Re: [Asterisk-Users] SpanDSP - Still can't send
To all those still struggling with faxing I don't know exactly _what_ fixed the problem, but I tried faxing again on a later version of libpri, zaptel and asterisk (all CVS HEAD as of 1st March) with spandsp-0.0.2pre10, and now everything works perfectly. Faxing in both directions, different resolutions (STD and FINE), single and multiple pages, originated from both the dialplan (inbound call to extension configured with txfax|caller) and sample.call file. I am running Debian Testing (Sarge) with libtiff 3.7.1 A special thanks to Mindaugas who sent me a test file, and some scripty-bits... - Original Message - From: Rod Bacon [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: asterisk-users@lists.digium.com Sent: Wednesday, February 23, 2005 2:55 PM Subject: [Asterisk-Users] SpanDSP - Still can't send I have googled until blie in the face, WiKi'd until physically exhausted and searched through every Asterisk repository that I can find, all to no avail... No matter which version of SpanDSP I use, with which version of libtiff, Asterisk, ... I simply cannot send faxes. I can receive faxes *perfectly* (sending from standard fax macine on POTS) into tiff file (via Digium analogue card), but when I try to send the same file back, to the same fax machine, nothing happens. The fax rings, answers, then disconnects shortly after (fails negotiation?). I would love to enable logging in detail, but am unsure where to enable logging for SpanDSP. Can anyone point me in the most logical direction, please? ___ Asterisk-Users mailing list Asterisk-Users@lists.digium.com http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users ___ Asterisk-Users mailing list Asterisk-Users@lists.digium.com http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [Asterisk-Users] SpanDSP - Still can't send
Fair point. The FAX apps used to display a note about this when you checked their parameters. That seems to have disappeared from the source code of both rxfax and txfax. I just put it back in. Regards, Steve Rod Bacon wrote: From my personal experience, the 'weird ideas' come from a lack of consistent documentation. The caller option, and the use thereof is not clearly explained anywhere that I can find, and examples of spandsp that are floating around the WiKi (among other places) erroneously leave this option out. In any case, I still can't send faxes... with or without the option. - Original Message - From: Steve Underwood [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Asterisk Users Mailing List - Non-Commercial Discussion asterisk-users@lists.digium.com Sent: Thursday, February 24, 2005 11:02 AM Subject: Re: [Asterisk-Users] SpanDSP - Still can't send Where do these weird ideas come from? :-) Why on earth would it relate to the dial plan? What difference can you imagine the dial plan might make? If you want txfax to behave as the calling, rather than the answering, side you need to specify the caller option. Don't confuse caller with sender. The machine which makes a call can be either the one sending a FAX, or one picking up a FAX by polling. That is the reason the caller option exists. Regards, Steve Rod Bacon wrote: My understanding is that this is only required when using it inside a dialplan. Eg, the extension answers, then switches to fax originator mode. For testing, I am using txfax within a sample.call file which I drop into /var/spool/asterisk/outgoing, as per latest docs. Listening at the receiving fax, the tones sound right, although I must confess that I don't actually speak fax. Does anyone have any ideas about debugging SpanDSP? - Original Message - From: Peter Svensson [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Asterisk Users Mailing List - Non-Commercial Discussion asterisk-users@lists.digium.com Sent: Wednesday, February 23, 2005 6:28 PM Subject: Re: [Asterisk-Users] SpanDSP - Still can't send On Wed, 23 Feb 2005, Rod Bacon wrote: No matter which version of SpanDSP I use, with which version of libtiff, Asterisk, ... I simply cannot send faxes. Did you remember to add the caller option to txfax? Peter ___ Asterisk-Users mailing list Asterisk-Users@lists.digium.com http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
RE: [Asterisk-Users] SpanDSP - Still can't send
Hello, I had a major headache trying to send faxes for 2 weeks now. Two things helped me: 1. Correct TIF files (received file not always worked for me) 2. Time synchronization e.g. 'ntpdate time.windows.com'. Now %90 of faxes come nice and clean. (10% - incomplete). If you want test TIF file which works - email me directly. Some people stated that 'echotraining=no' in zapata.conf helps. I haven't noticed. Also |caller had no impact on my fax tests. Strange. I have another problem - I can't send multipage TIF files - only first page arrives. Nothing helps - no info in Google. Sincerely, Mindaugas Kezys -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:asterisk-users- [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Steve Underwood Sent: Thursday, February 24, 2005 10:26 AM To: Asterisk Users Mailing List - Non-Commercial Discussion Subject: Re: [Asterisk-Users] SpanDSP - Still can't send Fair point. The FAX apps used to display a note about this when you checked their parameters. That seems to have disappeared from the source code of both rxfax and txfax. I just put it back in. Regards, Steve Rod Bacon wrote: From my personal experience, the 'weird ideas' come from a lack of consistent documentation. The caller option, and the use thereof is not clearly explained anywhere that I can find, and examples of spandsp that are floating around the WiKi (among other places) erroneously leave this option out. In any case, I still can't send faxes... with or without the option. - Original Message - From: Steve Underwood [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Asterisk Users Mailing List - Non-Commercial Discussion asterisk-users@lists.digium.com Sent: Thursday, February 24, 2005 11:02 AM Subject: Re: [Asterisk-Users] SpanDSP - Still can't send Where do these weird ideas come from? :-) Why on earth would it relate to the dial plan? What difference can you imagine the dial plan might make? If you want txfax to behave as the calling, rather than the answering, side you need to specify the caller option. Don't confuse caller with sender. The machine which makes a call can be either the one sending a FAX, or one picking up a FAX by polling. That is the reason the caller option exists. Regards, Steve Rod Bacon wrote: My understanding is that this is only required when using it inside a dialplan. Eg, the extension answers, then switches to fax originator mode. For testing, I am using txfax within a sample.call file which I drop into /var/spool/asterisk/outgoing, as per latest docs. Listening at the receiving fax, the tones sound right, although I must confess that I don't actually speak fax. Does anyone have any ideas about debugging SpanDSP? - Original Message - From: Peter Svensson [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Asterisk Users Mailing List - Non-Commercial Discussion asterisk-users@lists.digium.com Sent: Wednesday, February 23, 2005 6:28 PM Subject: Re: [Asterisk-Users] SpanDSP - Still can't send On Wed, 23 Feb 2005, Rod Bacon wrote: No matter which version of SpanDSP I use, with which version of libtiff, Asterisk, ... I simply cannot send faxes. Did you remember to add the caller option to txfax? Peter ___ Asterisk-Users mailing list Asterisk-Users@lists.digium.com http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users ___ Asterisk-Users mailing list Asterisk-Users@lists.digium.com http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [Asterisk-Users] SpanDSP - Still can't send
Thanks Steve, and please don't think I am criticising you or anyone else. Everyone who is working on Asterisk and related products are pure legends as far as I'm concerned... I wish I could help in some way (I'm not a programmer's backside!). - Original Message - From: Steve Underwood [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Asterisk Users Mailing List - Non-Commercial Discussion asterisk-users@lists.digium.com Sent: Thursday, February 24, 2005 7:25 PM Subject: Re: [Asterisk-Users] SpanDSP - Still can't send Fair point. The FAX apps used to display a note about this when you checked their parameters. That seems to have disappeared from the source code of both rxfax and txfax. I just put it back in. Regards, Steve Rod Bacon wrote: From my personal experience, the 'weird ideas' come from a lack of consistent documentation. The caller option, and the use thereof is not clearly explained anywhere that I can find, and examples of spandsp that are floating around the WiKi (among other places) erroneously leave this option out. In any case, I still can't send faxes... with or without the option. - Original Message - From: Steve Underwood [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Asterisk Users Mailing List - Non-Commercial Discussion asterisk-users@lists.digium.com Sent: Thursday, February 24, 2005 11:02 AM Subject: Re: [Asterisk-Users] SpanDSP - Still can't send Where do these weird ideas come from? :-) Why on earth would it relate to the dial plan? What difference can you imagine the dial plan might make? If you want txfax to behave as the calling, rather than the answering, side you need to specify the caller option. Don't confuse caller with sender. The machine which makes a call can be either the one sending a FAX, or one picking up a FAX by polling. That is the reason the caller option exists. Regards, Steve Rod Bacon wrote: My understanding is that this is only required when using it inside a dialplan. Eg, the extension answers, then switches to fax originator mode. For testing, I am using txfax within a sample.call file which I drop into /var/spool/asterisk/outgoing, as per latest docs. Listening at the receiving fax, the tones sound right, although I must confess that I don't actually speak fax. Does anyone have any ideas about debugging SpanDSP? - Original Message - From: Peter Svensson [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Asterisk Users Mailing List - Non-Commercial Discussion asterisk-users@lists.digium.com Sent: Wednesday, February 23, 2005 6:28 PM Subject: Re: [Asterisk-Users] SpanDSP - Still can't send On Wed, 23 Feb 2005, Rod Bacon wrote: No matter which version of SpanDSP I use, with which version of libtiff, Asterisk, ... I simply cannot send faxes. Did you remember to add the caller option to txfax? Peter ___ Asterisk-Users mailing list Asterisk-Users@lists.digium.com http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users ___ Asterisk-Users mailing list Asterisk-Users@lists.digium.com http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [Asterisk-Users] SpanDSP - Still can't send
BTW what versions of libtiff spandsp u using, cuz i can't recieve faxes at all. ___ Asterisk-Users mailing list Asterisk-Users@lists.digium.com http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [Asterisk-Users] SpanDSP - Still can't send
Neither can I. Check out my bug for my list of versions: http://www.opencall.org/mantis/bug_view_page.php?bug_id=029 -Matthew - Original Message - From: Giovanni Powell [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Asterisk Users Mailing List - Non-Commercial Discussion asterisk-users@lists.digium.com Sent: Wednesday, February 23, 2005 8:28 AM Subject: Re: [Asterisk-Users] SpanDSP - Still can't send BTW what versions of libtiff spandsp u using, cuz i can't recieve faxes at all. ___ Asterisk-Users mailing list Asterisk-Users@lists.digium.com http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users ___ Asterisk-Users mailing list Asterisk-Users@lists.digium.com http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [Asterisk-Users] SpanDSP - Still can't send
My understanding is that this is only required when using it inside a dialplan. Eg, the extension answers, then switches to fax originator mode. For testing, I am using txfax within a sample.call file which I drop into /var/spool/asterisk/outgoing, as per latest docs. Listening at the receiving fax, the tones sound right, although I must confess that I don't actually speak fax. Does anyone have any ideas about debugging SpanDSP? - Original Message - From: Peter Svensson [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Asterisk Users Mailing List - Non-Commercial Discussion asterisk-users@lists.digium.com Sent: Wednesday, February 23, 2005 6:28 PM Subject: Re: [Asterisk-Users] SpanDSP - Still can't send On Wed, 23 Feb 2005, Rod Bacon wrote: No matter which version of SpanDSP I use, with which version of libtiff, Asterisk, ... I simply cannot send faxes. Did you remember to add the caller option to txfax? Peter ___ Asterisk-Users mailing list Asterisk-Users@lists.digium.com http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users ___ Asterisk-Users mailing list Asterisk-Users@lists.digium.com http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [Asterisk-Users] SpanDSP - Still can't send
On Thu, 24 Feb 2005, Rod Bacon wrote: My understanding is that this is only required when using it inside a dialplan. Eg, the extension answers, then switches to fax originator mode. No. To quote the mail from Steve Underwood: Many people have it working that way. Very few people use it for fax pickup. To change it from answerer to originator mode you just need to add the caller option when you call txfax. You need to tell txfax that it is to act as the initiative-taker (originator) of the fax conversation. This is orthogonal to the direction of the transfer (that is selected by choosing txfax or rxfax). SpanDSP defaults to being the terminator and not the originator unless given the caller parameter. Have you tried adding the caller option to txfax? For testing, I am using txfax within a sample.call file which I drop into /var/spool/asterisk/outgoing, as per latest docs. Listening at the receiving fax, the tones sound right, although I must confess that I don't actually speak fax. ___ Asterisk-Users mailing list Asterisk-Users@lists.digium.com http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [Asterisk-Users] SpanDSP - Still can't send
I did. No joy. Output from Asterisk console below. The parameter is getting through OK, but same result. -- Attempting call on Zap/1/650 for application txfax(/tmp/test.fax|caller) (Retry 1) Channel Zap/1-1 was answered. Lauching txfax(/tmp/test.fax|caller) on Zap/1-1 -- Hungup 'Zap/1-1' - Original Message - From: Peter Svensson [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Asterisk Users Mailing List - Non-Commercial Discussion asterisk-users@lists.digium.com Sent: Thursday, February 24, 2005 8:38 AM Subject: Re: [Asterisk-Users] SpanDSP - Still can't send On Thu, 24 Feb 2005, Rod Bacon wrote: My understanding is that this is only required when using it inside a dialplan. Eg, the extension answers, then switches to fax originator mode. No. To quote the mail from Steve Underwood: Many people have it working that way. Very few people use it for fax pickup. To change it from answerer to originator mode you just need to add the caller option when you call txfax. You need to tell txfax that it is to act as the initiative-taker (originator) of the fax conversation. This is orthogonal to the direction of the transfer (that is selected by choosing txfax or rxfax). SpanDSP defaults to being the terminator and not the originator unless given the caller parameter. Have you tried adding the caller option to txfax? For testing, I am using txfax within a sample.call file which I drop into /var/spool/asterisk/outgoing, as per latest docs. Listening at the receiving fax, the tones sound right, although I must confess that I don't actually speak fax. ___ Asterisk-Users mailing list Asterisk-Users@lists.digium.com http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users ___ Asterisk-Users mailing list Asterisk-Users@lists.digium.com http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [Asterisk-Users] SpanDSP - Still can't send
Where do these weird ideas come from? :-) Why on earth would it relate to the dial plan? What difference can you imagine the dial plan might make? If you want txfax to behave as the calling, rather than the answering, side you need to specify the caller option. Don't confuse caller with sender. The machine which makes a call can be either the one sending a FAX, or one picking up a FAX by polling. That is the reason the caller option exists. Regards, Steve Rod Bacon wrote: My understanding is that this is only required when using it inside a dialplan. Eg, the extension answers, then switches to fax originator mode. For testing, I am using txfax within a sample.call file which I drop into /var/spool/asterisk/outgoing, as per latest docs. Listening at the receiving fax, the tones sound right, although I must confess that I don't actually speak fax. Does anyone have any ideas about debugging SpanDSP? - Original Message - From: Peter Svensson [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Asterisk Users Mailing List - Non-Commercial Discussion asterisk-users@lists.digium.com Sent: Wednesday, February 23, 2005 6:28 PM Subject: Re: [Asterisk-Users] SpanDSP - Still can't send On Wed, 23 Feb 2005, Rod Bacon wrote: No matter which version of SpanDSP I use, with which version of libtiff, Asterisk, ... I simply cannot send faxes. Did you remember to add the caller option to txfax? Peter ___ Asterisk-Users mailing list Asterisk-Users@lists.digium.com http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [Asterisk-Users] SpanDSP - Still can't send
From my personal experience, the 'weird ideas' come from a lack of consistent documentation. The caller option, and the use thereof is not clearly explained anywhere that I can find, and examples of spandsp that are floating around the WiKi (among other places) erroneously leave this option out. In any case, I still can't send faxes... with or without the option. - Original Message - From: Steve Underwood [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Asterisk Users Mailing List - Non-Commercial Discussion asterisk-users@lists.digium.com Sent: Thursday, February 24, 2005 11:02 AM Subject: Re: [Asterisk-Users] SpanDSP - Still can't send Where do these weird ideas come from? :-) Why on earth would it relate to the dial plan? What difference can you imagine the dial plan might make? If you want txfax to behave as the calling, rather than the answering, side you need to specify the caller option. Don't confuse caller with sender. The machine which makes a call can be either the one sending a FAX, or one picking up a FAX by polling. That is the reason the caller option exists. Regards, Steve Rod Bacon wrote: My understanding is that this is only required when using it inside a dialplan. Eg, the extension answers, then switches to fax originator mode. For testing, I am using txfax within a sample.call file which I drop into /var/spool/asterisk/outgoing, as per latest docs. Listening at the receiving fax, the tones sound right, although I must confess that I don't actually speak fax. Does anyone have any ideas about debugging SpanDSP? - Original Message - From: Peter Svensson [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Asterisk Users Mailing List - Non-Commercial Discussion asterisk-users@lists.digium.com Sent: Wednesday, February 23, 2005 6:28 PM Subject: Re: [Asterisk-Users] SpanDSP - Still can't send On Wed, 23 Feb 2005, Rod Bacon wrote: No matter which version of SpanDSP I use, with which version of libtiff, Asterisk, ... I simply cannot send faxes. Did you remember to add the caller option to txfax? Peter ___ Asterisk-Users mailing list Asterisk-Users@lists.digium.com http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users ___ Asterisk-Users mailing list Asterisk-Users@lists.digium.com http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [Asterisk-Users] SpanDSP - Still can't send
On Wed, 23 Feb 2005, Rod Bacon wrote: No matter which version of SpanDSP I use, with which version of libtiff, Asterisk, ... I simply cannot send faxes. Did you remember to add the caller option to txfax? Peter ___ Asterisk-Users mailing list Asterisk-Users@lists.digium.com http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
