Re: [ath9k-devel] AP Limitation because of ATH9K_HTC_MAX_STA

2013-11-26 Thread Adrian Chadd
On 25 November 2013 23:24, Alex Hacker hac...@epn.ru wrote: Open source community is a biggest of the biggest customers, isn't it? It is a huge market, I speak about millions of gadgets and plastic boxes working under some sort of Linux or BSD. Adrian, did you told something like that when

Re: [ath9k-devel] AP Limitation because of ATH9K_HTC_MAX_STA

2013-11-25 Thread Alex Hacker
QCA stated the firmware source can be opened for the selected customers. We need to know who and how select the customers. Can the open source community be included in this category? Something hints me what it never happens. :( ___ ath9k-devel mailing

Re: [ath9k-devel] AP Limitation because of ATH9K_HTC_MAX_STA

2013-11-25 Thread Trevor Cullen
-devel-boun...@lists.ath9k.org] On Behalf Of Alex Hacker Sent: 25 November 2013 10:53 To: Ben Greear Cc: Gustavo Azambuja; ath9k-de...@venema.h4ckr.net Subject: Re: [ath9k-devel] AP Limitation because of ATH9K_HTC_MAX_STA QCA stated the firmware source can be opened for the selected customers. We need

Re: [ath9k-devel] AP Limitation because of ATH9K_HTC_MAX_STA

2013-11-25 Thread Trevor Cullen
: [ath9k-devel] AP Limitation because of ATH9K_HTC_MAX_STA Trevor Cullen wrote: Hello K2/AR9271 is limited to 8 nodes in AP mode due to RAM size imitation of internal on-chip RAM (K2 does not use external RAM). It was once suggested that, with a lot of work, the internal RAM might be able

Re: [ath9k-devel] AP Limitation because of ATH9K_HTC_MAX_STA

2013-11-25 Thread Sujith Manoharan
Trevor Cullen wrote: If you really want to get your hands on UB124 (AR9342) then we have them. Currently for use with external antenna only - no on-board PCB antenna. This is NOT a sales push but just an offer to help out. Getting your hands on working drivers for this though could be

Re: [ath9k-devel] AP Limitation because of ATH9K_HTC_MAX_STA

2013-11-25 Thread Sujith Manoharan
Alex Hacker wrote: QCA stated the firmware source can be opened for the selected customers. We need to know who and how select the customers. Can the open source community be included in this category? Something hints me what it never happens. :( Sorry, but which firmware are you referring

Re: [ath9k-devel] AP Limitation because of ATH9K_HTC_MAX_STA

2013-11-25 Thread Alex Hacker
No problem... We only need to disassemble a bunch of xtensa code and hack it whithout any support as always, as before. :) ___ ath9k-devel mailing list ath9k-devel@lists.ath9k.org https://lists.ath9k.org/mailman/listinfo/ath9k-devel

Re: [ath9k-devel] AP Limitation because of ATH9K_HTC_MAX_STA

2013-11-25 Thread Alex Hacker
Sorry for the offtopic Sujith, we talk about QCA9880 firmware. Regards, Alex. ___ ath9k-devel mailing list ath9k-devel@lists.ath9k.org https://lists.ath9k.org/mailman/listinfo/ath9k-devel

Re: [ath9k-devel] AP Limitation because of ATH9K_HTC_MAX_STA

2013-11-25 Thread Adrian Chadd
You need to be a big customer that requires that QCA open up the firmware to open source, much like what's driven ath9k support. I heartily encourage this. -adrian On 25 November 2013 04:02, Alex Hacker hac...@epn.ru wrote: Sorry for the offtopic Sujith, we talk about QCA9880 firmware.

Re: [ath9k-devel] AP Limitation because of ATH9K_HTC_MAX_STA

2013-11-25 Thread Ben Greear
On 11/25/2013 11:19 AM, Adrian Chadd wrote: You need to be a big customer that requires that QCA open up the firmware to open source, much like what's driven ath9k support. I heartily encourage this. If it's just money, maybe they could name their price and see if someone will pay it :)

Re: [ath9k-devel] AP Limitation because of ATH9K_HTC_MAX_STA

2013-11-25 Thread Adrian Chadd
On 25 November 2013 11:28, Ben Greear gree...@candelatech.com wrote: On 11/25/2013 11:19 AM, Adrian Chadd wrote: You need to be a big customer that requires that QCA open up the firmware to open source, much like what's driven ath9k support. I heartily encourage this. If it's just money,

Re: [ath9k-devel] AP Limitation because of ATH9K_HTC_MAX_STA

2013-11-25 Thread Alex Hacker
Open source community is a biggest of the biggest customers, isn't it? It is a huge market, I speak about millions of gadgets and plastic boxes working under some sort of Linux or BSD. Adrian, did you told something like that when worked for QCA? But IMO the reason is different. QCA prefers to

Re: [ath9k-devel] AP Limitation because of ATH9K_HTC_MAX_STA

2013-11-22 Thread Oleksij Rempel
Am 20.11.2013 20:01, schrieb Gustavo Azambuja: Ben, thanks for you reply. I need to convert my rPi into a AP (is not an option a real AP) to get at less 30 stations. You know some way to get a list of devices/drivers can support this? It's all about USB, RAM and power. If you use usb to

Re: [ath9k-devel] AP Limitation because of ATH9K_HTC_MAX_STA

2013-11-22 Thread Ben Greear
On 11/22/2013 02:23 AM, Oleksij Rempel wrote: Am 20.11.2013 20:01, schrieb Gustavo Azambuja: Ben, thanks for you reply. I need to convert my rPi into a AP (is not an option a real AP) to get at less 30 stations. You know some way to get a list of devices/drivers can support this? It's all

Re: [ath9k-devel] AP Limitation because of ATH9K_HTC_MAX_STA

2013-11-22 Thread Oleksij Rempel
Am 22.11.2013 15:40, schrieb Ben Greear: On 11/22/2013 02:23 AM, Oleksij Rempel wrote: Am 20.11.2013 20:01, schrieb Gustavo Azambuja: Ben, thanks for you reply. I need to convert my rPi into a AP (is not an option a real AP) to get at less 30 stations. You know some way to get a list of

Re: [ath9k-devel] AP Limitation because of ATH9K_HTC_MAX_STA

2013-11-22 Thread Ben Greear
On 11/22/2013 06:47 AM, Oleksij Rempel wrote: Am 22.11.2013 15:40, schrieb Ben Greear: On 11/22/2013 02:23 AM, Oleksij Rempel wrote: Am 20.11.2013 20:01, schrieb Gustavo Azambuja: Ben, thanks for you reply. I need to convert my rPi into a AP (is not an option a real AP) to get at less 30

Re: [ath9k-devel] AP Limitation because of ATH9K_HTC_MAX_STA

2013-11-22 Thread Oleksij Rempel
Am 22.11.2013 16:00, schrieb Ben Greear: On 11/22/2013 06:47 AM, Oleksij Rempel wrote: Am 22.11.2013 15:40, schrieb Ben Greear: On 11/22/2013 02:23 AM, Oleksij Rempel wrote: Am 20.11.2013 20:01, schrieb Gustavo Azambuja: Ben, thanks for you reply. I need to convert my rPi into a AP (is not

Re: [ath9k-devel] AP Limitation because of ATH9K_HTC_MAX_STA

2013-11-22 Thread Ben Greear
On 11/22/2013 07:02 AM, Oleksij Rempel wrote: Am 22.11.2013 16:00, schrieb Ben Greear: On 11/22/2013 06:47 AM, Oleksij Rempel wrote: Am 22.11.2013 15:40, schrieb Ben Greear: On 11/22/2013 02:23 AM, Oleksij Rempel wrote: Am 20.11.2013 20:01, schrieb Gustavo Azambuja: Ben, thanks for you

Re: [ath9k-devel] AP Limitation because of ATH9K_HTC_MAX_STA

2013-11-22 Thread Trevor Cullen
: Gustavo Azambuja; ath9k-de...@venema.h4ckr.net Subject: Re: [ath9k-devel] AP Limitation because of ATH9K_HTC_MAX_STA On 11/22/2013 07:02 AM, Oleksij Rempel wrote: Am 22.11.2013 16:00, schrieb Ben Greear: On 11/22/2013 06:47 AM, Oleksij Rempel wrote: Am 22.11.2013 15:40, schrieb Ben Greear: On 11/22

Re: [ath9k-devel] AP Limitation because of ATH9K_HTC_MAX_STA

2013-11-22 Thread Sujith Manoharan
Trevor Cullen wrote: Hello K2/AR9271 is limited to 8 nodes in AP mode due to RAM size imitation of internal on-chip RAM (K2 does not use external RAM). It was once suggested that, with a lot of work, the internal RAM might be able to be used more efficiently to realise up to 16 nodes. But

Re: [ath9k-devel] AP Limitation because of ATH9K_HTC_MAX_STA

2013-11-20 Thread Gustavo
Hi David, how you resolve this problem? What you do? Thanks! ___ ath9k-devel mailing list ath9k-devel@lists.ath9k.org https://lists.ath9k.org/mailman/listinfo/ath9k-devel

Re: [ath9k-devel] AP Limitation because of ATH9K_HTC_MAX_STA

2013-11-20 Thread Ben Greear
On 11/20/2013 10:44 AM, Gustavo wrote: Hi David, how you resolve this problem? What you do? You may end up having to re-write firmware, and perhaps significantly. That is not likely to be very easy Thanks, Ben -- Ben Greear gree...@candelatech.com Candela Technologies Inc

Re: [ath9k-devel] AP Limitation because of ATH9K_HTC_MAX_STA

2013-11-20 Thread Gustavo Azambuja
Ben, thanks for you reply. I need to convert my rPi into a AP (is not an option a real AP) to get at less 30 stations. You know some way to get a list of devices/drivers can support this? Thanks On Wed, Nov 20, 2013 at 4:58 PM, Ben Greear gree...@candelatech.com wrote: On 11/20/2013 10:44 AM,

Re: [ath9k-devel] AP Limitation because of ATH9K_HTC_MAX_STA

2013-07-09 Thread David Jardin
Hi Adrian, thanks for the response. That's bad news. I thought about using the Pi's as they have much more RAM and CPU power than normal consumer access points have - which seems to be the limiting factor of clients on those devices. And as we are a non profit organization we simply can't afford

Re: [ath9k-devel] AP Limitation because of ATH9K_HTC_MAX_STA

2013-07-09 Thread Oleksij Rempel
How replacing AP with about MESH or AdHock+BATMAN? Am 09.07.2013 10:46, schrieb David Jardin: Hi Adrian, thanks for the response. That's bad news. I thought about using the Pi's as they have much more RAM and CPU power than normal consumer access points have - which seems to be the limiting

Re: [ath9k-devel] AP Limitation because of ATH9K_HTC_MAX_STA

2013-07-09 Thread Felix Fietkau
On 2013-07-09 10:50 AM, Oleksij Rempel wrote: How replacing AP with about MESH or AdHock+BATMAN? Why? That sounds like a recipe for disaster to me (at least for conference networks). The ath9k_htc stuff can't handle more peers in mesh/ad-hoc than clients in AP mode. In setting up a conference

Re: [ath9k-devel] AP Limitation because of ATH9K_HTC_MAX_STA

2013-07-09 Thread Oleksij Rempel
Am 09.07.2013 11:18, schrieb Felix Fietkau: On 2013-07-09 10:50 AM, Oleksij Rempel wrote: How replacing AP with about MESH or AdHock+BATMAN? Why? That sounds like a recipe for disaster to me (at least for conference networks). The ath9k_htc stuff can't handle more peers in mesh/ad-hoc than

Re: [ath9k-devel] AP Limitation because of ATH9K_HTC_MAX_STA

2013-07-09 Thread Felix Fietkau
On 2013-07-09 11:34 AM, Oleksij Rempel wrote: Am 09.07.2013 11:18, schrieb Felix Fietkau: On 2013-07-09 10:50 AM, Oleksij Rempel wrote: How replacing AP with about MESH or AdHock+BATMAN? Why? That sounds like a recipe for disaster to me (at least for conference networks). The ath9k_htc stuff

Re: [ath9k-devel] AP Limitation because of ATH9K_HTC_MAX_STA

2013-07-09 Thread Adrian Chadd
The newer, higher end tplink/dlink devices that use AR9344 ship with 128mb RAM and a 500MHz mips74k core. I think that's enough for your needs. -adrian On 9 July 2013 01:46, David Jardin i...@djardin.de wrote: Hi Adrian, thanks for the response. That's bad news. I thought about using the

[ath9k-devel] AP Limitation because of ATH9K_HTC_MAX_STA

2013-07-08 Thread David Jardin
Hi, I'm organizing all the technical stuff for several conferences about Joomla (opensource content managment system) with 200-300 participants and therefore I was looking for a low-budget wifi-solution that is able to handle this number of clients. I decided to use a few raspberry pi's with

Re: [ath9k-devel] AP Limitation because of ATH9K_HTC_MAX_STA

2013-07-08 Thread Adrian Chadd
The ath9k_htc stuff isn't ready to do what you want. And even if it was, the performance would be sub-par compared to the SoC designs. There's just not a lot of RAM on these things; even if we do eventually push almost everything into the driver instead of firmware, there's still only a limited