On 10 May 2005, at 04:23, Antone Roundy wrote:
On Monday, May 9, 2005, at 07:52 PM, Eric Scheid wrote:
rel=self is in no way a substitute for an identifier
Why not?
the uri can change.
Yes, I acknowledged that a little after why not?. So we have a
tradeoff--greater permanence vs. greater
On 10 May 2005, at 2:12 am, Antone Roundy wrote:
Why not?
Because:
a) It's not possible to compare an atom:id with a rel=self link. It's
perfectly possible for the URI in atom:id to be the same as the
rel=self in a different feed (unlikely, but possible). It's also
possible for the same feed
On 10 May 2005, at 2:42 pm, Antone Roundy wrote:
Both the proposed text and the text that made it in say that the
URI (or IRI) identifies or SHOULD identify the feed. The proposal
says that the feed SHOULD be available from that xRI.
OK, fair enough. But the other reasons I gave are far more
On 10/5/05 12:50 AM, Antone Roundy [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I didn't change the Pace, since such a change could conceivably change
the opinions of people who've expressed an opinion on it already. But
I would be interested to know whether people think this would be an
improvement, make it
On Monday, May 9, 2005, at 05:05 PM, Graham wrote:
On 4 Apr 2005, at 6:59 pm, Antone Roundy wrote:
And add this bullet point:
* atom:feed elements that contain no child atom:id element MUST
contain an atom:link element with a relation of self.
rel=self is in no way a substitute for an
On Tue, May 10, 2005 at 12:05:22AM +0100, Graham wrote:
rel=self is in no way a substitute for an identifier and shouldn't
Has anyone considered merging these into one (required) element? The ID
can be a URI. The URI need not be resolvable. If the URI is a URL,
it SHOULD (MUST?) point to
On 10/5/05 11:12 AM, Antone Roundy [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
rel=self is in no way a substitute for an identifier
Why not?
the uri can change.
e.
On Tue, May 10, 2005 at 11:52:55AM +1000, Eric Scheid wrote:
Why not?
the uri can change.
URIs don't change; People change them.[1]
But yah, things are never that simple. Consequently, ignore my other
e-mail in this thread. (And sorry if this is all a re-hash.)
David
[1]
On 10/5/05 11:36 AM, David Nesting [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
rel=self is in no way a substitute for an identifier and shouldn't
Has anyone considered merging these into one (required) element? The ID
can be a URI. The URI need not be resolvable. If the URI is a URL,
it SHOULD (MUST?)
+1
From prior discussion, people have indicated that they want *something*
that they can use to track feeds identity, and the consensus seemed to
be that id and/or self was more appropriate than link.
- Sam Ruby
+1
At 02:59 05/04/05, Antone Roundy wrote:
http://www.intertwingly.net/wiki/pie/PaceFeedIdOrSelf
Antone Roundy wrote:
...
Proposal
In section 4.1.1 of atompub-format-06, change this:
* atom:feed elements MUST contain at least one atom:link element
with a relation of alternate.
To this:
* atom:feed elements SHOULD contain at least one atom:link element
with a relation of alternate.
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