Re: [asterisk-users] Paging for Praying
Thanks for the help and it seems I deleted some of my emails by mistake ! I am sorry if I repeated my question. As I see that the call file is used to generate calls, can I use this technique to page the Phones? It is one wave file only that need to be Paged for all the Phones connected on the Asterisk PBX. When I say Paging, I mean that they are going to hear the sound from the speaker (without pickup the handset). By using AMI, then I can build PHP script that will use the AMI to do the Page? Thanks and Regards Bilal -- A call file is a text file that you create. The format is very specific. On Tue, 1 Jan 2013, bilal ghayyad wrote: * How can I know this format? Because I need to know what should I place in this file so it will execute Paging for this group of Phones? This may help: http://www.voip-info.org/wiki/view/Asterisk+auto-dial+out How many customers will be receiving these reminders? * It is required that all the employers at the company to hear this on their IP Phones. In my experience, you can't just dump xxx call files into the outgoing directory. If you expect more than a dozen or so, you'll have to move them in blocks as they are processed. Another good reason to use AMI. You can 'schedule' a call file to be processed in the future by setting the file's 'mtime.' * Can you explain for me please? Create a file named fajr containing: application: playback channel: sip/bilal data: fajr-in-10-minutes Copy the file to a directory we assume is on the same file system as /var/spool/asterisk/outgoing/: cp\ fajr\ /var/spool/asterisk/tmp/ Set the file's 'mtime' touch\ --date='now + 2 minutes'\ --time=mtime\ /var/spool/asterisk/tmp/fajr Move it to the outgoing directory: mv\ /var/spool/asterisk/tmp/fajr\ /var/spool/asterisk/outgoing/ Your phone should ring in about 2 minutes. You may want to look into setting 'auto-answer' or some sort of 'overhead paging' with a very discreet sound file like a short, single beep. Please consider AMI if you are looking for a robust service. -- Thanks in advance, - Steve Edwards sedwa...@sedwards.com Voice: +1-760-468-3867 PST Newline -- _ -- Bandwidth and Colocation Provided by http://www.api-digital.com -- New to Asterisk? Join us for a live introductory webinar every Thurs: http://www.asterisk.org/hello asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [asterisk-users] Paging for Praying
Whether you use .call file or AMI, you should still do the call/page using a context and that context run the PHP script. -Original Message- From: asterisk-users-boun...@lists.digium.com [mailto:asterisk-users-boun...@lists.digium.com] On Behalf Of bilal ghayyad Sent: Monday, January 07, 2013 4:30 PM To: asterisk-users@lists.digium.com Subject: Re: [asterisk-users] Paging for Praying Thanks for the help and it seems I deleted some of my emails by mistake ! I am sorry if I repeated my question. As I see that the call file is used to generate calls, can I use this technique to page the Phones? It is one wave file only that need to be Paged for all the Phones connected on the Asterisk PBX. When I say Paging, I mean that they are going to hear the sound from the speaker (without pickup the handset). By using AMI, then I can build PHP script that will use the AMI to do the Page? Thanks and Regards Bilal -- A call file is a text file that you create. The format is very specific. On Tue, 1 Jan 2013, bilal ghayyad wrote: * How can I know this format? Because I need to know what should I place in this file so it will execute Paging for this group of Phones? This may help: http://www.voip-info.org/wiki/view/Asterisk+auto-dial+out How many customers will be receiving these reminders? * It is required that all the employers at the company to hear this on their IP Phones. In my experience, you can't just dump xxx call files into the outgoing directory. If you expect more than a dozen or so, you'll have to move them in blocks as they are processed. Another good reason to use AMI. You can 'schedule' a call file to be processed in the future by setting the file's 'mtime.' * Can you explain for me please? Create a file named fajr containing: application: playback channel: sip/bilal data: fajr-in-10-minutes Copy the file to a directory we assume is on the same file system as /var/spool/asterisk/outgoing/: cp\ fajr\ /var/spool/asterisk/tmp/ Set the file's 'mtime' touch\ --date='now + 2 minutes'\ --time=mtime\ /var/spool/asterisk/tmp/fajr Move it to the outgoing directory: mv\ /var/spool/asterisk/tmp/fajr\ /var/spool/asterisk/outgoing/ Your phone should ring in about 2 minutes. You may want to look into setting 'auto-answer' or some sort of 'overhead paging' with a very discreet sound file like a short, single beep. Please consider AMI if you are looking for a robust service. -- Thanks in advance, -- --- Steve Edwards sedwa...@sedwards.com Voice: +1-760-468-3867 PST Newline -- _ -- Bandwidth and Colocation Provided by http://www.api-digital.com -- New to Asterisk? Join us for a live introductory webinar every Thurs: http://www.asterisk.org/hello asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users -- _ -- Bandwidth and Colocation Provided by http://www.api-digital.com -- New to Asterisk? Join us for a live introductory webinar every Thurs: http://www.asterisk.org/hello asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [asterisk-users] Paging for Praying
On Mon, 7 Jan 2013, bilal ghayyad wrote:
Thanks for the help and it seems I deleted some of my emails by mistake!
I am sorry if I repeated my question.
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On Wed, 2 Jan 2013, bilal ghayyad wrote:
As I see that the call file is used to generate calls, can I use this
technique to page the Phones?
Yes. The call file would look something like:
application:page
data: sip/bilalsip/steve
channel:local/fajr@prayer-reminder
(This is in alphabetical order. The 'leg' to the channel is executed
first.)
and a snippet of extensions.conf would look something like:
[prayer-reminder]
exten = fajr,1, verbose(1,[${EXTEN}@${CONTEXT}])
exten = fajr,n, playback(time-for-fajr)
exten = fajr,n, hangup()
When I say Paging, I mean that they are going to hear the sound from the
speaker (without pickup the handset).
Then you will have to learn how to set the 'auto-answer' SIP header for
each of your phone types.
The page at:
http://www.voip-info.org/wiki/view/Asterisk+cmd+Page
should help with the specifics of setting auto-answer.
This also means the 'data' line in the call file will change to something
like:
data: local/bilal@pagelocal/steve@page
By using AMI, then I can build PHP script that will use the AMI to do
the Page?
I'm sorry. I think we had a 'failure to communicate' in your use of the
word 'page' in your previous emails. I thought you meant 'playback.'
Since you are only placing a single call, the call file approach should be
fine. But, to answer your question, you should be able to use AMI as well.
--
Thanks in advance,
-
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Newline Fax: +1-760-731-3000
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Re: [asterisk-users] Paging for Praying
How many people do you plan to page? because if numbers are high (or variable) you may have an easier life by using some sort of dialer if numbers are not very high and two lines are enough, our WombatDialer is free to use. l. 2012/12/29 bilal ghayyad bilmar...@yahoo.com 2) Praying time need to be obtained from text (or database). So, it is not always the same time. What actually is needed to be obtained from the text file or the database is the time of the pray for each date (for example, if today is 28 of December so the query will be for this date and then it is required to check if the time is same as the current time to page the wave file on the Phones). -- Loway - home of QueueMetrics - http://queuemetrics.com Test-drive WombatDialer beta @ http://wombatdialer.com -- _ -- Bandwidth and Colocation Provided by http://www.api-digital.com -- New to Asterisk? Join us for a live introductory webinar every Thurs: http://www.asterisk.org/hello asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [asterisk-users] Paging for Praying
Doesn’t the OP wish to page all phones? So it’s not an issue of dumping dozens of call files all at once. Does paging work? http://www.voip-info.org/wiki/view/Asterisk+cmd+Page http://www.voip-info.org/wiki/view/Asterisk+Paging+and+Intercom Overhead paging might also be something to consider, requiring just one call to page “everyone.” --Don From: asterisk-users-boun...@lists.digium.com [mailto:asterisk-users-boun...@lists.digium.com] On Behalf Of Lenz Emilitri Sent: Wednesday, January 02, 2013 5:15 AM To: Asterisk Users Mailing List - Non-Commercial Discussion Subject: Re: [asterisk-users] Paging for Praying How many people do you plan to page? because if numbers are high (or variable) you may have an easier life by using some sort of dialer if numbers are not very high and two lines are enough, our WombatDialer is free to use. l. 2012/12/29 bilal ghayyad bilmar...@yahoo.com 2) Praying time need to be obtained from text (or database). So, it is not always the same time. What actually is needed to be obtained from the text file or the database is the time of the pray for each date (for example, if today is 28 of December so the query will be for this date and then it is required to check if the time is same as the current time to page the wave file on the Phones). -- Loway - home of QueueMetrics - http://queuemetrics.com Test-drive WombatDialer beta @ http://wombatdialer.com -- _ -- Bandwidth and Colocation Provided by http://www.api-digital.com -- New to Asterisk? Join us for a live introductory webinar every Thurs: http://www.asterisk.org/hello asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [asterisk-users] Paging for Praying
Thanks for the help. As I see that the call file is used to generate calls, can I use this technique to page the Phones? It is one wave file only that need to be Paged for all the Phones connected on the Asterisk PBX. When I say Paging, I mean that they are going to hear the sound from the speaker (without pickup the handset). By using AMI, then I can build PHP script that will use the AMI to do the Page? Thanks and Regards Bilal A call file is a text file that you create. The format is very specific. On Tue, 1 Jan 2013, bilal ghayyad wrote: * How can I know this format? Because I need to know what should I place in this file so it will execute Paging for this group of Phones? This may help: http://www.voip-info.org/wiki/view/Asterisk+auto-dial+out How many customers will be receiving these reminders? * It is required that all the employers at the company to hear this on their IP Phones. In my experience, you can't just dump xxx call files into the outgoing directory. If you expect more than a dozen or so, you'll have to move them in blocks as they are processed. Another good reason to use AMI. You can 'schedule' a call file to be processed in the future by setting the file's 'mtime.' * Can you explain for me please? Create a file named fajr containing: application: playback channel: sip/bilal data: fajr-in-10-minutes Copy the file to a directory we assume is on the same file system as /var/spool/asterisk/outgoing/: cp\ fajr\ /var/spool/asterisk/tmp/ Set the file's 'mtime' touch\ --date='now + 2 minutes'\ --time=mtime\ /var/spool/asterisk/tmp/fajr Move it to the outgoing directory: mv\ /var/spool/asterisk/tmp/fajr\ /var/spool/asterisk/outgoing/ Your phone should ring in about 2 minutes. You may want to look into setting 'auto-answer' or some sort of 'overhead paging' with a very discreet sound file like a short, single beep. Please consider AMI if you are looking for a robust service. -- _ -- Bandwidth and Colocation Provided by http://www.api-digital.com -- New to Asterisk? Join us for a live introductory webinar every Thurs: http://www.asterisk.org/hello asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [asterisk-users] Paging for Praying
Please trim cruft irrelevant to the current questions.
On Wed, 2 Jan 2013, bilal ghayyad wrote:
As I see that the call file is used to generate calls, can I use this
technique to page the Phones?
Yes. The call file would look something like:
application:page
data: sip/bilalsip/steve
channel:local/fajr@prayer-reminder
and a snippet of extensions.conf would look something like:
[prayer-reminder]
exten = fajr,1, verbose(1,[${EXTEN}@${CONTEXT}])
exten = fajr,n, playback(time-for-fajr)
exten = fajr,n, hangup()
When I say Paging, I mean that they are going to hear the sound from the
speaker (without pickup the handset).
Then you will have to learn how to set the 'auto-answer' SIP header for
each of your phone types.
The page at:
http://www.voip-info.org/wiki/view/Asterisk+cmd+Page
should help with the specifics of setting auto-answer.
This also means the 'data' line in the call file will change to something
like:
data: local/bilal@pagelocal/steve@page
By using AMI, then I can build PHP script that will use the AMI to do
the Page?
I'm sorry. I thought we had a 'failure to communicate' in your use of the
word page in your previous emails. I though you meant playback.
Since you are only placing a single call, the call file approach should be
fine. But, to answer your question, you should be able to use AMI as well.
--
Thanks in advance,
-
Steve Edwards sedwa...@sedwards.com Voice: +1-760-468-3867 PST
Newline Fax: +1-760-731-3000
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Re: [asterisk-users] Paging for Praying
How many customers will be receiving these reminders? * It is required that all the employers at the company to hear this on their IP Phones. What religion is this targeted to? * Islam. A call file is a text file that you create. The format is very specific. * How can I know this format? Because I need to know what should I place in this file so it will execute Paging for this group of Phones? You can 'schedule' a call file to be processed in the future by setting the file's 'mtime.' * Can you explain for me please? I am fully thanks. Regards Bilal -- I have one more question: What was u meaning by call file and why it is required to place them in the 'astspooldir.'? There are 2 methods of originating a call external to Asterisk: call files and the Asterisk Manager Interface (AMI). A call file is a text file that you create. The format is very specific. It could contain (in the context of your needs) the phone number to dial and the path of the file to play. A call file is kind of like a 'message in a bottle.' You cast it into the sea and hope for the best. When this file is mv'ed into the directory specified in the Asterisk astspooldir variable, Asterisk will read it and try to do what you want. You can 'schedule' a call file to be processed in the future by setting the file's 'mtime.' The Asterisk Manager Interface (AMI) is a TCP connection between your program and Asterisk. You can issue commands (like originate) and receive responses. AMI is more robust because you can make decisions based on the response. If robustness is not of primary importance, a script scheduled by cron to run after midnight could create the 5 call files for that day, setting the 'mtime' of each file before mv'ing the file to the directory specified by astspooldir -- usually /var/spool/asterisk/outgoing/ How many customers will be receiving these reminders? What religion is this targeted to? -- _ -- Bandwidth and Colocation Provided by http://www.api-digital.com -- New to Asterisk? Join us for a live introductory webinar every Thurs: http://www.asterisk.org/hello asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [asterisk-users] Paging for Praying
On Fri, 28 Dec 2012, Steve Edwards wrote: A call file is a text file that you create. The format is very specific. On Tue, 1 Jan 2013, bilal ghayyad wrote: * How can I know this format? Because I need to know what should I place in this file so it will execute Paging for this group of Phones? This may help: http://www.voip-info.org/wiki/view/Asterisk+auto-dial+out How many customers will be receiving these reminders? * It is required that all the employers at the company to hear this on their IP Phones. In my experience, you can't just dump xxx call files into the outgoing directory. If you expect more than a dozen or so, you'll have to move them in blocks as they are processed. Another good reason to use AMI. You can 'schedule' a call file to be processed in the future by setting the file's 'mtime.' * Can you explain for me please? Create a file named fajr containing: application:playback channel:sip/bilal data: fajr-in-10-minutes Copy the file to a directory we assume is on the same file system as /var/spool/asterisk/outgoing/: cp\ fajr\ /var/spool/asterisk/tmp/ Set the file's 'mtime' touch\ --date='now + 2 minutes'\ --time=mtime\ /var/spool/asterisk/tmp/fajr Move it to the outgoing directory: mv\ /var/spool/asterisk/tmp/fajr\ /var/spool/asterisk/outgoing/ Your phone should ring in about 2 minutes. You may want to look into setting 'auto-answer' or some sort of 'overhead paging' with a very discreet sound file like a short, single beep. Please consider AMI if you are looking for a robust service. -- Thanks in advance, - Steve Edwards sedwa...@sedwards.com Voice: +1-760-468-3867 PST Newline Fax: +1-760-731-3000 -- _ -- Bandwidth and Colocation Provided by http://www.api-digital.com -- New to Asterisk? Join us for a live introductory webinar every Thurs: http://www.asterisk.org/hello asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [asterisk-users] Paging for Praying
On Sat, Dec 29, 2012 at 12:41:30AM -0500, Steve Totaro wrote: [snip] Wow. Didn't know there was a rule... I never got the whole argument. If the flow is top posting, I top post. If I am certain I can answer a simple question with a simple answer, sometimes I will just top post. The first rule of asterisk mailing lists ... /coat Steve -- NetTek Ltd UK mob +44 7775 755503 UK +44 20 3432 3735 / US +1 (206) 309-2461 / Fax +44 20 7483 2455 social id stevekennedyuk Euro Tech News Blog http://eurotechnews.blogspot.com MSN st...@gbnet.net -- _ -- Bandwidth and Colocation Provided by http://www.api-digital.com -- New to Asterisk? Join us for a live introductory webinar every Thurs: http://www.asterisk.org/hello asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [asterisk-users] Paging for Praying
Dear Steve; Thanks a lot for your help. Specifically what I need is the following: 1) One wave file to be paged at the Phones. In the 5 times, the same file will be used. 2) Praying time need to be obtained from text (or database). So, it is not always the same time. What actually is needed to be obtained from the text file or the database is the time of the pray for each date (for example, if today is 28 of December so the query will be for this date and then it is required to check if the time is same as the current time to page the wave file on the Phones). I have one more question: What was u meaning by call file and why it is required to place them in the 'astspooldir.'? Regards Bilal Please don't top-post. On Thu, Dec 27, 2012 at 1:29 PM, bilal ghayyad bilmar...@yahoo.com wrote: How can I have Paging on Asterisk to call for pray? The pray is 5 times in a day and there is a timing for pray (actually it can be existed in a text file or database for the next 2 or 5 years). [mailto:asterisk-users-boun...@lists.digium.com] On Behalf Of Bharat Lalcheta However, its easy to build a script in php or perl or any other language which check time from file or database and generate call file which execute paging in asterisk. Just put this script in cron. Thats it... From: Danny Nicholas da...@debsinc.com I would set up 5 shell files called pray1.sh, pray2.sh, etc and then set up 5 entries in /etc/crontab to run them at the specified time daily. The file pray1.sh should look something like this: #!/bin/sh cp /pray1/*.call /tmp mv /tmp/*.call /var/spool/asterisk/outgoing the entry in /etc/crontab would look like this 0 8 *** root /usr/bin/pray1.sh This would run pray1.sh at 8 am daily. On Thu, 27 Dec 2012, bilal ghayyad wrote: Thanks a lot for your kindly reply and help. Really I did not understand why you need to place them in the /var/spool/asterisk/outgoing? The appropriate solution needs a lot more detail to be useful. Is this just to remind you or is this the foundation of a new product for thousands of customers? Is there a message or verse associated with each of the 5 reminders or is 'time to pray' sufficient? Is there a penalty associated with missing a prayer like eternal damnation? (AMI is more robust than call files.) The answers would help guide you in deciding if a simple cron based shell script generating call files or a database driven AMI daemon is the best approach. In answer to your specific question, the call files need to be mv'ed into /v/s/a/o/ because: ) You need to use mv instead of cp because mv is an 'atomic' function* meaning it happens all at once so that Asterisk will not try to read an incomplete file. ) This is the default value of 'astspooldir.' You can specify a different location in asterisk.conf if needed. *) Assuming the source and destination are on the same filesystem. -- _ -- Bandwidth and Colocation Provided by http://www.api-digital.com -- New to Asterisk? Join us for a live introductory webinar every Thurs: http://www.asterisk.org/hello asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [asterisk-users] Paging for Praying
Please don't top-post. If you don't know what that means, please consult Google. On Fri, 28 Dec 2012, bilal ghayyad wrote: I have one more question: What was u meaning by call file and why it is required to place them in the 'astspooldir.'? There are 2 methods of originating a call external to Asterisk: call files and the Asterisk Manager Interface (AMI). A call file is a text file that you create. The format is very specific. It could contain (in the context of your needs) the phone number to dial and the path of the file to play. A call file is kind of like a 'message in a bottle.' You cast it into the sea and hope for the best. When this file is mv'ed into the directory specified in the Asterisk astspooldir variable, Asterisk will read it and try to do what you want. You can 'schedule' a call file to be processed in the future by setting the file's 'mtime.' The Asterisk Manager Interface (AMI) is a TCP connection between your program and Asterisk. You can issue commands (like originate) and receive responses. AMI is more robust because you can make decisions based on the response. If robustness is not of primary importance, a script scheduled by cron to run after midnight could create the 5 call files for that day, setting the 'mtime' of each file before mv'ing the file to the directory specified by astspooldir -- usually /var/spool/asterisk/outgoing/ How many customers will be receiving these reminders? What religion is this targeted to? -- Thanks in advance, - Steve Edwards sedwa...@sedwards.com Voice: +1-760-468-3867 PST Newline Fax: +1-760-731-3000 -- _ -- Bandwidth and Colocation Provided by http://www.api-digital.com -- New to Asterisk? Join us for a live introductory webinar every Thurs: http://www.asterisk.org/hello asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [asterisk-users] Paging for Praying
On 12/28/2012 08:13 PM, Steve Edwards wrote: Please stop saying don't top post, some of us prefer it that way. Please don't top-post. If you don't know what that means, please consult Google. On Fri, 28 Dec 2012, bilal ghayyad wrote: I have one more question: What was u meaning by call file and why it is required to place them in the 'astspooldir.'? There are 2 methods of originating a call external to Asterisk: call files and the Asterisk Manager Interface (AMI). A call file is a text file that you create. The format is very specific. It could contain (in the context of your needs) the phone number to dial and the path of the file to play. A call file is kind of like a 'message in a bottle.' You cast it into the sea and hope for the best. When this file is mv'ed into the directory specified in the Asterisk astspooldir variable, Asterisk will read it and try to do what you want. You can 'schedule' a call file to be processed in the future by setting the file's 'mtime.' The Asterisk Manager Interface (AMI) is a TCP connection between your program and Asterisk. You can issue commands (like originate) and receive responses. AMI is more robust because you can make decisions based on the response. If robustness is not of primary importance, a script scheduled by cron to run after midnight could create the 5 call files for that day, setting the 'mtime' of each file before mv'ing the file to the directory specified by astspooldir -- usually /var/spool/asterisk/outgoing/ How many customers will be receiving these reminders? What religion is this targeted to? -- _ -- Bandwidth and Colocation Provided by http://www.api-digital.com -- New to Asterisk? Join us for a live introductory webinar every Thurs: http://www.asterisk.org/hello asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [asterisk-users] Paging for Praying
On 12/28/2012 08:13 PM, Steve Edwards wrote: Please don't top-post. If you don't know what that means, please consult Google. On Fri, 28 Dec 2012, jon pounder wrote: Please stop saying don't top post, some of us prefer it that way. Besides being my preference, it is the documented rule of the mailing list: http://www.asterisk.org/community/discuss/ Note Mailing List Rules, #5. -- Thanks in advance, - Steve Edwards sedwa...@sedwards.com Voice: +1-760-468-3867 PST Newline Fax: +1-760-731-3000 -- _ -- Bandwidth and Colocation Provided by http://www.api-digital.com -- New to Asterisk? Join us for a live introductory webinar every Thurs: http://www.asterisk.org/hello asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [asterisk-users] Paging for Praying
On Fri, Dec 28, 2012 at 06:41:38PM -0800, Steve Edwards wrote: On 12/28/2012 08:13 PM, Steve Edwards wrote: Please don't top-post. If you don't know what that means, please consult Google. On Fri, 28 Dec 2012, jon pounder wrote: Please stop saying don't top post, some of us prefer it that way. Besides being my preference, it is the documented rule of the mailing list: http://www.asterisk.org/community/discuss/ Note Mailing List Rules, #5. For a walk down memory lane on top vs bottom posting on the Asterisk mailing lists: http://thread.gmane.org/gmane.comp.telephony.pbx.asterisk.user/254997 -- Shaun Ruffell Digium, Inc. | Linux Kernel Developer 445 Jan Davis Drive NW - Huntsville, AL 35806 - USA Check us out at: www.digium.com www.asterisk.org -- _ -- Bandwidth and Colocation Provided by http://www.api-digital.com -- New to Asterisk? Join us for a live introductory webinar every Thurs: http://www.asterisk.org/hello asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [asterisk-users] Paging for Praying
Shaun Ruffell wrote: On Fri, Dec 28, 2012 at 06:41:38PM -0800, Steve Edwards wrote: On 12/28/2012 08:13 PM, Steve Edwards wrote: Please don't top-post. If you don't know what that means, please consult Google. On Fri, 28 Dec 2012, jon pounder wrote: Please stop saying don't top post, some of us prefer it that way. Besides being my preference, it is the documented rule of the mailing list: http://www.asterisk.org/community/discuss/ Note Mailing List Rules, #5. For a walk down memory lane on top vs bottom posting on the Asterisk mailing lists: http://thread.gmane.org/gmane.comp.telephony.pbx.asterisk.user/254997 I would add that the rule # 5 was added long after the first 4, by someone in charge after one of the many times this subject has popped up. Many of the same complainers routinely do not remove the multi line footers, sometimes MANY of them, forcing those who really want to read a reply to wade through the mess. Seems some can't be bothered to delete them I would also add that rules are made to be broken! Peg Leg O'Brien -- Dog is my Co-pilot -- _ -- Bandwidth and Colocation Provided by http://www.api-digital.com -- New to Asterisk? Join us for a live introductory webinar every Thurs: http://www.asterisk.org/hello asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [asterisk-users] Paging for Praying
On Fri, Dec 28, 2012 at 11:35 PM, John Novack jnov...@stromberg-carlson.org wrote: Shaun Ruffell wrote: On Fri, Dec 28, 2012 at 06:41:38PM -0800, Steve Edwards wrote: On 12/28/2012 08:13 PM, Steve Edwards wrote: Please don't top-post. If you don't know what that means, please consult Google. On Fri, 28 Dec 2012, jon pounder wrote: Please stop saying don't top post, some of us prefer it that way. Besides being my preference, it is the documented rule of the mailing list: http://www.asterisk.org/community/discuss/ Note Mailing List Rules, #5. For a walk down memory lane on top vs bottom posting on the Asterisk mailing lists: http://thread.gmane.org/gmane.comp.telephony.pbx.asterisk.user/254997 I would add that the rule # 5 was added long after the first 4, by someone in charge after one of the many times this subject has popped up. Many of the same complainers routinely do not remove the multi line footers, sometimes MANY of them, forcing those who really want to read a reply to wade through the mess. Seems some can't be bothered to delete them I would also add that rules are made to be broken! Peg Leg O'Brien -- Dog is my Co-pilot Wow. Didn't know there was a rule... I never got the whole argument. If the flow is top posting, I top post. If I am certain I can answer a simple question with a simple answer, sometimes I will just top post. Totally off topic, apologies. I know I have weighed in once or twice but really never cared. If the flow was totally borked and I didn't care enough to follow the topic, it wasn't that important anyways. Even more off topic. Can someone smarter than me get the post totals for each year? I was #1 one year. I am not even talking about individual post counts though. It just seems the list has died for the most part. Thanks, Steve T -- _ -- Bandwidth and Colocation Provided by http://www.api-digital.com -- New to Asterisk? Join us for a live introductory webinar every Thurs: http://www.asterisk.org/hello asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [asterisk-users] Paging for Praying
I dont think this is existed. However, its easy to build a script in php or perl or any other language which check time from file or database and generate call file which execute paging in asterisk. Just put this script in cron. Thats it... Regards, Bharat Lalcheta On Thu, Dec 27, 2012 at 1:29 PM, bilal ghayyad bilmar...@yahoo.com wrote: Hello; How can I have Paging on Asterisk to call for pray? The pray is 5 times in a day and there is a timing for pray (actually it can be existed in a text file or database for the next 2 or 5 years). My question is compound from two parts: How can I have Automatic Page? The automatic page should happens by reading the time and check if the time is same as this time, then do the Page. How? Is it by cron? Someone told me that do a cron that call a script which will check the time, if the time came to do th Page, then do a Page. But really I do not know how this can be done and I do not know if this is already existed? Regards Bilal -- _ -- Bandwidth and Colocation Provided by http://www.api-digital.com -- New to Asterisk? Join us for a live introductory webinar every Thurs: http://www.asterisk.org/hello asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users -- Bharat Lalcheta -- _ -- Bandwidth and Colocation Provided by http://www.api-digital.com -- New to Asterisk? Join us for a live introductory webinar every Thurs: http://www.asterisk.org/hello asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [asterisk-users] Paging for Praying
I would set up 5 shell files called pray1.sh, pray2.sh, etc and then set up 5 entries in /etc/crontab to run them at the specified time daily. The file pray1.sh should look something like this: #!/bin/sh cp /pray1/*.call /tmp mv /tmp/*.call /var/spool/asterisk/outgoing the entry in /etc/crontab would look like this 0 8 *** root /usr/bin/pray1.sh This would run pray1.sh at 8 am daily. From: asterisk-users-boun...@lists.digium.com [mailto:asterisk-users-boun...@lists.digium.com] On Behalf Of Bharat Lalcheta Sent: Thursday, December 27, 2012 2:22 AM To: Asterisk Users Mailing List - Non-Commercial Discussion Subject: Re: [asterisk-users] Paging for Praying I dont think this is existed. However, its easy to build a script in php or perl or any other language which check time from file or database and generate call file which execute paging in asterisk. Just put this script in cron. Thats it... Regards, Bharat Lalcheta On Thu, Dec 27, 2012 at 1:29 PM, bilal ghayyad bilmar...@yahoo.com wrote: Hello; How can I have Paging on Asterisk to call for pray? The pray is 5 times in a day and there is a timing for pray (actually it can be existed in a text file or database for the next 2 or 5 years). My question is compound from two parts: How can I have Automatic Page? The automatic page should happens by reading the time and check if the time is same as this time, then do the Page. How? Is it by cron? Someone told me that do a cron that call a script which will check the time, if the time came to do th Page, then do a Page. But really I do not know how this can be done and I do not know if this is already existed? Regards Bilal -- _ -- Bandwidth and Colocation Provided by http://www.api-digital.com -- New to Asterisk? Join us for a live introductory webinar every Thurs: http://www.asterisk.org/hello asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users -- Bharat Lalcheta -- _ -- Bandwidth and Colocation Provided by http://www.api-digital.com -- New to Asterisk? Join us for a live introductory webinar every Thurs: http://www.asterisk.org/hello asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [asterisk-users] Paging for Praying
Thanks a lot for your kindly reply and help. Really I did not understand why you need to place them in the /var/spool/asterisk/outgoing? Regards Bilal --- I would set up 5 shell files called pray1.sh, pray2.sh, etc and then set up 5 entries in /etc/crontab to run them at the specified time daily. The file pray1.sh should look something like this: #!/bin/sh cp /pray1/*.call /tmp mv /tmp/*.call /var/spool/asterisk/outgoing the entry in /etc/crontab would look like this 0 8 *** root /usr/bin/pray1.sh This would run pray1.sh at 8 am daily. From: asterisk-users-boun...@lists.digium.com [mailto:asterisk-users-boun...@lists.digium.com] On Behalf Of Bharat Lalcheta Sent: Thursday, December 27, 2012 2:22 AM To: Asterisk Users Mailing List - Non-Commercial Discussion Subject: Re: [asterisk-users] Paging for Praying I dont think this is existed. However, its easy to build a script in php or perl or any other language which check time from file or database and generate call file which execute paging in asterisk. Just put this script in cron. Thats it... Regards, Bharat Lalcheta On Thu, Dec 27, 2012 at 1:29 PM, bilal ghayyad bilmar...@yahoo.com wrote: Hello; How can I have Paging on Asterisk to call for pray? The pray is 5 times in a day and there is a timing for pray (actually it can be existed in a text file or database for the next 2 or 5 years). My question is compound from two parts: How can I have Automatic Page? The automatic page should happens by reading the time and check if the time is same as this time, then do the Page. How? Is it by cron? Someone told me that do a cron that call a script which will check the time, if the time came to do th Page, then do a Page. But really I do not know how this can be done and I do not know if this is already existed? Regards Bilal -- _ -- Bandwidth and Colocation Provided by http://www.api-digital.com -- New to Asterisk? Join us for a live introductory webinar every Thurs: http://www.asterisk.org/hello asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [asterisk-users] Paging for Praying
Please don't top-post. On Thu, Dec 27, 2012 at 1:29 PM, bilal ghayyad bilmar...@yahoo.com wrote: How can I have Paging on Asterisk to call for pray? The pray is 5 times in a day and there is a timing for pray (actually it can be existed in a text file or database for the next 2 or 5 years). [mailto:asterisk-users-boun...@lists.digium.com] On Behalf Of Bharat Lalcheta However, its easy to build a script in php or perl or any other language which check time from file or database and generate call file which execute paging in asterisk. Just put this script in cron. Thats it... From: Danny Nicholas da...@debsinc.com I would set up 5 shell files called pray1.sh, pray2.sh, etc and then set up 5 entries in /etc/crontab to run them at the specified time daily. The file pray1.sh should look something like this: #!/bin/sh cp /pray1/*.call /tmp mv /tmp/*.call /var/spool/asterisk/outgoing the entry in /etc/crontab would look like this 0 8 *** root /usr/bin/pray1.sh This would run pray1.sh at 8 am daily. On Thu, 27 Dec 2012, bilal ghayyad wrote: Thanks a lot for your kindly reply and help. Really I did not understand why you need to place them in the /var/spool/asterisk/outgoing? The appropriate solution needs a lot more detail to be useful. Is this just to remind you or is this the foundation of a new product for thousands of customers? Is there a message or verse associated with each of the 5 reminders or is 'time to pray' sufficient? Is there a penalty associated with missing a prayer like eternal damnation? (AMI is more robust than call files.) The answers would help guide you in deciding if a simple cron based shell script generating call files or a database driven AMI daemon is the best approach. In answer to your specific question, the call files need to be mv'ed into /v/s/a/o/ because: ) You need to use mv instead of cp because mv is an 'atomic' function* meaning it happens all at once so that Asterisk will not try to read an incomplete file. ) This is the default value of 'astspooldir.' You can specify a different location in asterisk.conf if needed. *) Assuming the source and destination are on the same filesystem. -- Thanks in advance, - Steve Edwards sedwa...@sedwards.com Voice: +1-760-468-3867 PST Newline Fax: +1-760-731-3000 -- _ -- Bandwidth and Colocation Provided by http://www.api-digital.com -- New to Asterisk? Join us for a live introductory webinar every Thurs: http://www.asterisk.org/hello asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
[asterisk-users] Paging for Praying
Hello; How can I have Paging on Asterisk to call for pray? The pray is 5 times in a day and there is a timing for pray (actually it can be existed in a text file or database for the next 2 or 5 years). My question is compound from two parts: How can I have Automatic Page? The automatic page should happens by reading the time and check if the time is same as this time, then do the Page. How? Is it by cron? Someone told me that do a cron that call a script which will check the time, if the time came to do th Page, then do a Page. But really I do not know how this can be done and I do not know if this is already existed? Regards Bilal -- _ -- Bandwidth and Colocation Provided by http://www.api-digital.com -- New to Asterisk? Join us for a live introductory webinar every Thurs: http://www.asterisk.org/hello asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
