Re: PaceTextShouldBeProvided vs PaceOptionalSummary

2005-05-07 Thread Roger B.
Yes. If that SHOULD goes through, it becomes OK to write an Atom Processor that catches fire when summary and content are both absent. Robert: Nothing about either pace will make it not OK to drop content- and summary-free entries on the floor, or come to a full stop when they're encountered.

Re: PaceTextShouldBeProvided vs PaceOptionalSummary

2005-05-06 Thread Bill de hÓra
Tim Bray wrote: Speaking not as the chair but as an interested WG member, I read them about eight times and I do not understand why they are in conflict. Someone please explain, as simply as possible, what the problem is, because I just don't get it. On the face of it, I am inclined to be +1

Re: PaceTextShouldBeProvided vs PaceOptionalSummary

2005-05-06 Thread Sam Ruby
Bill de hÓra wrote: 3. It's the kind of spec text we have rejected in the past as impletation specific and/or best current practice guidance: those that follow these suggestions will find that their feeds are useful to a wider audience than they would be otherwise. Um, that text is not part of

Re: PaceTextShouldBeProvided vs PaceOptionalSummary

2005-05-05 Thread Tim Bray
On May 5, 2005, at 11:02 AM, Robert Sayre wrote: I don't see a conflict there. What's wrong with accepting two similar paces because one corrects the flaws in the other? Graham, that's just not true. It wasn't called PaceSummariesAreNotRequired, was it? It materially changes the only action

Re: PaceTextShouldBeProvided vs PaceOptionalSummary

2005-05-05 Thread Tim Bray
On May 5, 2005, at 3:52 PM, Robert Sayre wrote: Everything in the proposal section is fine with me, as well. It's that Notes section that's the problem. Note: I totally fail to understand the Notes bit at the end of PaceTextShouldBeProvided. It is underspecified to the extent that I can't figure

Re: PaceTextShouldBeProvided vs PaceOptionalSummary

2005-05-05 Thread Robert Sayre
On 5/5/05, Tim Bray [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: No it doesn't, it says something about inserting the phrase ...is either not present or... which, by the way, I don't understand. Are we looking at the same document? Ah, it's been updated since I last looked. The proposed text for 4.1.2 didn't

Re: PaceTextShouldBeProvided vs PaceOptionalSummary

2005-05-05 Thread Robert Sayre
On 5/5/05, Tim Bray [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Speaking not as the chair but as an interested WG member, I read them about eight times and I do not understand why they are in conflict. Someone please explain, as simply as possible, what the problem is, because I just don't get it. On the

Re: PaceTextShouldBeProvided vs PaceOptionalSummary

2005-05-05 Thread Graham
On 6 May 2005, at 4:26 am, Robert Sayre wrote: PaceTextShouldBeProvided: SHOULD have a summary PaceOptionalSummary: MAY have a summary No, Robert: Current situation: MUST have a summary PaceOptionalSummary: No explicit opinion PaceTextShouldBeProvided: SHOULD have a summary

Re: PaceTextShouldBeProvided vs PaceOptionalSummary

2005-05-05 Thread Robert Sayre
On 5/5/05, Graham [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: PaceOptionalSummary simply says remove the MUST, it doesn't say what it should be replaced with. What part of OPTIONAL don't you understand? Robert Sayre