Re: RNG validators capable of fully using the Atom schema?

2005-07-12 Thread Bjoern Hoehrmann
* Henri Sivonen wrote: I'm wondering which validator was used for testing the Atom RNG+Schematron schema. Which validators support Compact Syntax with embedded Schematron? I am particularly interested in Java solutions. http://www.topologi.com/products/validator/ is said to support it. --

Re: RNG validators capable of fully using the Atom schema?

2005-07-12 Thread Dave Pawson
On Tue, 2005-07-12 at 10:24 +0200, Bjoern Hoehrmann wrote: * Henri Sivonen wrote: I'm wondering which validator was used for testing the Atom RNG+Schematron schema. Which validators support Compact Syntax with embedded Schematron? I am particularly interested in Java solutions.

Re: RNG validators capable of fully using the Atom schema?

2005-07-12 Thread Norman Walsh
/ Henri Sivonen [EMAIL PROTECTED] was heard to say: | I'm wondering which validator was used for testing the Atom | RNG+Schematron schema. Which validators support Compact Syntax with | embedded Schematron? I am particularly interested in Java solutions. I use Kohsuke's MSV. (msv.dev.java.net)

Re: RNG validators capable of fully using the Atom schema?

2005-07-12 Thread Dave Pawson
On Tue, 2005-07-12 at 12:16 -0400, Norman Walsh wrote: / Henri Sivonen [EMAIL PROTECTED] was heard to say: | I'm wondering which validator was used for testing the Atom | RNG+Schematron schema. Which validators support Compact Syntax with | embedded Schematron? I am particularly interested in

Re: More while we're waiting discussion

2005-07-12 Thread A. Pagaltzis
* James M Snell [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2005-07-12 02:00]: The second extension is a comments link type that allows an entry to be associated with a separate feed containing comments. […] feed entry link rel=comments href=http://example.com/commentsfeed.xml; / /entry

Re: More while we're waiting discussion

2005-07-12 Thread Antone Roundy
On Tuesday, July 12, 2005, at 12:42 PM, A. Pagaltzis wrote: * James M Snell [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2005-07-12 02:00]: The second extension is a comments link type that allows an entry to be associated with a separate feed containing comments. […] feed entry link rel=comments

Re: Old application/atom+xml issues

2005-07-12 Thread A. Pagaltzis
* Bill de hÓra [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2005-07-11 17:55]: [[[ Interoperability considerations: Some existing agents and feeds that support the Atom 0.3 specification make use of this media type despite Atom 0.3 not being compatible with Atom 1.0. Such feeds SHOULD be considered invalid Atom 1.0.

Re: More while we're waiting discussion

2005-07-12 Thread James M Snell
Great thoughts... exactly the kind of feedback I was looking for. What you describe is actually the way we currently integrate comments into feeds in the internal IBM blogging infrastructure: Entries and Comments are integrated into a single feed. Currently there is no way of associating

Re: More while we're waiting discussion

2005-07-12 Thread A. Pagaltzis
* Antone Roundy [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2005-07-12 21:25]: If you're already creating an extension link type, why not throw in an additional attribute too to help with that: feed xmlns:comments=http://example.org/commentfeed; entry link rel=comments

Re: More while we're waiting discussion

2005-07-12 Thread A. Pagaltzis
* James M Snell [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2005-07-12 21:55]: What you describe is actually the way we currently integrate comments into feeds in the internal IBM blogging infrastructure: Entries and Comments are integrated into a single feed. Great to know that there’s precedent for this as well

Re: More while we're waiting discussion

2005-07-12 Thread James M Snell
Ok, distilled from this conversation... 1. Comments can either be included directly within the feed or in a separate feed. 2. Comment entries are distinguished by a link @rel=in-reply-to @href={$original-entry/atom:id} 3. Comment feeds may be indicated using a link @rel=comments

Re: More while we're waiting discussion

2005-07-12 Thread Thomas Broyer
James M Snell wrote: Ok, distilled from this conversation... 1. Comments can either be included directly within the feed or in a separate feed. 2. Comment entries are distinguished by a link @rel=in-reply-to @href={$original-entry/atom:id} As an atom:id is an identifier that might

Re: More while we're waiting discussion

2005-07-12 Thread Roger B.
James: Given that this kind of thing is pretty near-n-dear to me, I'm quite interested. A couple observations and/or thoughts: (1) I like this much, much better than the proposed ThreadsML mess of years past. Simple is good. (2) Implementation might be a hard sell, so don't get your hopes too

Re: More while we're waiting discussion

2005-07-12 Thread A. Pagaltzis
* James M Snell [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2005-07-12 23:20]: 1. Comments can either be included directly within the feed or in a separate feed. 2. Comment entries are distinguished by a link @rel=in-reply-to @href={$original-entry/atom:id} 3. Comment feeds may be indicated using a link

Re: More while we're waiting discussion

2005-07-12 Thread James M Snell
A. Pagaltzis wrote: Hmm. That’s a nice thought that hadn’t occured to me. Thinking about it, that would offer a way to solve a lot of the mess that currently plagues the Trackback/Pingback mechanisms. You could just ping the target weblog with a pointer to the feed which contains the entry you

Re: More while we're waiting discussion

2005-07-12 Thread James M Snell
Roger B. wrote: James: Given that this kind of thing is pretty near-n-dear to me, I'm quite interested. A couple observations and/or thoughts: (1) I like this much, much better than the proposed ThreadsML mess of years past. Simple is good. Absolutely. (2) Implementation might be a

Re: More while we're waiting discussion

2005-07-12 Thread Antone Roundy
On Tuesday, July 12, 2005, at 06:21 PM, A. Pagaltzis wrote: * Thomas Broyer [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2005-07-13 00:00]: As an atom:id is an identifier that might (should?) not be dereferenceable, atom:link is not a good choice. There is nothing in the spec that forbids atom:link That should be

Re: More while we're waiting discussion

2005-07-12 Thread James M Snell
A. Pagaltzis wrote: @rel=related-feed ??? A bit more specific than related, the nature of the relation is left unspecified. User agents can choose to handle in whatever way they wish. That doesn’t seem to confer more meaning than you can already express by [EMAIL PROTECTED]'related'