non-Commercial Discussion' Subject: RE: [Asterisk-Users] voipjet down? I havebent been able to call out in weeks and nobody returns emails to [EMAIL PROTECTED] From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Julius Barber :: GringoTel.com Sent: Tuesday, May 09, 2006 12:40 PM To: asterisk-users@lists.digium.com Subject: [Asterisk-Users] voipjet down? Somebody know if they are down? Let me know, Julius C. Barber [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.GringoTel.com Tel. USA: 1-408-705-1189 GringoTel - ahorre en sus llamadas internacionales. -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.392 / Virus Database: 268.5.5/334 - Release Date: 5/8/2006 -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.392 / Virus Database: 268.5.5/334 - Release Date: 5/8/2006 ___ --Bandwidth and Colocation provided by Easynews.com -- Asterisk-Users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users ___ --Bandwidth and Colocation provided by Easynews.com -- Asterisk-Users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users ___ --Bandwidth and Colocation provided by Easynews.com -- Asterisk-Users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users ___ --Bandwidth and Colocation provided by Easynews.com -- Asterisk-Users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users This email was scanned by: Mcafee GroupShield CONFIDENTIAL DISCLAMER All information provided in this email is considered confidential and proprietary of Planet Telecom, Inc. and Telecenter Inc. Use of this information by anyone other than the recipient or sender will be considered in breach of agreement. ___ --Bandwidth and Colocation provided by Easynews.com -- Asterisk-Users mailing list
Re: [Asterisk-Users] voipjet down?
Whoa, down boy! Kerry is just saying that people who are using voipjet are most likely not in the market for wholesale termination. That being the case, the higher rates are going to make these users shy away. It's great that you've found their rates to be comparable for wholesale termination, and even better that their customer service is top notch. If you need good quality wholesale termination with great customer service, take Matt's advice and check out
CallEveryone.com. But if you're a standard business just needing a business class ITSP, you won't get the better rates from them. Awesome customer service is great to have, but in the end, it's usually the mighty dollar that wins that fight.
AlexOn 5/10/06, Matt [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Kerry,Do you have a reading problem? Both times that I have tried to helppeople out by suggesting a company I have personally used and have hadgood luck with, you reply and say that the rates are horrible. If
you would read my e-mails you would see that the 3.9 cents is NOT forwholesale termination.If you want someone would will give cheap termination to end users, gouse voipjet or whatever you want.
If, on the other hand, you want some reliable cheap wholesaletermination, go check out voipjet.On 5/10/06, Kerry Garrison [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I cant imagine anyone using voipjet as their only or main provider. And I'll say again, 3.9 cents for an ITSP is the most expensive I have found. Business grade termination is typically much less than that with top notch
companies like https://www.nexvortex.com/ at 2.5c. -Original Message- From:
[EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Matt Sent: Wednesday, May 10, 2006 5:31 AM
To: Asterisk Users Mailing List - Non-Commercial Discussion; Commercial and Business-Oriented Asterisk Discussion Subject: Re: [Asterisk-Users] voipjet down? And again I'll say...
calleveryone.com for all your RELIABLE termination needs.And again... don't go by the rates on the page... those are the end-user rates... call them for wholesale
rates.. they will be competitive to voipjet, and you get phone support and quick response time.Come on guys... if you are still using VoipJet, you don't care about your companies termination.
On 5/9/06, Wes Baehr [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Even stranger is when calls (to the same server) work from one
asterisk server account, but fail from another asterisk server account. Sometimes changing the server helps, sometimes it doesn't.
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Re: [Asterisk-Users] voipjet down?
Whoa, kid, do you have a behavioral problem? No reason to get nasty. You're only confirming the long-held suspicion that you're in bed with calleveryone. Friendly references are one thing, but defending it at the expense of courtesy, that's suspicious. I don't think their customer service is all that top-notch anyway. I emailed them a pre-sales question on a weekday, and didn't get a response until almost 72 hours later. Maybe their customer service is better than their sales team, but in my experience, sales are generally the best staffed group in any service company. Lastly, the customer service quality of my termination provider is secondary. A business that relies on outgoing calls wouldn't even touch IP termination for those essential calls; they'd get a PRI. Everyone else can wait a few minutes while the phone system switches providers if one goes down. Matt wrote: Kerry, Do you have a reading problem? Both times that I have tried to help people out by suggesting a company I have personally used and have had good luck with, you reply and say that the rates are horrible. If you would read my e-mails you would see that the 3.9 cents is NOT for wholesale termination. If you want someone would will give cheap termination to end users, go use voipjet or whatever you want. If, on the other hand, you want some reliable cheap wholesale termination, go check out voipjet. On 5/10/06, Kerry Garrison [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I cant imagine anyone using voipjet as their only or main provider. And I'll say again, 3.9 cents for an ITSP is the most expensive I have found. Business grade termination is typically much less than that with top notch companies like https://www.nexvortex.com/ at 2.5c. ___ --Bandwidth and Colocation provided by Easynews.com -- Asterisk-Users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [Asterisk-Users] voipjet down?
I'm not in bed with CEO. All I do is use them... and want to see them get more customers. Sorry if I sounded upset... it just seems like Kerry never reads the e-mail every time this issue comes up. On 5/10/06, Jay Milk [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Whoa, kid, do you have a behavioral problem? No reason to get nasty. You're only confirming the long-held suspicion that you're in bed with calleveryone. Friendly references are one thing, but defending it at the expense of courtesy, that's suspicious. I don't think their customer service is all that top-notch anyway. I emailed them a pre-sales question on a weekday, and didn't get a response until almost 72 hours later. Maybe their customer service is better than their sales team, but in my experience, sales are generally the best staffed group in any service company. Lastly, the customer service quality of my termination provider is secondary. A business that relies on outgoing calls wouldn't even touch IP termination for those essential calls; they'd get a PRI. Everyone else can wait a few minutes while the phone system switches providers if one goes down. Matt wrote: Kerry, Do you have a reading problem? Both times that I have tried to help people out by suggesting a company I have personally used and have had good luck with, you reply and say that the rates are horrible. If you would read my e-mails you would see that the 3.9 cents is NOT for wholesale termination. If you want someone would will give cheap termination to end users, go use voipjet or whatever you want. If, on the other hand, you want some reliable cheap wholesale termination, go check out voipjet. On 5/10/06, Kerry Garrison [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I cant imagine anyone using voipjet as their only or main provider. And I'll say again, 3.9 cents for an ITSP is the most expensive I have found. Business grade termination is typically much less than that with top notch companies like https://www.nexvortex.com/ at 2.5c. ___ --Bandwidth and Colocation provided by Easynews.com -- Asterisk-Users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users ___ --Bandwidth and Colocation provided by Easynews.com -- Asterisk-Users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [Asterisk-Users] voipjet down?
If you want someone would will give cheap termination to end users, go use voipjet or whatever you want. If, on the other hand, you want some reliable cheap wholesale termination, go check out voipjet. glad to know theres options out there ! - Shidan ___ --Bandwidth and Colocation provided by Easynews.com -- Asterisk-Users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
RE: [Asterisk-Users] voipjet down?
You always recommend CEO when ever anyone asks about a service provider when nobody has asked about wholesale. Very very few people are interested in wholesale pricing. If you are a consultant you want to recommend a company to your clients that is the best fit for their needs. If you are an end user you also do not care about wholesale pricing. So yes, everytime someone asks for a recommendation you throw this incredibly expensive provider out there and if anyone points out the fact that they are the single most expensive provider available you turn around and say but that's not their wholesale price. Well, it IS the price they advertise on their website, and in fact, it is the ONLY price advertised on their site. So you just keep extolling the virtues of them and I will point out that it is not a good recommendation if they are looking for a cost effective voip service provider. Fair enough? Secondly, read your own message, you recommend voipjet for both situations when everyone is having issues with them. -Kerry -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Matt Sent: Wednesday, May 10, 2006 11:58 AM To: Asterisk Users Mailing List - Non-Commercial Discussion Subject: Re: [Asterisk-Users] voipjet down? I'm not in bed with CEO. All I do is use them... and want to see them get more customers. Sorry if I sounded upset... it just seems like Kerry never reads the e-mail every time this issue comes up. On 5/10/06, Jay Milk [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Whoa, kid, do you have a behavioral problem? No reason to get nasty. You're only confirming the long-held suspicion that you're in bed with calleveryone. Friendly references are one thing, but defending it at the expense of courtesy, that's suspicious. I don't think their customer service is all that top-notch anyway. I emailed them a pre-sales question on a weekday, and didn't get a response until almost 72 hours later. Maybe their customer service is better than their sales team, but in my experience, sales are generally the best staffed group in any service company. Lastly, the customer service quality of my termination provider is secondary. A business that relies on outgoing calls wouldn't even touch IP termination for those essential calls; they'd get a PRI. Everyone else can wait a few minutes while the phone system switches providers if one goes down. Matt wrote: Kerry, Do you have a reading problem? Both times that I have tried to help people out by suggesting a company I have personally used and have had good luck with, you reply and say that the rates are horrible. If you would read my e-mails you would see that the 3.9 cents is NOT for wholesale termination. If you want someone would will give cheap termination to end users, go use voipjet or whatever you want. If, on the other hand, you want some reliable cheap wholesale termination, go check out voipjet. On 5/10/06, Kerry Garrison [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I cant imagine anyone using voipjet as their only or main provider. And I'll say again, 3.9 cents for an ITSP is the most expensive I have found. Business grade termination is typically much less than that with top notch companies like https://www.nexvortex.com/ at 2.5c. ___ --Bandwidth and Colocation provided by Easynews.com -- Asterisk-Users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users ___ --Bandwidth and Colocation provided by Easynews.com -- Asterisk-Users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users ___ --Bandwidth and Colocation provided by Easynews.com -- Asterisk-Users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
RE: [Asterisk-Users] voipjet down?
Theyve been having lots of problems over the past week. Sometimes theyre up, sometimes theyre down, sometimes calls are rejected, sometimes calls just time out. Wes Baehr Ability Business Computing, Ltd. Office: 330.882.0455 x25 Cell: 330.882.0455 x35 Fax: 330.882.0455 [EMAIL PROTECTED] From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Julius Barber :: GringoTel.com Sent: Tuesday, May 09, 2006 3:40 PM To: asterisk-users@lists.digium.com Subject: [Asterisk-Users] voipjet down? Somebody know if they are down? Let me know, Julius C. Barber [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.GringoTel.com Tel. USA: 1-408-705-1189 GringoTel - ahorre en sus llamadas internacionales. -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.392 / Virus Database: 268.5.5/334 - Release Date: 5/8/2006 -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.392 / Virus Database: 268.5.5/334 - Release Date: 5/8/2006 ___ --Bandwidth and Colocation provided by Easynews.com -- Asterisk-Users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
RE: [Asterisk-Users] voipjet down?
Yes this is terrible, Ive been with them for a month without problems and am having 12,000 minutes to the US and now I am almost gone L anybody knows how to contact John? Thnaks, Julius C. Barber [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.GringoTel.com Tel. USA: 1-408-705-1189 GringoTel - ahorre en sus llamadas internacionales. De: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] En nombre de Wes Baehr Enviado el: Tuesday, May 09, 2006 3:16 PM Para: 'Asterisk Users Mailing List - Non-Commercial Discussion' Asunto: RE: [Asterisk-Users] voipjet down? Theyve been having lots of problems over the past week. Sometimes theyre up, sometimes theyre down, sometimes calls are rejected, sometimes calls just time out. Wes Baehr Ability Business Computing, Ltd. Office: 330.882.0455 x25 Cell: 330.882.0455 x35 Fax: 330.882.0455 [EMAIL PROTECTED] From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Julius Barber :: GringoTel.com Sent: Tuesday, May 09, 2006 3:40 PM To: asterisk-users@lists.digium.com Subject: [Asterisk-Users] voipjet down? Somebody know if they are down? Let me know, Julius C. Barber [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.GringoTel.com Tel. USA: 1-408-705-1189 GringoTel - ahorre en sus llamadas internacionales. -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.392 / Virus Database: 268.5.5/334 - Release Date: 5/8/2006 -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.392 / Virus Database: 268.5.5/334 - Release Date: 5/8/2006 ___ --Bandwidth and Colocation provided by Easynews.com -- Asterisk-Users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
RE: [Asterisk-Users] voipjet down?
I havebent been able to call out in weeks and nobody returns emails to [EMAIL PROTECTED] From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Julius Barber :: GringoTel.comSent: Tuesday, May 09, 2006 12:40 PMTo: asterisk-users@lists.digium.comSubject: [Asterisk-Users] voipjet down? Somebody know if they are down? Let me know, Julius C. Barber[EMAIL PROTECTED]www.GringoTel.comTel. USA: 1-408-705-1189GringoTel - ahorre en sus llamadas internacionales. ___ --Bandwidth and Colocation provided by Easynews.com -- Asterisk-Users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [Asterisk-Users] voipjet down?
Kerry Garrison wrote: I havebent been able to call out in weeks and nobody returns emails to [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] *From:* [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] *On Behalf Of *Julius Barber :: GringoTel.com *Sent:* Tuesday, May 09, 2006 12:40 PM *To:* asterisk-users@lists.digium.com *Subject:* [Asterisk-Users] voipjet down? Somebody know if they are down? Let me know, I just made a few calls without problems. Seems I have to change server IPs every so often (three, four times in the last week), but hey, you get what you pay for, and it's still a great deal in termination. If the calls don't go through, we all have backup providers anyway, don't we? ___ --Bandwidth and Colocation provided by Easynews.com -- Asterisk-Users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
RE: [Asterisk-Users] voipjet down?
Even stranger is when calls (to the same server) work from one asterisk server account, but fail from another asterisk server account. Sometimes changing the server helps, sometimes it doesnt. Wes Baehr Ability Business Computing, Ltd. Office: 330.882.0455 x25 Cell: 330.882.0455 x35 Fax: 330.882.0455 [EMAIL PROTECTED] From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Kerry Garrison Sent: Tuesday, May 09, 2006 4:21 PM To: 'Asterisk Users Mailing List - Non-Commercial Discussion' Subject: RE: [Asterisk-Users] voipjet down? I havebent been able to call out in weeks and nobody returns emails to [EMAIL PROTECTED] From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Julius Barber :: GringoTel.com Sent: Tuesday, May 09, 2006 12:40 PM To: asterisk-users@lists.digium.com Subject: [Asterisk-Users] voipjet down? Somebody know if they are down? Let me know, Julius C. Barber [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.GringoTel.com Tel. USA: 1-408-705-1189 GringoTel - ahorre en sus llamadas internacionales. -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.392 / Virus Database: 268.5.5/334 - Release Date: 5/8/2006 -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.392 / Virus Database: 268.5.5/334 - Release Date: 5/8/2006 ___ --Bandwidth and Colocation provided by Easynews.com -- Asterisk-Users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
