Re: Major backtracking on canonicalization

2005-07-11 Thread Karl Dubost
Le 05-07-07 à 14:12, Paul Hoffman a écrit : Without. That is explicitly the default for http://www.w3.org/TR/ 2002/REC-xml-exc-c14n-20020718/. Where does it state that explicitly? Just as with [XML-C14N] one may use the #WithComments parameter to include the serialization of XML

Re: Major backtracking on canonicalization

2005-07-11 Thread Paul Hoffman
At 2:25 PM -0400 7/11/05, Karl Dubost wrote: I read Just as with [XML-C14N] one may use the #WithComments parameter to include the serialization of XML comments. So it's a MAY, but it doesn't say that when the parameter is not here that there's a MUST NOT include them. H, that's

Re: Major backtracking on canonicalization

2005-07-07 Thread Danny Ayers
On 7/7/05, Bob Wyman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Paul Hoffman wrote: Now that I understand this better, I believe that our text should read: Thank you for catching this. You've saved us major pain! +1 -- http://dannyayers.com

Re: Major backtracking on canonicalization

2005-07-07 Thread Mark Nottingham
We should go into a little more detail. Are we specifying exclusive c14n with or without comments? My preference would be without. As I understand it, inherited xml:lang and xml:base attributes aren't signed when you're using exclusive c14n. If we ended up allowing per- entry signatures,

Re: Major backtracking on canonicalization

2005-07-07 Thread Paul Hoffman
At 10:23 AM -0400 7/7/05, Mark Nottingham wrote: Are we specifying exclusive c14n with or without comments? My preference would be without. Without. That is explicitly the default for http://www.w3.org/TR/2002/REC-xml-exc-c14n-20020718/. As I understand it, inherited xml:lang and xml:base

Re: Major backtracking on canonicalization

2005-07-07 Thread Mark Nottingham
On 07/07/2005, at 11:36 AM, Paul Hoffman wrote: At 10:23 AM -0400 7/7/05, Mark Nottingham wrote: Are we specifying exclusive c14n with or without comments? My preference would be without. Without. That is explicitly the default for http://www.w3.org/TR/ 2002/REC-xml-exc-c14n-20020718/.

Re: Major backtracking on canonicalization

2005-07-07 Thread James M Snell
Mark Nottingham wrote: On 07/07/2005, at 11:36 AM, Paul Hoffman wrote: At 10:23 AM -0400 7/7/05, Mark Nottingham wrote: Are we specifying exclusive c14n with or without comments? My preference would be without. Without. That is explicitly the default for http://www.w3.org/TR/

Re: Major backtracking on canonicalization

2005-07-07 Thread Paul Hoffman
At 1:56 PM -0400 7/7/05, Mark Nottingham wrote: On 07/07/2005, at 11:36 AM, Paul Hoffman wrote: At 10:23 AM -0400 7/7/05, Mark Nottingham wrote: Are we specifying exclusive c14n with or without comments? My preference would be without. Without. That is explicitly the default for

Re: Major backtracking on canonicalization

2005-07-07 Thread Martin Duerst
At 03:12 05/07/08, Paul Hoffman wrote: We are signing the bits only, not some interpretation of the bits. That is true for the xml:base, the xml:lang, the xml:something-else, and so on. Just a clarification that I may have made previously: XML Canonicalization (both kinds) convert to UTF-8

Re: Major backtracking on canonicalization

2005-07-06 Thread James M Snell
Paul Hoffman wrote: [[ NEW ]] Section 6.5.1 of [W3C.REC-xmldsig-core-20020212] requires support for Canonical XML. However, many people believe that Canonical XML may be deprecated in the future, and many implementers do not use it because signed XML documents enclosed in other

Re: Major backtracking on canonicalization

2005-07-06 Thread Tim Bray
On Jul 6, 2005, at 3:28 PM, Paul Hoffman wrote: Greetings again. I gravely misunderstood XML Canonicalization, and as it has been explained to me now, XML Canonicalization would be a disaster for Atom: what we want is Exclusive XML Canonicalization. Urgh, I should have caught this.

Re: Major backtracking on canonicalization

2005-07-06 Thread Bob Wyman
Paul Hoffman wrote: Now that I understand this better, I believe that our text should read: Thank you for catching this. You've saved us major pain! bob wyman