Re: Atom extensibility

2005-01-07 Thread Lance Lavandowska
On Fri, 7 Jan 2005 19:45:43 +0100, Danny Ayers [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Given Henry's proposal, the person that uses RSS 2.0 today would notice no additional complexity. The only people that would need to know a little about RDF would be those that wish to develop extensions. All they would

Re: The Atom Format end-game

2005-01-07 Thread Paul Hoffman / IMC
At 6:31 PM +1100 1/7/05, Eric Scheid wrote: Aside from focusing on the publishing protocol, which is well due, what else happens after we finalise the format spec? Specifically, what are the IETF hoops that need to be jumped through, and what periods of diligence/comment are mandated? Or will the

Re: Posted PaceEnclosuresAndPix

2005-01-07 Thread Roger B.
In addition to being cumbersome, there is no good way to show that the photos all go together. Ray: There are several, IMO. (1) Put them all in the same rss:category. (2) Use ENT and assign them all at least one common topic. (3) Put them in a distict feed. At least one of those is fairly

Re: Enclosure count

2005-01-07 Thread David Jacobs
RSS 2.0 DOES have a one enclosure per entry restriction, so we're breaking RSS2 compatibility. Why wouldn't multiple enclosures be multiple posts?

Re: RSS extensibility

2005-01-07 Thread Antone Roundy
On Friday, January 7, 2005, at 01:32 PM, Danny Ayers wrote: If I propose an extension, e.g. embargoDate, and I want anyone to use it, then I'm going to have to specify how it works. E.g. prism:embargoDate can appear as a child of atom:entry and it gives the embargo date for the entry... ...

Re: Enclosure count

2005-01-07 Thread Antone Roundy
On Friday, January 7, 2005, at 01:59 PM, David Jacobs wrote: RSS 2.0 DOES have a one enclosure per entry restriction, so we're breaking RSS2 compatibility. Why wouldn't multiple enclosures be multiple posts? Multiple enclosures per entry would make it impossible to translate some Atom feeds to

Atom extensibility, RDF, and GRDDL

2005-01-07 Thread Sam Ruby
I'm not sure why this discussion has popped up again, but it seems to me that there will always be people who only can grasp the bits and bytes that actually go across the wire, and there will be several sets of people who can only grasp the higher level abstractions that they see through the

Re: Atom extensibility

2005-01-07 Thread David Powell
I'd say that the most useful basic features of RDF are: 1) Property names are namespaced for extensibility. 2) Important entities can be assigned global identifiers so that they can be referred to externally. 3) Statements are properties of an object rather than being simple name/value

Re: RSS extensibility

2005-01-07 Thread David Powell
Friday, January 7, 2005, 9:28:33 PM, you wrote: Another example might be a property such as ex:rating, intended to provide slashdot-style ratings specific to the community of readers of that feed. If those entries are republished, then the original ratings shouldn't be republished in the

Re: RSS extensibility

2005-01-07 Thread Danny Ayers
On Fri, 7 Jan 2005 14:21:49 -0700, Antone Roundy [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Could you give an example of something useful that a real world application would be enabled to do? Off the top of my head, how about categorizing entries by their properties. But being able to mix extensions in a

Re: Atom extensibility, RDF, and GRDDL

2005-01-07 Thread Robert Sayre
Sam Ruby wrote: I'm not sure why this discussion has popped up again... In the case of RDF, there exists a standard means to associate a document with a mapping. This standard is called GRDDL. [1] Meanwhile, it would not be harmful to mention this one element or attribute (anybody have a

Re: RSS extensibility

2005-01-07 Thread Roger B.
Would you be satisfied with a paragraph that says that those who extend Atom may do so by putting in namespaced elements, and that such elements, when the information they contain is relevant to an entry, SHOULD appear as a child of atom:entry? Tim: +1, for the sake of compromise if nothing

Re: Atom extensibility

2005-01-07 Thread Tim Bray
On Jan 7, 2005, at 2:38 PM, David Powell wrote: I think if we ensure that these properties apply to the Atom model, then it will be beneficial to Atom, and will make any mapping between Atom and RDF a lot simpler. Please propose specific edits to current drafts for the WG's consideration. -Tim

Re: Atom extensibility

2005-01-07 Thread Antone Roundy
Let me see if I can correctly restate the following in language I'm familiar with--let me know whether I've got this right or not: On Friday, January 7, 2005, at 03:38 PM, David Powell wrote: I'd say that the most useful basic features of RDF are: 1) Property names are namespaced for