Re: ACE - Atom Common Extensions Namespace

2005-10-03 Thread Thomas Broyer
Mark Nottingham wrote: My .02, FWIW, and off the top of my head; I think this is a well-intentioned effort, but at the wrong end of the process. The market (i.e., users and implementors) should have a go at sorting out at what's common/prevalent enough to merit this sort of thing; having a

Re: ACE - Atom Common Extensions Namespace

2005-10-03 Thread Thomas Broyer
Martin Duerst wrote: At 07:04 05/10/03, Walter Underwood wrote: > >--On October 2, 2005 9:35:28 AM +0200 Anne van Kesteren ><[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> >> Having a file and folder of the same name is not technically possible. >(Although >> you could emulate the effect of course with some mod_

Re: ACE - Atom Common Extensions Namespace

2005-10-03 Thread James M Snell
Antone Roundy wrote: On Oct 2, 2005, at 11:15 PM, Mark Nottingham wrote: I think this is a well-intentioned effort, but at the wrong end of the process. The market (i.e., users and implementors) should have a go at sorting out at what's common/prevalent enough to merit this sort of thin

Re: ACE - Atom Common Extensions Namespace

2005-10-03 Thread A. Pagaltzis
* Antone Roundy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2005-10-03 17:11]: > The overhead of including multiple namespace declarations > isn't going to be that great. I am coming around to the view that it doesn’t offer anything worthwhile. My own apprehension at lumping everything into a flat space, which led me

Re: ACE - Atom Common Extensions Namespace

2005-10-03 Thread Antone Roundy
On Oct 2, 2005, at 11:15 PM, Mark Nottingham wrote: I think this is a well-intentioned effort, but at the wrong end of the process. The market (i.e., users and implementors) should have a go at sorting out at what's common/prevalent enough to merit this sort of thing; having a co-ordinated

Re: ACE - Atom Common Extensions Namespace

2005-10-03 Thread Henry Story
I really like the ACE proposal, and I think the name is a good one too :-) It can't harm to have this option on the table now. No one is forced to use it. But I think it will have a few positive effects: - proposals that use it will have a cool ace namespace name - proposals that

Re: ACE - Atom Common Extensions Namespace

2005-10-03 Thread Martin Duerst
At 07:04 05/10/03, Walter Underwood wrote: > >--On October 2, 2005 9:35:28 AM +0200 Anne van Kesteren ><[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> >> Having a file and folder of the same name is not technically possible. >(Although >> you could emulate the effect of course with some mod_rewrite.) > >Namespaces

Re: ACE - Atom Common Extensions Namespace

2005-10-03 Thread Martin Duerst
At 16:45 05/10/02, James M Snell wrote: > >http://www.w3.org/2005/Atom-extensions works for me... assuming, of course, that Those-Who-Officially-Assign-Such-Things go along with it. Tim and Paul know who to contact. >The original .../ace URI was just a working thing pitched with full knowled

Re: ACE - Atom Common Extensions Namespace

2005-10-02 Thread Mark Nottingham
My .02, FWIW, and off the top of my head; I think this is a well-intentioned effort, but at the wrong end of the process. The market (i.e., users and implementors) should have a go at sorting out at what's common/prevalent enough to merit this sort of thing; having a co-ordinated namespace

Re: ACE - Atom Common Extensions Namespace

2005-10-02 Thread Justin Fletcher
On Sun, 2 Oct 2005, James M Snell wrote: Justin Fletcher wrote: Some questions spring to mind... What should implementors do when both feed history and ace namespaced elements with equivilent meanings are present - which of the two should resolve this conflict ? Same thing that implement

Re: ACE - Atom Common Extensions Namespace

2005-10-02 Thread James M Snell
Justin Fletcher wrote: Some questions spring to mind... What should implementors do when both feed history and ace namespaced elements with equivilent meanings are present - which of the two should resolve this conflict ? Same thing that implementors should do when they encounter any eleme

Re: ACE - Atom Common Extensions Namespace

2005-10-02 Thread Justin Fletcher
On Sun, 2 Oct 2005, James M Snell wrote: Bill de hÓra wrote: James M Snell wrote: As I've been going through the effort of defining a number of Atom extensions, I've consistently come back to the thought that it would be interesting to explore the creation of a "Common Extensions Namespace"

Re: ACE - Atom Common Extensions Namespace

2005-10-02 Thread James M Snell
Bill de hÓra wrote: James M Snell wrote: As I've been going through the effort of defining a number of Atom extensions, I've consistently come back to the thought that it would be interesting to explore the creation of a "Common Extensions Namespace" under which multiple standardized extens

Re: ACE - Atom Common Extensions Namespace

2005-10-02 Thread Bill de hÓra
James M Snell wrote: > As I've been going through the effort of defining a number of Atom > extensions, I've consistently come back to the thought that it would be > interesting to explore the creation of a "Common Extensions Namespace" > under which multiple standardized extensions can be grouped

Re: ACE - Atom Common Extensions Namespace

2005-10-02 Thread Walter Underwood
--On October 2, 2005 9:35:28 AM +0200 Anne van Kesteren <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Having a file and folder of the same name is not technically possible. > (Although > you could emulate the effect of course with some mod_rewrite.) Namespaces aren't files, only names. So the limitations of

Re: ACE - Atom Common Extensions Namespace

2005-10-02 Thread James M Snell
+1, introducing something like this would pretty much negate the purpose of the common namespace. Anne van Kesteren wrote: Quoting "A. Pagaltzis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: No, I mean an element name prefix. So f.ex. your indexing extension would have all its elements start with “idx-” or “x-”

Re: ACE - Atom Common Extensions Namespace

2005-10-02 Thread Anne van Kesteren
Quoting "A. Pagaltzis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: No, I mean an element name prefix. So f.ex. your indexing extension would have all its elements start with “idx-” or “x-” or something whereas the comments one would use “thr-” maybe. It is either namespaces or this. As we have namespaces, we should

Re: ACE - Atom Common Extensions Namespace

2005-10-02 Thread A. Pagaltzis
* James M Snell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2005-10-02 09:50]: > >Might it be prudent to require of extensions that they define > >a prefix for all their elements? > > If you're talking about namespace prefixes, I don't believe so > as I don't think it would be something you could reasonably > enforce.

Re: ACE - Atom Common Extensions Namespace

2005-10-02 Thread James M Snell
Eric Scheid wrote: On 2/10/05 3:54 PM, "James M Snell" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: As I've been going through the effort of defining a number of Atom extensions, I've consistently come back to the thought that it would be interesting to explore the creation of a "Common Extensions Namespace

Re: ACE - Atom Common Extensions Namespace

2005-10-02 Thread James M Snell
A. Pagaltzis wrote: Hi James, * James M Snell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2005-10-02 08:05]: 1. Introduction The Atom Common Extensions Namespace is a single XML Namespace with which standardized Atom 1.0 extensions MAY be associated. This “MAY” seems really out of place here. Not

Re: ACE - Atom Common Extensions Namespace

2005-10-02 Thread James M Snell
http://www.w3.org/2005/Atom-extensions works for me... assuming, of course, that Those-Who-Officially-Assign-Such-Things go along with it. The original .../ace URI was just a working thing pitched with full knowledge that it would likely change to something better. (I positively stink at com

Re: ACE - Atom Common Extensions Namespace

2005-10-02 Thread Anne van Kesteren
Quoting James M Snell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: The Atom Common Extensions Namespace "http://www.w3.org/2005/Atom/ace"; It should probably be something like "http://www.w3.org/2005/Atom-extensions Having a file and folder of the same name is not technically possible. (Although you could

Re: ACE - Atom Common Extensions Namespace

2005-10-02 Thread A. Pagaltzis
Hi James, * James M Snell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2005-10-02 08:05]: > 1. Introduction > >The Atom Common Extensions Namespace is a single XML >Namespace with which standardized Atom 1.0 extensions MAY be >associated. This “MAY” seems really out of place here. Not everything is a nail

Re: ACE - Atom Common Extensions Namespace

2005-10-02 Thread Eric Scheid
On 2/10/05 3:54 PM, "James M Snell" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > As I've been going through the effort of defining a number of Atom > extensions, I've consistently come back to the thought that it would be > interesting to explore the creation of a "Common Extensions Namespace" > under which mult

ACE - Atom Common Extensions Namespace

2005-10-01 Thread James M Snell
As I've been going through the effort of defining a number of Atom extensions, I've consistently come back to the thought that it would be interesting to explore the creation of a "Common Extensions Namespace" under which multiple standardized extensions can be grouped. I've written an initial