next, previous

2005-04-06 Thread Henry Story
Are the next and previous links that we thought may be attachable to the feed really too controversial to get into the final atom spec? They would be really useful to archive feeds. Henry Story

FW: XML Directorate Reviewer Comments

2005-04-06 Thread Scott Hollenbeck
Here are some more -07 review comments from one member of the XML Directorate. We already know about #1. It's OK to ask questions about the reviewer's questions, just please cc him directly if you wish to start a dialog. -Scott- -Original Message- From: Andrew Newton [mailto:[EMAIL

Re: next, previous

2005-04-06 Thread Paul Hoffman
At 11:28 AM +0200 4/6/05, Henry Story wrote: Are the next and previous links that we thought may be attachable to the feed really too controversial to get into the final atom spec? It doesn't matter whether or not they are too controversial; the spec is frozen for significant technical changes.

Re: next, previous

2005-04-06 Thread Bill de hÓra
Paul Hoffman wrote: At 11:28 AM +0200 4/6/05, Henry Story wrote: Are the next and previous links that we thought may be attachable to the feed really too controversial to get into the final atom spec? It doesn't matter whether or not they are too controversial; the spec is frozen for

PaceCoConstraintsAreBad

2005-04-06 Thread Robert Sayre
http://www.intertwingly.net/wiki/pie/PaceCoConstraintsAreBad Abstract Require atom:id, atom:title, atom:updated, atom:author. That's it. Status Open Rationale The spec delivers value when it can make an element mandatory.

Re: AD Review Comments and Questions: draft-ietf-atompub-format-07

2005-04-06 Thread Mark Nottingham
On Apr 5, 2005, at 9:26 AM, Tim Bray wrote: Section 1.2: please reference draft-crocker-abnf-rfc2234bis-00.txt instead of RFC 2234 and confirm that everything that was valid before is still valid. The IESG approved this document as a Draft Standard last week. Rob/Mark? Hmm. As far as I can tell,

Re: summary of editors' action items ...so far

2005-04-06 Thread Mark Nottingham
I can do that later tonight. On Apr 6, 2005, at 5:37 PM, Tim Bray wrote: On Apr 5, 2005, at 2:53 PM, Robert Sayre wrote: Anything to add? No, I think Rob's got it. Sooner is better. Who's going to take care of submitting the MIME type registration? A volunteer would be welcome. -Tim Julian

Re: summary of editors' action items ...so far

2005-04-06 Thread Robert Sayre
Tim Bray wrote: On Apr 5, 2005, at 2:53 PM, Robert Sayre wrote: Anything to add? No, I think Rob's got it. Sooner is better. Who's going to take care of submitting the MIME type registration? A volunteer would be welcome. I'm unable to discern any consensus around the cardinality constraints

Obs on format-07

2005-04-06 Thread Bill de hÓra
Hi editors, Comments and observations on the 07 draft. ** RNC Schema - is valid rnc - the schema and the fragments appear to be consistent. - both examples validate according to the supplied schema - the xhtml fragments in 4.1.3.4 validate when embedded as specified. - in 6.4; simple and

Re: PaceCoConstraintsAreBad

2005-04-06 Thread Sam Ruby
Robert Sayre wrote: http://www.intertwingly.net/wiki/pie/PaceCoConstraintsAreBad Abstract Require atom:id, atom:title, atom:updated, atom:author. That's it. Status Open Rationale The spec delivers value when it can make an

Re: PaceCoConstraintsAreBad

2005-04-06 Thread Robert Sayre
Sam Ruby wrote: co-constraints are bad. Entries without either a summary or content or even a link to where you can find the data are worse. Does my Pace allow such a creature? Robert Sayre

Re: Obs on format-07

2005-04-06 Thread Tim Bray
On Apr 6, 2005, at 6:50 PM, Bill de hÓra wrote: Hi editors, Comments and observations on the 07 draft. Most seem OK to me, but... replace [[[ The following example assumes that the XHTML namespace has been bound to the xh prefix earlier in the document: ]]] with Note: the following example is

Re: Obs on format-07

2005-04-06 Thread Antone Roundy
On Wednesday, April 6, 2005, at 07:50 PM, Bill de hÓra wrote: Note: the following example is not well formed unless the XHTML namespace has been bound previously to the xh prefix in the document: +1 to the concept, but perhaps it could be worded a little differently, eg. 'Note: the following

Re: PaceCoConstraintsAreBad

2005-04-06 Thread Sam Ruby
Robert Sayre wrote: Sam Ruby wrote: co-constraints are bad. Entries without either a summary or content or even a link to where you can find the data are worse. Does my Pace allow such a creature? This pace dropped the requirement for an alternate link. This pace dropped the requirement for a

Re: PaceCoConstraintsAreBad

2005-04-06 Thread Robert Sayre
Sam Ruby wrote: This pace dropped the requirement for an alternate link. This pace dropped the requirement for a summary when content is not present. Yes, because the WG has *never* voiced an opinion in favor of that constraint, and we fail to meet the requirements of our charter for any

Re: Obs on format-07

2005-04-06 Thread Sam Ruby
An additional observation: neither of the examples in section 1.1 include the summary element. Suggestion: change the content in the first (minimal) example to summary. - Sam Ruby

Re: Obs on format-07

2005-04-06 Thread Robert Sayre
Sam Ruby wrote: An additional observation: neither of the examples in section 1.1 include the summary element. Suggestion: change the content in the first (minimal) example to summary. summary/? Robert Sayre

Re: PaceCoConstraintsAreBad

2005-04-06 Thread Tim Bray
On Apr 6, 2005, at 8:04 PM, Robert Sayre wrote: This pace dropped the requirement for an alternate link. This pace dropped the requirement for a summary when content is not present. Yes, because the WG has *never* voiced an opinion in favor of that constraint, You are incorrect. There was an

Re: Obs on format-07

2005-04-06 Thread Tim Bray
On Apr 6, 2005, at 8:09 PM, Robert Sayre wrote: Sam Ruby wrote: An additional observation: neither of the examples in section 1.1 include the summary element. Suggestion: change the content in the first (minimal) example to summary. summary/? No. --Tim

Re: AD Review Comments and Questions: draft-ietf-atompub-format-07

2005-04-06 Thread Mark Nottingham
Done; http://eikenes.alvestrand.no/pipermail/ietf-types/2005-April/ 000676.html Just curious; when/how does the ietf-types list switch over to @iana.org (as per draft-freed-media-type-reg)? On Apr 5, 2005, at 8:39 AM, Scott Hollenbeck wrote: The MIME media type registration template

Re: PaceCoConstraintsAreBad

2005-04-06 Thread Robert Sayre
Tim Bray wrote: On Apr 6, 2005, at 8:04 PM, Robert Sayre wrote: This pace dropped the requirement for an alternate link. This pace dropped the requirement for a summary when content is not present. Yes, because the WG has *never* voiced an opinion in favor of that constraint, You are

Re: PaceCoConstraintsAreBad

2005-04-06 Thread Antone Roundy
On Wednesday, April 6, 2005, at 08:40 PM, Sam Ruby wrote: My order of preference: PaceFeedIdOrAlternate PaceFeedIdOrSelf Current Text PaceCoConstraintsAreBad To summarize what elements would be required under each, all four require atom:title and atom:updated. Additionally: Current