Re: I-D ACTION:draft-nottingham-atompub-feed-history-00.txt

2005-06-30 Thread Thomas Broyer
Antone Roundy wrote: Getting back to how to use static documents for a chain of instances, that could easily be done as follows. The following assumes that the current feed document and the archive documents will each contain 15 entries. The first 15 instances of the feed document do not

Re: More on Atom XML signatures and encryption

2005-06-30 Thread James M Snell
Paul Hoffman wrote: At 12:47 PM -0700 6/29/05, James M Snell wrote: 1. After going through a bunch of potential XML encryption use cases, it really doesn't seem to make any sense at all to use XML Encryption below the document element level. The I-D will not cover anything about

Re: I-D ACTION:draft-nottingham-atompub-feed-history-00.txt

2005-06-30 Thread Mark Nottingham
Hi James, On 29/06/2005, at 10:09 AM, James M Snell wrote: 1. This appears to be addressed at solving the same problem as Bob Wyman's RFC3229+feed proposal [http://bobwyman.pubsub.com/main/ 2004/09/using_rfc3229_w.html]. Do you have any empiracle data similar to what Bob provides @

Re: I-D ACTION:draft-nottingham-atompub-feed-history-00.txt

2005-06-30 Thread James M Snell
Mark Nottingham wrote: Hi James, On 29/06/2005, at 10:09 AM, James M Snell wrote: 1. This appears to be addressed at solving the same problem as Bob Wyman's RFC3229+feed proposal [http://bobwyman.pubsub.com/main/ 2004/09/using_rfc3229_w.html]. Do you have any empiracle data similar

Re: I-D ACTION:draft-nottingham-atompub-feed-history-00.txt

2005-06-30 Thread Mark Nottingham
On 30/06/2005, at 1:41 PM, James M Snell wrote: The value is that I would really like to see a common and consistent way of attaching behavioral semantics to the feed rather than each individual vendor / spec defining their own app and impl specific methods. It could be done without

Re: More on Atom XML signatures and encryption

2005-06-30 Thread Paul Hoffman
At 3:16 PM -0600 6/30/05, Antone Roundy wrote: On Thursday, June 30, 2005, at 12:58 PM, James M Snell wrote: 6. If an entry contains any enclosure links, the digital signature SHOULD cover the referenced resources. Enclosure links that are not covered are considered untrusted and pose a

Re: More on Atom XML signatures and encryption

2005-06-30 Thread Paul Hoffman
At 11:58 AM -0700 6/30/05, James M Snell wrote: 3. When signing complete Atom documents (atom:feed and top level atom:entry), Inclusive Canonicalization with no pre-c14n normalization is required. There seems to be many more interoperability issues with Inclusive Canonicalization than with

Re: More on Atom XML signatures and encryption

2005-06-30 Thread Bob Wyman
Paul Hoffman wrote: Same as above. Even though it is included-by-reference, the referenced content is still a part of the message. No, it isn't. The reference is part of the message. +1 The signature should only cover the bits that are actually in the element (feed or entry) that is

Re: More on Atom XML signatures and encryption

2005-06-30 Thread James M Snell
Ok, this is fine. I'll back this out of the draft. Bob Wyman wrote: Paul Hoffman wrote: Same as above. Even though it is included-by-reference, the referenced content is still a part of the message. No, it isn't. The reference is part of the message. +1 The signature should only