Re: new draft? (was: invention)

2006-01-21 Thread Eric Scheid

On 22/1/06 7:42 AM, "Thomas Broyer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> No more than using the @rel value (is a feed an alternate for a
> single-entry HTML page?).

Depends on what you mean by "feed". Do you mean a resource whose
representation is an Atom Feed Document, or do you mean a resource which
provides a stream of entries (in an Atom Feed Document).

The latter is the kind of thing that people want to subscribe to, but is
only a subset of the former. The former might include advertising web
services [1]

e.

[1] http://www-128.ibm.com/developerworks/webservices/library/ws-atomwas/ 



Re: new draft? (was: invention)

2006-01-21 Thread Robert Sayre

On 1/21/06, Thomas Broyer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>
> So let's change the application/atom+xml media type to add parameters to it

Why? There's no code that needs it. More code, less email.

--

Robert Sayre

"I would have written a shorter letter, but I did not have the time."



Re: new draft? (was: invention)

2006-01-21 Thread Thomas Broyer

2006/1/21, Anne van Kesteren <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> Quoting Thomas Broyer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> > Why not use the "media" attribute?
>
> Because that would be "tag abuse".

No more than using the @rel value (is a feed an alternate for a
single-entry HTML page?).

So let's change the application/atom+xml media type to add parameters to it:
application/atom+xml;kind=feed
application/atom+xml;kind=entry
application/atom+xml;kind=entry;type=xhtml,audio/mp3

--
Thomas Broyer



Re: new draft? (was: invention)

2006-01-21 Thread Anne van Kesteren


Quoting Thomas Broyer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:

Why not use the "media" attribute?


Because that would be "tag abuse".


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Anne van Kesteren




Re: new draft? (was: invention)

2006-01-21 Thread Thomas Broyer

2006/1/21, Robert Sayre <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
>
> On 1/19/06, Robert Sayre <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> > But, I could be in the minority. Which WG members think we should work
> > on exciting new HTML link relations?
> >
>
> Wow. Nobody.

I really think autodiscovery shouldn't use the link relation at all:

Welcome to my blog


My dummy entry





Why not use the "media" attribute?


If you have feeds dedicated to some media (mainly screen –full content
or video enclosures–, handheld –summary-only or title-only, or
low-quality enclosures– or aural –audio-only enclosures–), add that
media in the comma-separated list:



I'm not sure how the comma-separated values should be interpreted in
HTML (subscribe OR aural, or subscribe AND aural?), it might be better
to replace the previous list values with a single "parameterized"
value (e.g. "subscribe audio", "subscribe video", "subscribe text",
"subscribe audio video", etc.)

--
Thomas Broyer



Re: new draft? (was: invention)

2006-01-21 Thread Eric Scheid

On 22/1/06 3:27 AM, "Robert Sayre" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

>> But, I could be in the minority. Which WG members think we should work
>> on exciting new HTML link relations?
>> 
> 
> Wow. Nobody.
> 
> Phil, could we get a new rev of the Autodiscovery I-D?

nobody likes a strawman.

e.



new draft? (was: invention)

2006-01-21 Thread Robert Sayre

On 1/19/06, Robert Sayre <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> But, I could be in the minority. Which WG members think we should work
> on exciting new HTML link relations?
>

Wow. Nobody.

Phil, could we get a new rev of the Autodiscovery I-D?

--

Robert Sayre

"I would have written a shorter letter, but I did not have the time."