Re: [asterisk-users] [Announce] Web-MeetMe V3.0.1 released

2007-05-03 Thread Ondrej Valousek
Hello Dan,

I finally got some time to test the SVN branches and here are my comments:

 One thing that does not work for sure - I had some problems to
 terminate the running conference from within the web page - I 
 just clicked the button and nothing happened.
 
 This is likely a manager.conf security issue, but it could be
 a problem in the php code.  I just tested branches/3.0 and
 trunk against 1.4.1 and it worked as expected.
 If you set core verbose to 10 and click on 'End Now' the console
 should display a message like this:
   app_meetme.c:941 meetme_cmd: Cmdline: 41251|k|1

 At this point this would be a topic better suited for the support
 forums on SF.
   
I browsed the php sources trying to understand and from what I see, the
End Now button does nothing else than kicking all attendees - not
exactly what I would expect. I would expect this action to terminate the
conference immediately so, it could be seen in the Past conferences
list. Also, some javascript popup dialog confirming this action would be
nice. The same is valid for the Extend button - it works, but from the
user prospective, nothing happens - I would expect some dialog box like
The conference # has been extended by 10 minutes.
This is the only missing piece, I would say - thanks :-)

Ondrej

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RE: [asterisk-users] [Announce] Web-MeetMe V3.0.1 released

2007-05-03 Thread Dan Austin
Ondrej wrote:
 I finally got some time to test the SVN branches and 
 here are my comments:
Cool.

 One thing that does not work for sure - I had some problems to
 terminate the running conference from within the web page - I 
 just clicked the button and nothing happened.
 
 This is likely a manager.conf security issue, but it could be
 a problem in the php code.  I just tested branches/3.0 and
 trunk against 1.4.1 and it worked as expected.
 If you set core verbose to 10 and click on 'End Now' the console
 should display a message like this:
  app_meetme.c:941 meetme_cmd: Cmdline: 41251|k|1

 At this point this would be a topic better suited for the support
 forums on SF.
   
 I browsed the php sources trying to understand and from what 
 I see, the End Now button does nothing else than kicking all
 attendees - not exactly what I would expect. I would expect this
  action to terminate the conference immediately so, it could be
 seen in the Past conferences list. Also, some javascript popup
 dialog confirming this action would be nice. The same is valid for
 the Extend button - it works, but from the user prospective, 
 nothing happens - I would expect some dialog box like The
 conference # has been extended by 10 minutes. This is the 
 only missing piece, I would say - thanks :-)

Oh!  Those are great ideas and fairly easy to add.
I'm about to be offline for two weeks, and need to get updated
releases of 2.X and 3.X out before I go.  Your ideas are now
on the ToDo list and I'll try to get them integrated and
released by mid-June.

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Re: [asterisk-users] [Announce] Web-MeetMe V3.0.1 released

2007-04-18 Thread Ondrej Valousek
Hello Dan,

 What version of Asterisk are you using?  I've had recording 
 working with SVN before 1.4, the 1.4 betas and currently 1.4.1.
 *** Update ***
 Recordings are tied to a moderator joining the conference at this
 time.  I may need to change that based on feedback/requests to
 do so.
 *** Update ***
   
Please include a note in the documentation for that (and maybe even note
that in the web page for configuring conferences) !! It is really needed.
Also please update the web page of each (past) conference with the link
from where the recording could be downloaded
 I've never user the sql option for the user/participant.  It was 
 contributed by another user of the suite.  Depending on the 
 technology the caller used to call into the conference you should
 have their Caller-id number and possibly their Caller-id name.  
 What additional Information would you like to see?

   
Also - this is probably again a problem of the missing documentation,
but let me clarify my problem in detail:
If I create a conference, there is a button email participants. If I
click that button, nothing happens (). How does the whole email
procedure works? How does the web-meetme gather the email addresses of
the participants? There is no way how to configure participants to the
conference.
My understanding was, that participants are informed about conference
start/end/extended by this procedure. But since there is no way how the
application could find their email addresses, I just do not know how it
should work.
From the sources I see that it uses SQL database users - but since I use
AD, my users database is empty
 Contributions welcome.  There is a new How-To up on SF that covers
 the installation on a step by step basis.  I've tried to comment
 the configuration files to make it clear how each setting works.
 Some features have been contributed to the project, and I am sorry
 to say that beyond making sure they integrate cleanly, I have not
 taken enough time to document their setup and use.  I guess I should
 ask for supporting documentation before merging the changes/features.

   
I agree, because without any documentation is the feature de-facto
unusable. I am happy to contribute to the project but at this stage it
is (due to the bugs mentioned above) for me unfortunately still quite
far from being promising. Lot of work has been done, but there are still
some important pieces to be done.
 Thank you for the feedback.  I am surprised almost daily how many
 people have found it useful.  I did not really expect it to be as
 popular as it has become, and I am more than happy to try and 
 address any problems.
   
Glad to hear that :-)
Ondrej
 Thanks,
 Dan
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RE: [asterisk-users] [Announce] Web-MeetMe V3.0.1 released

2007-04-18 Thread Dan Austin
Ondrej wrote:
 What version of Asterisk are you using?  I've had recording 
 working with SVN before 1.4, the 1.4 betas and currently 1.4.1.
 *** Update ***
 Recordings are tied to a moderator joining the conference at this
 time.  I may need to change that based on feedback/requests to
 do so.
 *** Update ***


 Please include a note in the documentation for that (and maybe 
 even note that in the web page for configuring conferences) !! 
 It is really needed.
 Also please update the web page of each (past) conference with 
 the link from where the recording could be downloaded

The links to download a recording are already on the past 
conference page IF the conference was recorded.
I will try to make time to update the README and installation
How-To on SF.  I also plan to add mouse-over help text to the
UI, but I do not know when I will get to it (real work takes
priority)

 I've never user the sql option for the user/participant.  It was 
 contributed by another user of the suite.  Depending on the 
 technology the caller used to call into the conference you should
 have their Caller-id number and possibly their Caller-id name.  
 What additional Information would you like to see?
 
 Also - this is probably again a problem of the missing 
 documentation, but let me clarify my problem in detail:
 If I create a conference, there is a button email participants.
 If I click that button, nothing happens (). How does the 
 whole email procedure works? How does the web-meetme gather the
 email addresses of the participants? There is no way how to 
 configure participants to the conference.
 My understanding was, that participants are informed about 
 conference start/end/extended by this procedure. But since there 
 is no way how the application could find their email addresses, I
  just do not know how it should work.

OK, I get it now.  This is a side effect of offering too much
flexibility.  I use and prefer the client-side mailer, and my
users simply get an new message draft in their email client that
they can add the participants to.  If you use the server-side mailer,
then there is currently no way to add participants to the notice
other than to email the details to yourself and forward them.
I'd happily integrate an AD address book function, but it is
Not a feature I or my users would use, so I cannot dedicate too
much time to writing it myself.

 From the sources I see that it uses SQL database users - but 
 since I use AD, my users database is empty
 Contributions welcome.  There is a new How-To up on SF that covers
 the installation on a step by step basis.  I've tried to comment
 the configuration files to make it clear how each setting works.
 Some features have been contributed to the project, and I am sorry
 to say that beyond making sure they integrate cleanly, I have not
 taken enough time to document their setup and use.  I guess I 
 should ask for supporting documentation before merging the 
 changes/features.
 
 I agree, because without any documentation is the feature de-facto
 unusable. I am happy to contribute to the project but at this stage
 it is (due to the bugs mentioned above) for me unfortunately still
 quite far from being promising. Lot of work has been done, but 
 here are still some important pieces to be done.
I'm sorry to hear that.  I know it has some rough edges, but many
people are using it.  Some feature combinations work better/are
better documented than others.  If you are interested in following
the development progress, I recommend monitoring the forums for
the project on SF.

I also hope I am not sounding if I do not care about the changes
Or suggestions you are making.  I agree will most if not all of
them, but I need to focus on the problems that impact my users
first and if anytime is left I can work on features that will
not be used by them, but that others will enjoy.

 Thank you for the feedback.  I am surprised almost daily how many
 people have found it useful.  I did not really expect it to be as
 popular as it has become, and I am more than happy to try and 
 address any problems.


 Glad to hear that :-)
 Ondrej

Dan
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Re: [asterisk-users] [Announce] Web-MeetMe V3.0.1 released

2007-04-18 Thread Bruce Reeves



Also - this is probably again a problem of the missing documentation,
but let me clarify my problem in detail:
If I create a conference, there is a button email participants. If I
click that button, nothing happens (). How does the whole email
procedure works? How does the web-meetme gather the email addresses of
the participants? There is no way how to configure participants to the
conference.



I have seen this with my setup, I am using the client mode for emails, when
using firefox. Strange enough IE works. Most of our users are on IE so I
have not researched the why.

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Nortex Networks
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Re: [asterisk-users] [Announce] Web-MeetMe V3.0.1 released

2007-04-18 Thread Bruce Reeves



Also - this is probably again a problem of the missing documentation,
but let me clarify my problem in detail:
If I create a conference, there is a button email participants. If I
click that button, nothing happens (). How does the whole email
procedure works? How does the web-meetme gather the email addresses of
the participants? There is no way how to configure participants to the
conference.



I have seen this with my setup, I am using the client mode for emails, when
using firefox. Strange enough IE works. Most of our users are on IE so I
have not researched the why.

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Re: [asterisk-users] [Announce] Web-MeetMe V3.0.1 released

2007-04-18 Thread Ondrej Valousek
Hello Dan,

 The links to download a recording are already on the past 
 conference page IF the conference was recorded.
   
Aha, I see, intelligent. I will give it a try.
 OK, I get it now.  This is a side effect of offering too much
 flexibility.  I use and prefer the client-side mailer, and my
 users simply get an new message draft in their email client that
 they can add the participants to.  If you use the server-side mailer,
 then there is currently no way to add participants to the notice
 other than to email the details to yourself and forward them.
 I'd happily integrate an AD address book function, but it is
 Not a feature I or my users would use, so I cannot dedicate too
 much time to writing it myself.

   
Ok, I understand that now as well - you click that button and
thunderbird should popup with the mail composer open, right? Does not
happen to me - most likely problem w/ my firefox settings.
Now it all make a sense, sorry for being too pessimistic!
One thing that does not work for sure - I had some problems to terminate
the running conference from within the web page - I just clicked the
button and nothing happened.
Anyway - thanks a lot for the explanation - I will give it a try!

Ondrej


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RE: [asterisk-users] [Announce] Web-MeetMe V3.0.1 released

2007-04-18 Thread Dan Austin
Ondrej wrote:
 Ok, I understand that now as well - you click that button 
 and thunderbird should popup with the mail composer open, 
 right? 
Yes.

 Does not happen to me - most likely problem w/ my firefox
 settings.
Browser security settings most likely

 Now it all make a sense, sorry for being too pessimistic!
No worries.

 One thing that does not work for sure - I had some problems to
 terminate the running conference from within the web page - I 
 just clicked the button and nothing happened.
This is likely a manager.conf security issue, but it could be
a problem in the php code.  I just tested branches/3.0 and
trunk against 1.4.1 and it worked as expected.
If you set core verbose to 10 and click on 'End Now' the console
should display a message like this:
app_meetme.c:941 meetme_cmd: Cmdline: 41251|k|1

At this point this would be a topic better suited for the support
forums on SF.

 Anyway - thanks a lot for the explanation - I will give it a try!

I just committed a simple set of mouse-over text popups to provide
details about the options/settings in 'Add Conference' that
might not be obvious to everyone.  Since I know what the fields
are for, I may have over/under thought which ones need more
explanation, and the text I used to explain the fields may be
poor.  If you'd care to check svn branches/3.0, I'd love to know
what needs more work.
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RE: [asterisk-users] [Announce] Web-MeetMe V3.0.1 released

2007-04-17 Thread Dan Austin
Ondrej wrote:
 Ok I had a chance to test web-meetme 3.0.1 and I have few 
 comments here - 
 the Makefile for CBmysql lacks procedure that verifies existence of
 /var/lib/asterisk/sounds/conf-recordings directory where the
conference
 records should reside. 
You are right that this should be documented at least, and part of the
make install process ideally.

 I had to go through .php files to find out where they are supposed to 
 be and create the directory manually. Strange enough, the recording 
 still does not work and the main web interface lack any support for 
 the record files (I would expect some link in the past conference
list).
There will be a link if the conference is recorded.  I received a report
of the recording option not working just this weekend and I started
Looking for the cause today.  I was out of town for a week, otherwise
I would have gotten a chance to respond earlier.

What version of Asterisk are you using?  I've had recording working with
SVN before 1.4, the 1.4 betas and currently 1.4.1.

 - Active Directory integration works fine, but we should be able to
 gather email addreess for the participant from AD, too (avoid using
the
 sql users table if web-meetme was configured to use AD). Actually this
 is still a big mystery to me - how do I add participants to the
 conference using the web-interface? It must be done via the web
 interface as otherwise we have no information about the participant
 except of his channel number.
I've never user the sql option for the user/participant.  It was 
contributed by another user of the suite.  Depending on the technology
the caller used to call into the conference you should have their 
Caller-id number and possibly their Caller-id name.  What additional
Information would you like to see?

 It is very promising project but it needs
 - a better documentation
Contributions welcome.  There is a new How-To up on SF that covers
the installation on a step by step basis.  I've tried to comment
the configuration files to make it clear how each setting works.
Some features have been contributed to the project, and I am sorry
to say that beyond making sure they integrate cleanly, I have not
taken enough time to document their setup and use.  I guess I should
ask for supporting documentation before merging the changes/features.

 - fix the conference recording backend
I hope to have this resolved this week.  

 - clear the confusion with users/email addresses/mail notifications.
More details about what you would like the system to do please...

 If all that works, it would be just perfect...
 Thanks,

 Ondrej

Thank you for the feedback.  I am surprised almost daily how many
people have found it useful.  I did not really expect it to be as
popular as it has become, and I am more than happy to try and 
address any problems.

Thanks,
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RE: [asterisk-users] [Announce] Web-MeetMe V3.0.1 released

2007-04-17 Thread Dan Austin
Ondrej wrote:
 Ok I had a chance to test web-meetme 3.0.1 and I have few 
 comments here - 
 the Makefile for CBmysql lacks procedure that verifies existence
 of /var/lib/asterisk/sounds/conf-recordings directory where the
 conference records should reside. 
You are right that this should be documented at least, and part of
The make install process ideally.

 I had to go through .php files to find out where they are 
 supposed to be and create the directory manually. Strange 
 enough, the recording still does not work and the main web 
 interface lack any support for the record files (I would 
 expect some link in the past conference list).
There will be a link if the conference is recorded.  I received 
a report of the recording option not working just this weekend 
and I started Looking for the cause today.  I was out of town for 
a week, otherwise I would have gotten a chance to respond earlier.

What version of Asterisk are you using?  I've had recording 
working with SVN before 1.4, the 1.4 betas and currently 1.4.1.
*** Update ***
Recordings are tied to a moderator joining the conference at this
time.  I may need to change that based on feedback/requests to
do so.
*** Update ***

 - Active Directory integration works fine, but we should be 
 able to gather email addreess for the participant from AD, too
 (avoid using the sql users table if web-meetme was configured 
 to use AD). Actually this is still a big mystery to me - how do 
 I add participants to the conference using the web-interface? It
 must be done via the web interface as otherwise we have no 
 information about the participant except of his channel number.
I've never user the sql option for the user/participant.  It was 
contributed by another user of the suite.  Depending on the 
technology the caller used to call into the conference you should
have their Caller-id number and possibly their Caller-id name.  
What additional Information would you like to see?

 It is very promising project but it needs
 - a better documentation
Contributions welcome.  There is a new How-To up on SF that covers
the installation on a step by step basis.  I've tried to comment
the configuration files to make it clear how each setting works.
Some features have been contributed to the project, and I am sorry
to say that beyond making sure they integrate cleanly, I have not
taken enough time to document their setup and use.  I guess I should
ask for supporting documentation before merging the changes/features.

 - fix the conference recording backend
I hope to have this resolved this week.  
*** See update above ***

 - clear the confusion with users/email addresses/mail 
 notifications.
More details about what you would like the system to do please...

 If all that works, it would be just perfect...
 Thanks,

 Ondrej

Thank you for the feedback.  I am surprised almost daily how many
people have found it useful.  I did not really expect it to be as
popular as it has become, and I am more than happy to try and 
address any problems.

Thanks,
Dan
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Re: [asterisk-users] [Announce] Web-MeetMe V3.0.1 released

2007-04-13 Thread Ondrej Valousek
Ok I had a chance to test web-meetme 3.0.1 and I have few comments here
- the Makefile for CBmysql lacks procedure that verifies existence of
/var/lib/asterisk/sounds/conf-recordings directory where the conference
records should reside. I had to go through .php files to find out where
they are supposed to be and create the directory manually. Strange
enough, the recording still does not work and the main web interface
lack any support for the record files (I would expect some link in the
past conference list).
- Active Directory integration works fine, but we should be able to
gather email addreess for the participant from AD, too (avoid using the
sql users table if web-meetme was configured to use AD). Actually this
is still a big mystery to me - how do I add participants to the
conference using the web-interface? It must be done via the web
interface as otherwise we have no information about the participant
except of his channel number.

It is very promising project but it needs
- a better documentation
- fix the conference recording backend
- clear the confusion with users/email addresses/mail notifications.

If all that works, it would be just perfect...
Thanks,

Ondrej

Dan Austin wrote:
 Minor bug-fix release, no new functionality.

 Bugs fixed:
   *  app_cbmysql would fail to load
   *  Incorrect handling of recurring conferences that
   spanned a DST transition

 Minor cleanup:
   *  A couple image files were duplicated with 
   both upper and lowercase names.  The 
   uppercase variants were deleted and the
   HTML code cleaned up to use just the
   remaining files.

 The new release can be found at:  
   http://sourceforge.net/projects/web-meetme/

 We do have a volunteer developer who will be maintaining the
 2.X.X chain for Asterisk 1.2.X compatibility, so bug fixes and
 features that are not Asterisk version dependant will still be
 made available for older installations.

 The 2.X.X chain does not have the problem with app_cbmysql,
 but may suffer from the DST transition bug.

 Thanks,
 The Web-MeetMe development team...
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