Re: [asterisk-users] Modifying CDR values from a hangup extension in Asterisk 13
Hello, Digging a bit further, having a local cdr_custom CSV seems to make updatings work ! I did have enough time to properly test this and become more affirmative but it seems to depend on active CDR backend; 2018-02-21 22:19 GMT+01:00 Olivier: > As a complement to my previous post, may I add that I observed the > following behaviours: > > 1. On one system (Debian Stretch/asterisk 13.19 compiled from source), > hangup causes are correctly saved in a custom CDR column. > > 2. On an other system (Debian Stretch/packaged asterisk), some rtcp stats > are not-correctly saved in a custom CDR column (I also tried unsuccessfully > with userfield column). > > In both cases: > - CDR updates are triggered by a hangup handler pushed with > CHANNEL(hangup-handler-push). > - CDR are saved through ODBC i, aMariaDB or Postgres database. > > Toughts ? > > 2018-02-21 0:07 GMT+01:00 Olivier : > >> Hi, >> >> Reading this old thread, may I ask if keeping hangup handlers from >> updating CDR values still enforced in Asterisk 15 ? >> If positive, would it be very complex to add in Asterisk, a configuration >> option allowing a system administrator to list in cdr.conf, the CDR fields >> allowed to be updated in hangup handlers ? >> >> I'm planning to store some RTCP stats. >> Saving them in CDR(userfield) would be perfect. >> >> Cheers >> >> >> 2015-08-10 15:05 GMT+02:00 Matthew Jordan : >> >>> >>> On Tue, Aug 4, 2015 at 9:16 AM, Filip Jenicek >>> wrote: >>> With endbeforehexten=no I actually get two CDR entries. One for the call and a second one for the "h" extension. "","13","10","sip-locals","""13"" <13>","SIP/13-0006","SIP/1 0-0007","Dial","SIP/10","2015-08-04 06:28:44","2015-08-04 06:28:45","2015-08-04 06:28:47",3,1,"ANSWERED","DOCU MENTATION","1438669724.6","empty" "","13","h","sip-locals","""13"" <13>","SIP/13-0006","","NoOp","changed","2015-08-04 06:28:47","2015-08-04 06:28:47","2015-08-04 06:28:47",0,0,"ANSWERED","DOCU MENTATION","1438669724.6","changed" The first one contains the call itself. There are durations, CDR variables set during the call, etc. The second one contains only things configured in the "h" extension. With endbeforehexten=yes, the cdr contains: "","13","10","sip-locals","""13"" <13>","SIP/13-0006","SIP/1 0-0007","Dial","SIP/10","2015-08-04 06:28:44","2015-08-04 06:28:45","2015-08-04 06:28:47",3,1,"ANSWERED","DOCU MENTATION","1438669724.6","empty" There is only the call, nothing from the "h" extension. I forgot to mention that I'm using Asterisk 13.1-cert2. Modifying CDR records in the "h" extension used to work fine with Asterisk 1.8. By analyzing the code I must confirm that the endbeforehexten option behaves exactly according to its description: As each CDR for a channel is finished, its end time is updated and the CDR is finalized. When a channel is hung up and hangup logic is present (in the form of a hangup handler or the h extension), a new CDR is generated for the channel. Any statistics are gathered from this new CDR. By enabling this option, no new CDR is created for the dialplan logic that is executed in h extensions or attached hangup handler subroutines. The default value is yes, indicating that a CDR will be generated during hangup logic. I tried to delay the "h" extension by several seconds and I found out, that the CDR record is sent to the cdr backend later. Unfortunately, it is not modifiable from the "h" extension, because the cdr_object is already in the finalized table. Is there a way how to modify the CDR without hacking the code? >>> Unfortunately, no. >>> >>> How bad idea is it to comment the (it_cdr->fn_table == _state_fn_table) tests in ast_cdr_setuserfield and ast_cdr_setvar and thus allow the "h" extension write to a finalized CDR? >>> Well... I'm not sure :-) >>> >>> As the guy who signed himself up for the dubious honour of porting the >>> CDR code to Asterisk 13 - and trying to figure out a consistent way to make >>> it work - I err'd on the side of extreme caution. That is, if someone could >>> make a mess of things, I should probably try to keep it from happening. >>> >>> A CDR can be finalized in a variety of ways: >>> - Due to someone leaving a bridge >>> - Due to a channel being hung up >>> - Due to the CDR being forked >>> >>> Of those, modifying values is generally dangerous only in the "fork" >>> scenario, as it may result in a CDR that a user 'ended' being modified. >>> This is a concern when, as updating a value on a CDR walks the entire chain >>> of CDRs, for all CDRs related to the channel: >>> >>> for (; (cdr = ao2_iterator_next(it_cdrs)); ao2_unlock(cdr), >>> ao2_cleanup(cdr)) { >>>
Re: [asterisk-users] Modifying CDR values from a hangup extension in Asterisk 13
As a complement to my previous post, may I add that I observed the following behaviours: 1. On one system (Debian Stretch/asterisk 13.19 compiled from source), hangup causes are correctly saved in a custom CDR column. 2. On an other system (Debian Stretch/packaged asterisk), some rtcp stats are not-correctly saved in a custom CDR column (I also tried unsuccessfully with userfield column). In both cases: - CDR updates are triggered by a hangup handler pushed with CHANNEL(hangup-handler-push). - CDR are saved through ODBC i, aMariaDB or Postgres database. Toughts ? 2018-02-21 0:07 GMT+01:00 Olivier: > Hi, > > Reading this old thread, may I ask if keeping hangup handlers from > updating CDR values still enforced in Asterisk 15 ? > If positive, would it be very complex to add in Asterisk, a configuration > option allowing a system administrator to list in cdr.conf, the CDR fields > allowed to be updated in hangup handlers ? > > I'm planning to store some RTCP stats. > Saving them in CDR(userfield) would be perfect. > > Cheers > > > 2015-08-10 15:05 GMT+02:00 Matthew Jordan : > >> >> On Tue, Aug 4, 2015 at 9:16 AM, Filip Jenicek wrote: >> >>> With endbeforehexten=no I actually get two CDR entries. One for the call >>> and a second one for the "h" extension. >>> "","13","10","sip-locals","""13"" <13>","SIP/13-0006","SIP/1 >>> 0-0007","Dial","SIP/10","2015-08-04 06:28:44","2015-08-04 >>> 06:28:45","2015-08-04 06:28:47",3,1,"ANSWERED","DOCU >>> MENTATION","1438669724.6","empty" >>> "","13","h","sip-locals","""13"" >>> <13>","SIP/13-0006","","NoOp","changed","2015-08-04 >>> 06:28:47","2015-08-04 06:28:47","2015-08-04 06:28:47",0,0,"ANSWERED","DOCU >>> MENTATION","1438669724.6","changed" >>> The first one contains the call itself. There are durations, CDR >>> variables set during the call, etc. >>> The second one contains only things configured in the "h" extension. >>> >>> With endbeforehexten=yes, the cdr contains: >>> "","13","10","sip-locals","""13"" <13>","SIP/13-0006","SIP/1 >>> 0-0007","Dial","SIP/10","2015-08-04 06:28:44","2015-08-04 >>> 06:28:45","2015-08-04 06:28:47",3,1,"ANSWERED","DOCU >>> MENTATION","1438669724.6","empty" >>> There is only the call, nothing from the "h" extension. >>> >>> I forgot to mention that I'm using Asterisk 13.1-cert2. Modifying CDR >>> records in the "h" extension used to work fine with Asterisk 1.8. >>> >>> By analyzing the code I must confirm that the endbeforehexten option >>> behaves exactly according to its description: >>> As each CDR for a channel is finished, its end time is updated >>> and the CDR is finalized. When a channel is hung up and hangup >>> logic is present (in the form of a hangup handler or the >>> h extension), a new CDR is generated for the >>> channel. Any statistics are gathered from this new CDR. By enabling >>> this option, no new CDR is created for the dialplan logic that is >>> executed in h extensions or attached hangup handler >>> subroutines. The default value is yes, indicating >>> that a CDR will be generated during hangup logic. >>> >>> I tried to delay the "h" extension by several seconds and I found out, >>> that the CDR record is sent to the cdr backend later. Unfortunately, it is >>> not modifiable from the "h" extension, because the cdr_object is already in >>> the finalized table. >>> >>> Is there a way how to modify the CDR without hacking the code? >>> >>> >> Unfortunately, no. >> >> >>> How bad idea is it to comment the (it_cdr->fn_table == >>> _state_fn_table) tests in ast_cdr_setuserfield and ast_cdr_setvar >>> and thus allow the "h" extension write to a finalized CDR? >>> >>> >> Well... I'm not sure :-) >> >> As the guy who signed himself up for the dubious honour of porting the >> CDR code to Asterisk 13 - and trying to figure out a consistent way to make >> it work - I err'd on the side of extreme caution. That is, if someone could >> make a mess of things, I should probably try to keep it from happening. >> >> A CDR can be finalized in a variety of ways: >> - Due to someone leaving a bridge >> - Due to a channel being hung up >> - Due to the CDR being forked >> >> Of those, modifying values is generally dangerous only in the "fork" >> scenario, as it may result in a CDR that a user 'ended' being modified. >> This is a concern when, as updating a value on a CDR walks the entire chain >> of CDRs, for all CDRs related to the channel: >> >> for (; (cdr = ao2_iterator_next(it_cdrs)); ao2_unlock(cdr), >> ao2_cleanup(cdr)) { >> ao2_lock(cdr); >> for (it_cdr = cdr; it_cdr; it_cdr = it_cdr->next) { >> struct varshead *headp = NULL; >> >> if (it_cdr->fn_table == _state_fn_table) { >> continue; >> } >> if (!strcasecmp(channel_name, it_cdr->party_a.snapshot->name)) >> { >> headp = _cdr->party_a.variables; >> } else if
Re: [asterisk-users] Modifying CDR values from a hangup extension in Asterisk 13
Hi, Reading this old thread, may I ask if keeping hangup handlers from updating CDR values still enforced in Asterisk 15 ? If positive, would it be very complex to add in Asterisk, a configuration option allowing a system administrator to list in cdr.conf, the CDR fields allowed to be updated in hangup handlers ? I'm planning to store some RTCP stats. Saving them in CDR(userfield) would be perfect. Cheers 2015-08-10 15:05 GMT+02:00 Matthew Jordan: > > On Tue, Aug 4, 2015 at 9:16 AM, Filip Jenicek wrote: > >> With endbeforehexten=no I actually get two CDR entries. One for the call >> and a second one for the "h" extension. >> "","13","10","sip-locals","""13"" <13>","SIP/13-0006","SIP/ >> 10-0007","Dial","SIP/10","2015-08-04 06:28:44","2015-08-04 >> 06:28:45","2015-08-04 06:28:47",3,1,"ANSWERED"," >> DOCUMENTATION","1438669724.6","empty" >> "","13","h","sip-locals","""13"" >> <13>","SIP/13-0006","","NoOp","changed","2015-08-04 >> 06:28:47","2015-08-04 06:28:47","2015-08-04 06:28:47",0,0,"ANSWERED"," >> DOCUMENTATION","1438669724.6","changed" >> The first one contains the call itself. There are durations, CDR >> variables set during the call, etc. >> The second one contains only things configured in the "h" extension. >> >> With endbeforehexten=yes, the cdr contains: >> "","13","10","sip-locals","""13"" <13>","SIP/13-0006","SIP/ >> 10-0007","Dial","SIP/10","2015-08-04 06:28:44","2015-08-04 >> 06:28:45","2015-08-04 06:28:47",3,1,"ANSWERED"," >> DOCUMENTATION","1438669724.6","empty" >> There is only the call, nothing from the "h" extension. >> >> I forgot to mention that I'm using Asterisk 13.1-cert2. Modifying CDR >> records in the "h" extension used to work fine with Asterisk 1.8. >> >> By analyzing the code I must confirm that the endbeforehexten option >> behaves exactly according to its description: >> As each CDR for a channel is finished, its end time is updated >> and the CDR is finalized. When a channel is hung up and hangup >> logic is present (in the form of a hangup handler or the >> h extension), a new CDR is generated for the >> channel. Any statistics are gathered from this new CDR. By enabling >> this option, no new CDR is created for the dialplan logic that is >> executed in h extensions or attached hangup handler >> subroutines. The default value is yes, indicating >> that a CDR will be generated during hangup logic. >> >> I tried to delay the "h" extension by several seconds and I found out, >> that the CDR record is sent to the cdr backend later. Unfortunately, it is >> not modifiable from the "h" extension, because the cdr_object is already in >> the finalized table. >> >> Is there a way how to modify the CDR without hacking the code? >> >> > Unfortunately, no. > > >> How bad idea is it to comment the (it_cdr->fn_table == >> _state_fn_table) tests in ast_cdr_setuserfield and ast_cdr_setvar >> and thus allow the "h" extension write to a finalized CDR? >> >> > Well... I'm not sure :-) > > As the guy who signed himself up for the dubious honour of porting the CDR > code to Asterisk 13 - and trying to figure out a consistent way to make it > work - I err'd on the side of extreme caution. That is, if someone could > make a mess of things, I should probably try to keep it from happening. > > A CDR can be finalized in a variety of ways: > - Due to someone leaving a bridge > - Due to a channel being hung up > - Due to the CDR being forked > > Of those, modifying values is generally dangerous only in the "fork" > scenario, as it may result in a CDR that a user 'ended' being modified. > This is a concern when, as updating a value on a CDR walks the entire chain > of CDRs, for all CDRs related to the channel: > > for (; (cdr = ao2_iterator_next(it_cdrs)); ao2_unlock(cdr), > ao2_cleanup(cdr)) { > ao2_lock(cdr); > for (it_cdr = cdr; it_cdr; it_cdr = it_cdr->next) { > struct varshead *headp = NULL; > > if (it_cdr->fn_table == _state_fn_table) { > continue; > } > if (!strcasecmp(channel_name, it_cdr->party_a.snapshot->name)) > { > headp = _cdr->party_a.variables; > } else if (it_cdr->party_b.snapshot > && !strcasecmp(channel_name, it_cdr->party_b.snapshot->name)) > { > headp = _cdr->party_b.variables; > } > if (headp) { > set_variable(headp, name, value); > } > } > } > ao2_iterator_destroy(it_cdrs); > > Currently, the fact that the CDR is in the finalized state is what > prevents that value from being updated on CDRs that are effectively > "closed." > > Now, all of that being said: this is one of those cases where the current > behaviour - which is handling an extreme edge case - feels worse than > ignoring that edge case. It's not like we let folks update "core" CDR > values in any case, so you aren't in any danger
Re: [asterisk-users] Modifying CDR values from a hangup extension in Asterisk 13
On Tue, Aug 4, 2015 at 9:16 AM, Filip Jenicek fjeni...@kerio.com wrote: With endbeforehexten=no I actually get two CDR entries. One for the call and a second one for the h extension. ,13,10,sip-locals,13 13,SIP/13-0006,SIP/10-0007,Dial,SIP/10,2015-08-04 06:28:44,2015-08-04 06:28:45,2015-08-04 06:28:47,3,1,ANSWERED,DOCUMENTATION,1438669724.6,empty ,13,h,sip-locals,13 13,SIP/13-0006,,NoOp,changed,2015-08-04 06:28:47,2015-08-04 06:28:47,2015-08-04 06:28:47,0,0,ANSWERED,DOCUMENTATION,1438669724.6,changed The first one contains the call itself. There are durations, CDR variables set during the call, etc. The second one contains only things configured in the h extension. With endbeforehexten=yes, the cdr contains: ,13,10,sip-locals,13 13,SIP/13-0006,SIP/10-0007,Dial,SIP/10,2015-08-04 06:28:44,2015-08-04 06:28:45,2015-08-04 06:28:47,3,1,ANSWERED,DOCUMENTATION,1438669724.6,empty There is only the call, nothing from the h extension. I forgot to mention that I'm using Asterisk 13.1-cert2. Modifying CDR records in the h extension used to work fine with Asterisk 1.8. By analyzing the code I must confirm that the endbeforehexten option behaves exactly according to its description: As each CDR for a channel is finished, its end time is updated and the CDR is finalized. When a channel is hung up and hangup logic is present (in the form of a hangup handler or the literalh/literal extension), a new CDR is generated for the channel. Any statistics are gathered from this new CDR. By enabling this option, no new CDR is created for the dialplan logic that is executed in literalh/literal extensions or attached hangup handler subroutines. The default value is literalyes/literal, indicating that a CDR will be generated during hangup logic./para I tried to delay the h extension by several seconds and I found out, that the CDR record is sent to the cdr backend later. Unfortunately, it is not modifiable from the h extension, because the cdr_object is already in the finalized table. Is there a way how to modify the CDR without hacking the code? Unfortunately, no. How bad idea is it to comment the (it_cdr-fn_table == finalized_state_fn_table) tests in ast_cdr_setuserfield and ast_cdr_setvar and thus allow the h extension write to a finalized CDR? Well... I'm not sure :-) As the guy who signed himself up for the dubious honour of porting the CDR code to Asterisk 13 - and trying to figure out a consistent way to make it work - I err'd on the side of extreme caution. That is, if someone could make a mess of things, I should probably try to keep it from happening. A CDR can be finalized in a variety of ways: - Due to someone leaving a bridge - Due to a channel being hung up - Due to the CDR being forked Of those, modifying values is generally dangerous only in the fork scenario, as it may result in a CDR that a user 'ended' being modified. This is a concern when, as updating a value on a CDR walks the entire chain of CDRs, for all CDRs related to the channel: for (; (cdr = ao2_iterator_next(it_cdrs)); ao2_unlock(cdr), ao2_cleanup(cdr)) { ao2_lock(cdr); for (it_cdr = cdr; it_cdr; it_cdr = it_cdr-next) { struct varshead *headp = NULL; if (it_cdr-fn_table == finalized_state_fn_table) { continue; } if (!strcasecmp(channel_name, it_cdr-party_a.snapshot-name)) { headp = it_cdr-party_a.variables; } else if (it_cdr-party_b.snapshot !strcasecmp(channel_name, it_cdr-party_b.snapshot-name)) { headp = it_cdr-party_b.variables; } if (headp) { set_variable(headp, name, value); } } } ao2_iterator_destroy(it_cdrs); Currently, the fact that the CDR is in the finalized state is what prevents that value from being updated on CDRs that are effectively closed. Now, all of that being said: this is one of those cases where the current behaviour - which is handling an extreme edge case - feels worse than ignoring that edge case. It's not like we let folks update core CDR values in any case, so you aren't in any danger of changing the billsec on a forked CDR. The worst that happens is you update the userfield on forked closed CDRs when you didn't think it would update, in which case I suppose you could just use another field. Or read it first and append it from the dialplan. Is there any chance the feature was left out by an accident and if so, is there a plan to add it again? My extensions.conf: exten = h,1,NoOp(${CDR(userfield)}) exten = h,n,Set(CDR(userfield)=changed) exten = h,n,NoOp(${CDR(userfield)}) exten = h,n,System(sleep 5) exten = h,n,NoOp(${CDR(userfield)}) exten = 10,1,Set(CDR(userfield)=empty) exten = 10,n,Dial(SIP/10) Detailed log: http://pastebin.com/fZ9RAhL4 I'd be fine if you'd like to open an issue for it. If you have a
Re: [asterisk-users] Modifying CDR values from a hangup extension in Asterisk 13
With endbeforehexten=no I actually get two CDR entries. One for the call and a second one for the h extension. ,13,10,sip-locals,13 13,SIP/13-0006,SIP/10-0007,Dial,SIP/10,2015-08-04 06:28:44,2015-08-04 06:28:45,2015-08-04 06:28:47,3,1,ANSWERED,DOCUMENTATION,1438669724.6,empty ,13,h,sip-locals,13 13,SIP/13-0006,,NoOp,changed,2015-08-04 06:28:47,2015-08-04 06:28:47,2015-08-04 06:28:47,0,0,ANSWERED,DOCUMENTATION,1438669724.6,changed The first one contains the call itself. There are durations, CDR variables set during the call, etc. The second one contains only things configured in the h extension. With endbeforehexten=yes, the cdr contains: ,13,10,sip-locals,13 13,SIP/13-0006,SIP/10-0007,Dial,SIP/10,2015-08-04 06:28:44,2015-08-04 06:28:45,2015-08-04 06:28:47,3,1,ANSWERED,DOCUMENTATION,1438669724.6,empty There is only the call, nothing from the h extension. I forgot to mention that I'm using Asterisk 13.1-cert2. Modifying CDR records in the h extension used to work fine with Asterisk 1.8. By analyzing the code I must confirm that the endbeforehexten option behaves exactly according to its description: As each CDR for a channel is finished, its end time is updated and the CDR is finalized. When a channel is hung up and hangup logic is present (in the form of a hangup handler or the literalh/literal extension), a new CDR is generated for the channel. Any statistics are gathered from this new CDR. By enabling this option, no new CDR is created for the dialplan logic that is executed in literalh/literal extensions or attached hangup handler subroutines. The default value is literalyes/literal, indicating that a CDR will be generated during hangup logic./para I tried to delay the h extension by several seconds and I found out, that the CDR record is sent to the cdr backend later. Unfortunately, it is not modifiable from the h extension, because the cdr_object is already in the finalized table. Is there a way how to modify the CDR without hacking the code? How bad idea is it to comment the (it_cdr-fn_table == finalized_state_fn_table) tests in ast_cdr_setuserfield and ast_cdr_setvar and thus allow the h extension write to a finalized CDR? Is there any chance the feature was left out by an accident and if so, is there a plan to add it again? My extensions.conf: exten = h,1,NoOp(${CDR(userfield)}) exten = h,n,Set(CDR(userfield)=changed) exten = h,n,NoOp(${CDR(userfield)}) exten = h,n,System(sleep 5) exten = h,n,NoOp(${CDR(userfield)}) exten = 10,1,Set(CDR(userfield)=empty) exten = 10,n,Dial(SIP/10) Detailed log: http://pastebin.com/fZ9RAhL4 On 08/03/2015 04:36 PM, jg wrote: I'm trying to migrate from Asterisk 1.8 to Asterisk 13 and can't figure this one out. I'm pretty sure the question has been already asked, but I failed to find a solution. Can you modify CDR values in an h-extension? My cdr.conf contains: [general] enable=yes unanswered=yes endbeforehexten=yes initiatedseconds=no batch=no The diaplan contains a simple h extension exten = h,1,NoOp(${CDR(userfield)}) exten = h,n,Set(CDR(userfield)=changed) exten = h,n,NoOp(${CDR(userfield)}) In the same context I execute: exten = 10,1,Set(CDR(userfield)=empty) exten = 10,n,Dial(SIP/10) The h extension outputs two lines with userfield set to empty. I would expect the second one to be changed. It seems that I can read the CDR values, but I can't change them. Is it a bug or a design thing? Am I missing something? I am not working with h-extensions myself, but the docs (https://wiki.asterisk.org/wiki/display/AST/Asterisk+13+Configuration_cdr) say something like this: |endbeforehexten| https://wiki.asterisk.org/wiki/display/AST/Asterisk+13+Configuration_cdr#Asterisk13Configuration_cdr-general_endbeforehexten |Boolean| |1| |false| Don't produce CDRs while executing hangup logic This would indicate that at least writing is disabled. jg -- _ -- Bandwidth and Colocation Provided by http://www.api-digital.com -- New to Asterisk? Join us for a live introductory webinar every Thurs: http://www.asterisk.org/hello asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [asterisk-users] Modifying CDR values from a hangup extension in Asterisk 13
I'm trying to migrate from Asterisk 1.8 to Asterisk 13 and can't figure this one out. I'm pretty sure the question has been already asked, but I failed to find a solution. Can you modify CDR values in an h-extension? My cdr.conf contains: [general] enable=yes unanswered=yes endbeforehexten=yes initiatedseconds=no batch=no The diaplan contains a simple h extension exten = h,1,NoOp(${CDR(userfield)}) exten = h,n,Set(CDR(userfield)=changed) exten = h,n,NoOp(${CDR(userfield)}) In the same context I execute: exten = 10,1,Set(CDR(userfield)=empty) exten = 10,n,Dial(SIP/10) The h extension outputs two lines with userfield set to empty. I would expect the second one to be changed. It seems that I can read the CDR values, but I can't change them. Is it a bug or a design thing? Am I missing something? I am not working with h-extensions myself, but the docs (https://wiki.asterisk.org/wiki/display/AST/Asterisk+13+Configuration_cdr) say something like this: |endbeforehexten| https://wiki.asterisk.org/wiki/display/AST/Asterisk+13+Configuration_cdr#Asterisk13Configuration_cdr-general_endbeforehexten |Boolean| |1| |false| Don't produce CDRs while executing hangup logic This would indicate that at least writing is disabled. jg -- _ -- Bandwidth and Colocation Provided by http://www.api-digital.com -- New to Asterisk? Join us for a live introductory webinar every Thurs: http://www.asterisk.org/hello asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users