Re: [asterisk-users] RESET CDR

2009-09-10 Thread Ivan Stepaniuk
B.Masoud @ SH wrote:
 Yes that is the problem.
 So what do you do when the line doesn't support polarity??
 What is the best solution in this case?

What kind of gateway do you use to connect to the PSTN?

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Re: [asterisk-users] RESET CDR

2009-09-10 Thread B.Masoud @ SH
I use GranStream FXO..
Do you suggest a gateway?

Thanks.

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Subject: Re: [asterisk-users] RESET CDR

B.Masoud @ SH wrote:
 Yes that is the problem.
 So what do you do when the line doesn't support polarity??
 What is the best solution in this case?

What kind of gateway do you use to connect to the PSTN?

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Re: [asterisk-users] RESET CDR

2009-09-09 Thread B.Masoud @ SH
I don't want to bill the first 30 seconds, that's all, why is that so
strange??? My line does not support polarity reversal, so I don't want to
bill for ringing the line...
Do you suggest different way than this?

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[mailto:asterisk-users-boun...@lists.digium.com] On Behalf Of Matt Riddell
Sent: Wednesday, September 09, 2009 8:37 AM
To: Asterisk Users Mailing List - Non-Commercial Discussion
Subject: Re: [asterisk-users] RESET CDR

On 9/09/09 5:14 PM, B.Masoud @ SH wrote:
 A little more help is appreciated, I know about ResetCDR() , but I want
some
 code that resets the call data after 30 seconds!
 And where to put the code exactly.

What a strange request.  Why exactly are you wanting to do this?

If you're wanting all your calls to look like they are 30 seconds 
shorter can't you just use the time-30 seconds?

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Re: [asterisk-users] RESET CDR

2009-09-09 Thread David Backeberg
On Wed, Sep 9, 2009 at 10:12 AM, B.Masoud @ SHi...@saudihome.com wrote:
 I don't want to bill the first 30 seconds, that's all, why is that so
 strange??? My line does not support polarity reversal, so I don't want to
 bill for ringing the line...
 Do you suggest different way than this?

yes. Subtract 30 seconds from the billing when the call is completed.

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Re: [asterisk-users] RESET CDR

2009-09-09 Thread Jeff LaCoursiere

On Wed, 9 Sep 2009, David Backeberg wrote:

 On Wed, Sep 9, 2009 at 10:12 AM, B.Masoud @ SHi...@saudihome.com wrote:
 I don't want to bill the first 30 seconds, that's all, why is that so
 strange??? My line does not support polarity reversal, so I don't want to
 bill for ringing the line...
 Do you suggest different way than this?

 yes. Subtract 30 seconds from the billing when the call is completed.


Even easier - use the billsecs field of the CDR instead of the 
totalsecs.  billsecs doesn't start counting until the call is answered.

j

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Re: [asterisk-users] RESET CDR

2009-09-09 Thread B.Masoud @ SH
Can you provide me some code for that?
I am NOOB

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Subject: Re: [asterisk-users] RESET CDR

On Wed, Sep 9, 2009 at 10:12 AM, B.Masoud @ SHi...@saudihome.com wrote:
 I don't want to bill the first 30 seconds, that's all, why is that so
 strange??? My line does not support polarity reversal, so I don't want to
 bill for ringing the line...
 Do you suggest different way than this?

yes. Subtract 30 seconds from the billing when the call is completed.

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Re: [asterisk-users] RESET CDR

2009-09-09 Thread Todd Routhier
billsecs is a field in the CDR, it's already there.. Just don't bill based
on the duration field, bill based on the billsecs field and you should have
what you want.


On Wed, Sep 9, 2009 at 11:03 AM, B.Masoud @ SH i...@saudihome.com wrote:

 Can you provide me some code for that?
 I am NOOB

 -Original Message-
 From: asterisk-users-boun...@lists.digium.com
 [mailto:asterisk-users-boun...@lists.digium.com] On Behalf Of David
 Backeberg
 Sent: Wednesday, September 09, 2009 5:31 PM
 To: Asterisk Users Mailing List - Non-Commercial Discussion
 Subject: Re: [asterisk-users] RESET CDR

 On Wed, Sep 9, 2009 at 10:12 AM, B.Masoud @ SHi...@saudihome.com wrote:
  I don't want to bill the first 30 seconds, that's all, why is that so
  strange??? My line does not support polarity reversal, so I don't want to
  bill for ringing the line...
  Do you suggest different way than this?

 yes. Subtract 30 seconds from the billing when the call is completed.

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Re: [asterisk-users] RESET CDR

2009-09-09 Thread Ivan Stepaniuk
Todd Routhier wrote:
 billsecs is a field in the CDR, it's already there.. Just don't bill 
 based on the duration field, bill based on the billsecs field and you 
 should have what you want.

He says that the line does not support polarity reversal. It really 
depends on the type of PSTN interface he is using, but this probably 
means that the duration and the billsecs fields are going to be the 
same, as the channel gets answered and the ring-back tone is also counted.

I would rather say that if you do not have a proper way to detect the 
call progress, the system is not reliable for billing your users.

The main problem with the 30 seconds solution is that you will have a 
lot of calls made without charge (ie: 3 seconds ringing, 20 seconds 
call). And you will also charge people for ringing a phone during more 
that 30 seconds (ie: calling my grandma)

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Re: [asterisk-users] RESET CDR

2009-09-09 Thread B.Masoud @ SH
Yes that is the problem.
So what do you do when the line doesn't support polarity??
What is the best solution in this case?

Thanks.

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[mailto:asterisk-users-boun...@lists.digium.com] On Behalf Of Ivan Stepaniuk
Sent: Thursday, September 10, 2009 12:02 AM
To: Asterisk Users Mailing List - Non-Commercial Discussion
Subject: Re: [asterisk-users] RESET CDR

Todd Routhier wrote:
 billsecs is a field in the CDR, it's already there.. Just don't bill 
 based on the duration field, bill based on the billsecs field and you 
 should have what you want.

He says that the line does not support polarity reversal. It really 
depends on the type of PSTN interface he is using, but this probably 
means that the duration and the billsecs fields are going to be the 
same, as the channel gets answered and the ring-back tone is also counted.

I would rather say that if you do not have a proper way to detect the 
call progress, the system is not reliable for billing your users.

The main problem with the 30 seconds solution is that you will have a 
lot of calls made without charge (ie: 3 seconds ringing, 20 seconds 
call). And you will also charge people for ringing a phone during more 
that 30 seconds (ie: calling my grandma)

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[asterisk-users] RESET CDR

2009-09-08 Thread B.Masoud @ SH
Hello,

How can I reset CDR time , let's say after 30 seconds of answer signal,
reset CDR to 0 , any idea ??

 

Thanks.

 

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Re: [asterisk-users] RESET CDR

2009-09-08 Thread Matt Riddell
On 9/09/09 4:34 PM, B.Masoud @ SH wrote:
 Hello,

 How can I reset CDR time , let’s say after 30 seconds of answer signal,
 reset CDR to 0 , any idea ??

:) Use the ResetCDR application?

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Re: [asterisk-users] RESET CDR

2009-09-08 Thread B.Masoud @ SH
A little more help is appreciated, I know about ResetCDR() , but I want some
code that resets the call data after 30 seconds!
And where to put the code exactly.

Thanks.

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[mailto:asterisk-users-boun...@lists.digium.com] On Behalf Of Matt Riddell
Sent: Wednesday, September 09, 2009 7:51 AM
To: Asterisk Users Mailing List - Non-Commercial Discussion
Subject: Re: [asterisk-users] RESET CDR

On 9/09/09 4:34 PM, B.Masoud @ SH wrote:
 Hello,

 How can I reset CDR time , let's say after 30 seconds of answer signal,
 reset CDR to 0 , any idea ??

:) Use the ResetCDR application?

-- 
Cheers,

Matt Riddell
Director
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Re: [asterisk-users] RESET CDR

2009-09-08 Thread Matt Riddell
On 9/09/09 5:14 PM, B.Masoud @ SH wrote:
 A little more help is appreciated, I know about ResetCDR() , but I want some
 code that resets the call data after 30 seconds!
 And where to put the code exactly.

What a strange request.  Why exactly are you wanting to do this?

If you're wanting all your calls to look like they are 30 seconds 
shorter can't you just use the time-30 seconds?

-- 
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Matt Riddell
Director
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