Re: [asterisk-users] The downside of Asterisk and least cost routing...
Alex Balashov wrote: On Wed, 16 May 2007, Stephen Bosch said something to this effect: The fax-to-e-mail services charge as much as the telco does for a business line, sometimes more (at least, the ones I can deal with in this area). Better to set-up hylafax, IMHO. Not necessarily, except perhaps in cases of very high volumes. Actually, I think hylafax+iaxmodem are particularly useful for small volumes - the kind of situation where you do need a fax, but you might only receive or transmit something once a week at most. Setting up hylafax+iaxmodem takes about an hour. I haven't found any drawbacks yet. /Per Jessen, Zürich -- ENIDAN Technologies GmbH - managed email security. Starting at SFr1/month/user - http://www.spamchek.ch/ ___ --Bandwidth and Colocation provided by Easynews.com -- asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [asterisk-users] The downside of Asterisk and least cost routing...
Chris Mason (Lists) wrote: The only thing I'd probably lose is the ability to do faxes! So I am going to investigate that further first! Havn't doen that in years - an online fax service sends me my faxes by email and I sent out faxes through them, not that I ever do that. The fax-to-e-mail services charge as much as the telco does for a business line, sometimes more (at least, the ones I can deal with in this area). Better to set-up hylafax, IMHO. -Stephen- ___ --Bandwidth and Colocation provided by Easynews.com -- asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
RE: [asterisk-users] The downside of Asterisk and least cost routing...
On Tue, 2007-05-15 at 22:29 +0200, Francesco Peeters (Asterisk) wrote: In NL you actually can ditch the telephony and keep the ADSL... My ISP even gives emergency access if you transfer your main number to their SIP service. Here in France you can also move to ADSL only, what I found really interesting was that you can even do that when your ISP is Orange a division of France Telecom the company that will loose the telephony business. It's not too well advertised though. -- Dave Cotton [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ --Bandwidth and Colocation provided by Easynews.com -- asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [asterisk-users] The downside of Asterisk and least cost routing...
On Wed, 16 May 2007, Stephen Bosch wrote: Chris Mason (Lists) wrote: The only thing I'd probably lose is the ability to do faxes! So I am going to investigate that further first! Havn't doen that in years - an online fax service sends me my faxes by email and I sent out faxes through them, not that I ever do that. The fax-to-e-mail services charge as much as the telco does for a business line, sometimes more (at least, the ones I can deal with in this area). Better to set-up hylafax, IMHO. !!! They can be had for free (or sometimes a one-off setup fee, usually less than a tenner) in the UK. The numbers assigned, while not premium numbers are charged to the caller at local or national rates, and there is a tiny kick-back to the provider from the fees which covers running costs, depending on the number assigned (ie. 0845 or 0870 - but there's a big resistance to 0870 numbers in the UK - see www.saynoto0870.co.uk) You can pay more for fancy numbers - eg. ones that map to names on the dial-pad. Gordon ___ --Bandwidth and Colocation provided by Easynews.com -- asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [asterisk-users] The downside of Asterisk and least cost routing...
On Wed, 16 May 2007, Stephen Bosch said something to this effect: The fax-to-e-mail services charge as much as the telco does for a business line, sometimes more (at least, the ones I can deal with in this area). Better to set-up hylafax, IMHO. Not necessarily, except perhaps in cases of very high volumes. http://www.ureach.com/home3/ufax_overview.htm http://www.efax.com/en/efax/twa/productOverview -- Alex -- Alex Balashov [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ --Bandwidth and Colocation provided by Easynews.com -- asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [asterisk-users] The downside of Asterisk and least cost routing...
Stephen Bosch wrote: The fax-to-e-mail services charge as much as the telco does for a business line, sometimes more (at least, the ones I can deal with in this area). Better to set-up hylafax, IMHO. http://www.maxemail.com/fax/fax-lite.html $24/annum. -- Chris Mason (264) 497-5670 Fax: (264) 497-8463 Int: (305) 704-7249 Fax: (815)301-9759 UK 44.207.183.0271 Cell: 264-235-5670 Yahoo IM: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- This message has been scanned for viruses and dangerous content by MailScanner, and is believed to be clean. ___ --Bandwidth and Colocation provided by Easynews.com -- asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [asterisk-users] The downside of Asterisk and least cost routing...
Chris Mason (Lists) wrote: Stephen Bosch wrote: The fax-to-e-mail services charge as much as the telco does for a business line, sometimes more (at least, the ones I can deal with in this area). Better to set-up hylafax, IMHO. http://www.maxemail.com/fax/fax-lite.html $24/annum. I suppose I should have added the qualifier that we need to be able to port our existing fax number over to the new service :) Would this still be possible? (All these services have numbers in remote area codes or have 800 numbers). Can anybody suggest one that will take a ported number (in Canada)? -Stephen- ___ --Bandwidth and Colocation provided by Easynews.com -- asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [asterisk-users] The downside of Asterisk and least cost routing...
On Wed, 16 May 2007, Stephen Bosch said something to this effect: Would this still be possible? (All these services have numbers in remote area codes or have 800 numbers). Can anybody suggest one that will take a ported number (in Canada)? That's just something you have to contact the provider and ask about. Some of them use North American carriers that will port your number, even if they don't provide ready DID inventory in your LATA. What is your objection to an 800 number? -- Alex -- Alex Balashov [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ --Bandwidth and Colocation provided by Easynews.com -- asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [asterisk-users] The downside of Asterisk and least cost routing...
Alex Balashov wrote: On Wed, 16 May 2007, Stephen Bosch said something to this effect: Would this still be possible? (All these services have numbers in remote area codes or have 800 numbers). Can anybody suggest one that will take a ported number (in Canada)? That's just something you have to contact the provider and ask about. Some of them use North American carriers that will port your number, even if they don't provide ready DID inventory in your LATA. What is your objection to an 800 number? The significant pre-investment in marketing materials that have our current number on it :) Not to mention an established customer base that knows our current number. (I also have little interest in paying for the privilege of receiving fax spam from all over the continent) -Stephen- ___ --Bandwidth and Colocation provided by Easynews.com -- asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [asterisk-users] The downside of Asterisk and least cost routing...
On Fri, May 11, 2007 08:21, Gordon Henderson wrote: On Thu, 10 May 2007, Francesco Peeters (Asterisk) wrote: If you think your ISP is reliable enough then go for it! I've had less ADSL issues last year than ISDN issues! ;-) (And that while ADSL is running over that very ISDN line!) There is a small (and growing!) number of small businesses (and not so small ones either!) who are moving towards using their broadband (typically ADSL in the UK) connection for Telephony - and even installing a 2nd ADSL line just for VoIP. It can work out a lot cheaper than going down the traditional ISDN2/ISDN30 route for a lot of people as a small business expands. I can see that would work out that way, yes! Undfortunately I'll have to pay reconnection fee before I can cancel! :-o I guess that's a country thing - good luck :) I found out that I can even transfer my current main number to my ISP's SIP service for EUR 5 a month... Aside from that they can give me 2 free incoming numbers in the 087 range, and I already have an incoming VoipBuster number in my own areacode... That would give me 4 incoming numbers... The only thing I'd probably lose is the ability to do faxes! So I am going to investigate that further first! -- F Peeters PIII 450 - 1 GB - * 1.2 - BRIstuff 0.3.0 Pre 1 - Florz patch 2 Sweex HFC-PCI modes=0 sync_slave=0 timer_card=0 AMD Duron 1GHz - 1GB - * 1.2.1 - vISDN 2 Sweex HFC-PCI cards ___ --Bandwidth and Colocation provided by Easynews.com -- asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
RE: [asterisk-users] The downside of Asterisk and least cost routing...
On Fri, May 11, 2007 10:31, Chris Bagnall wrote: There is a small (and growing!) number of small businesses (and not so small ones either!) who are moving towards using their broadband (typically ADSL in the UK) connection for Telephony - and even installing a 2nd ADSL line just for VoIP. Indeed, many of our clients are doing just that. I would, however, strongly recommend against ditching PSTN entirely (in the UK, it's virtually impossible anyway since ADSL requires a PSTN line over which to run) - those PSTN lines are still useful for things like emergency service calls, directory enquiries, etc. etc. In NL you actually can ditch the telephony and keep the ADSL... My ISP even gives emergency access if you transfer your main number to their SIP service. And there still is my cell-phone too! ;-) -- F Peeters PIII 450 - 1 GB - * 1.2 - BRIstuff 0.3.0 Pre 1 - Florz patch 2 Sweex HFC-PCI modes=0 sync_slave=0 timer_card=0 AMD Duron 1GHz - 1GB - * 1.2.1 - vISDN 2 Sweex HFC-PCI cards ___ --Bandwidth and Colocation provided by Easynews.com -- asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [asterisk-users] The downside of Asterisk and least cost routing...
The only thing I'd probably lose is the ability to do faxes! So I am going to investigate that further first! Havn't doen that in years - an online fax service sends me my faxes by email and I sent out faxes through them, not that I ever do that. -- Chris Mason (264) 497-5670 Fax: (264) 497-8463 Int: (305) 704-7249 Fax: (815)301-9759 UK 44.207.183.0271 Cell: 264-235-5670 Yahoo IM: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- This message has been scanned for viruses and dangerous content by MailScanner, and is believed to be clean. ___ --Bandwidth and Colocation provided by Easynews.com -- asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [asterisk-users] The downside of Asterisk and least cost routing...
On Thu, 10 May 2007, Francesco Peeters (Asterisk) wrote: On Thu, May 10, 2007 23:44, Gordon Henderson wrote: On Thu, 10 May 2007, Francesco Peeters (Asterisk) wrote: It gives me pause though... Maybe it's time to get rid of my fixed line... ;-) No ;-) needed - I have friends on cable internet with no separate copper phone line now. I'd consider it myself if I weren't tied to having ADSL over my phone line, and as yet there isn't a way to separate them (in the UK) In NL there is... ;-) Especially interesting as I have ISDN, which is almost twice as expensive... So I am really going to look in to it... I'd save about EUR 20,00 per month that way! If you think your ISP is reliable enough then go for it! There is a small (and growing!) number of small businesses (and not so small ones either!) who are moving towards using their broadband (typically ADSL in the UK) connection for Telephony - and even installing a 2nd ADSL line just for VoIP. It can work out a lot cheaper than going down the traditional ISDN2/ISDN30 route for a lot of people as a small business expands. Undfortunately I'll have to pay reconnection fee before I can cancel! :-o I guess that's a country thing - good luck :) Gordon ___ --Bandwidth and Colocation provided by Easynews.com -- asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
RE: [asterisk-users] The downside of Asterisk and least cost routing...
There is a small (and growing!) number of small businesses (and not so small ones either!) who are moving towards using their broadband (typically ADSL in the UK) connection for Telephony - and even installing a 2nd ADSL line just for VoIP. Indeed, many of our clients are doing just that. I would, however, strongly recommend against ditching PSTN entirely (in the UK, it's virtually impossible anyway since ADSL requires a PSTN line over which to run) - those PSTN lines are still useful for things like emergency service calls, directory enquiries, etc. etc. Regards, Chris -- C.M. Bagnall, Director, Minotaur I.T. Limited For full contact details visit http://www.minotaur.it/chris.html This email is made from 100% recycled electrons ___ --Bandwidth and Colocation provided by Easynews.com -- asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [asterisk-users] The downside of Asterisk and least cost routing...
On Thu, 10 May 2007, Francesco Peeters (Asterisk) wrote: It gives me pause though... Maybe it's time to get rid of my fixed line... ;-) No ;-) needed - I have friends on cable internet with no separate copper phone line now. I'd consider it myself if I weren't tied to having ADSL over my phone line, and as yet there isn't a way to separate them (in the UK) Gordon ___ --Bandwidth and Colocation provided by Easynews.com -- asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [asterisk-users] The downside of Asterisk and least cost routing...
On Thu, May 10, 2007 23:44, Gordon Henderson wrote: On Thu, 10 May 2007, Francesco Peeters (Asterisk) wrote: It gives me pause though... Maybe it's time to get rid of my fixed line... ;-) No ;-) needed - I have friends on cable internet with no separate copper phone line now. I'd consider it myself if I weren't tied to having ADSL over my phone line, and as yet there isn't a way to separate them (in the UK) In NL there is... ;-) Especially interesting as I have ISDN, which is almost twice as expensive... So I am really going to look in to it... I'd save about EUR 20,00 per month that way! Undfortunately I'll have to pay reconnection fee before I can cancel! :-o -- F Peeters PIII 450 - 1 GB - * 1.2 - BRIstuff 0.3.0 Pre 1 - Florz patch 2 Sweex HFC-PCI modes=0 sync_slave=0 timer_card=0 AMD Duron 1GHz - 1GB - * 1.2.1 - vISDN 2 Sweex HFC-PCI cards ___ --Bandwidth and Colocation provided by Easynews.com -- asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
