e chss's int?
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Are there methods to define envless function typedef includes proof argument?
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which is a Japanese local meeting. But it may be useful, if you can
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vtypedef struct_foo_impl = $extype_struct"struct foo" of {
a = int,
p = ptr
}
```
And also, we can't use at-view in struct define? I should use cPtr0() in struct?
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val () = println! !(pfoo->p) // print 10
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I can also use same style on primitive type.
https://github.com/jats-ug/practice-ats/commit/8c9cb65deed66b814979420e4e06642bf0523e68#diff-d94ce6567e10dc9f5d7c205dc66c3e76R34
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However, following code is using flat record with well-typed...
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var buz: @{ a = int, b = ptr }
val () = buz.a := 1
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> In this case, buz is a 'var' (instead of a 'val'). A 'var' is always
> a left-value.
Thanks. You mean $extval return 'val'.
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> On Sat, Aug 20, 2016 at 1:58 PM, gmhwxi <gmh...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> Recursion in views cannot be handled this way. You need to define
>> dataviews for this.
>
> Is it me
Hi Hongwei,
How about adding short and ushort primitive types into ATS prelude?
I find needing the primitive types, while seeking C header files in
/usr/include.
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> I see. There is a bit of subtlety here.
>
> If you write 'p0.x := y0', then the type of 'p0' is required to be non
> linear.
Uuu-n. Complex.
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note: in definition of macro 'ATStmpdec'
#define ATStmpdec(tmp, hit) hit tmp
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Makefile:7: recipe for target 'a.out' failed
make: *** [a.out] Error 1
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... Why???
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I think the generated C code casts it into `void`. Why not `void *`?
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Sorry for my mis-understanding. But how to use it on pure ATS
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means the tuple at the address.
However my pptr_v's cons has following at-view:
(ptr l_nxt) @ l
It means the pointer at the address. Not tuple.
They are having same structure at the address?
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I think I understand it. However, I can't understand why we can't use
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, l0:addr, l1:addr, l2:addr) =
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We can't use induction? Why not terminate it?
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If dereference pointer only {l:agz} like `my_deref`, we can wrap
`may_ret_null` function easily.
Or I should use some `opt` things for this situation? It's as easy as
the `my_deref`?
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of the function declaration
B. top of `__selector` argument declaration
C. top of `__cmp` argument declaration
Is this declaration suitable for the scandir(3) in C? Or does it have
some bad things? As example, B's `l1` scope is not only for
`__selector` argument declaration?
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If so, why not choose implicit proving (like `my_deref` function) over
dereference at-view?
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> By the way, the "aPtr1 style" code is more large than "at-view style" code:
>
> $ wc -l mutual_struct{2,3}/main.dats
> 44 mutual_struct2/main.dats
> 53 mutual_struct3/main.
tle.
At first stage, the ATS code includes some structs from C code.
At second state, should I re-write the struct as ATS record? If
re-write, I'll get more safe design in ATS code? Or which choose
struct/record is not important thing?
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limiting for real programming...
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That method can shape large
application such like the ATS compiler?
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ut c2ats is still yet too limited...
Yes. I can't say it's useful for real programming today.
If you have more good idea for c2ats, please send me your issue.
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>
> https://github.com/githwxi/ATS-Postiats-test/blob/master/contrib/hwxi/TEST30/struct.dats
Thanks a lot.
Now, I'm writing the other solution...
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I have not yet my feeling to decide using either ATS or C language in
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> Now, I'm writing the other solution...
My answer is following:
https://github.com/jats-ug/practice-ats/blob/334c41e981a67153d92fcca25130533c86277619/mutual_struct2/gen.sats
https://github.co
!bar@l2 | p: ptr(l1)): void = {
val () = println! ("foo.x = ", p->x)
val () = println! ("bar.x = ", p->p->x)
}
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Is it correct?
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catch errors caused by NULL pointer.
Truly, we have no method to avoid both miss cast and NULL pointer???
Or we can avoid them, if drop mutual struct/record and use
singly-pointer-linked struct/record?
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Is it impossible to be supported by ATS compiler?
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:13: note: in expansion of macro ‘ATSderef’
ATSINSstore(ATSderef(arg0, atsvoid_t0ype), tmp4__1) ;
^~~~
main_dats.c:1114:1: error: invalid use of void expression
ATSINSstore(ATSderef(arg0, atsvoid_t0ype), tmp4__1) ;
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How to translate them into ATS code without any exception,
automatically? Some state machine is needed for it?
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id generated code is useful for manually proving?"
And also `goto` statement issue is big problem...
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I think I can try this after issue of splitting C headers into treed sats files.
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then get a real language that compiles to c/++
> on top of it, to somehow get a repl?
> then since it is c/++ it is portable to android, and then also
> becomes faster for releases because then it gets compiled.
I think it's a good idea.
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> On Fri, Oct 21, 2016 at 2:47 AM, Raoul Duke <rao...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> http://goo.gl/qSf6hF
>
> Good news for me!
https://github.com/FStarLang/kremlin/blob/master/test/ML16.fst
This examp
JavaScript" after
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> yes... but not a big issue though. hope we could have more people interested
> in ATS and ask questions there.
Ah, so you are right. I should be more positive. :)
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> https://spearman.github.io/
Your page is so great work for me!
I think I found it at the start point learning ATS language!
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https://www.slideshare.net/master_q/ats2-updates-2017/5
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The seL4's approach may be useful for you.
https://ts.data61.csiro.au/publications/nicta_full_text/9118.pdf
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Could you write this on
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Ah...
```
$ git grep infix0 | cat
docgen/SYNTAX/fixity.txt:#infix0 foo2 bar2
docgen/SYNTAX/fixity.txt:#infix0 baz of 71
prelude/fixity.sats:#infix0 < <= > >= of 40
prelude/fixity.sats:#infix0 = != == !== of 30
prelude/fixity.sats:#infix0 := of 0 // HX: assign
prelude/fixity.sats:#infix0 :=: of 0
associativity
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> How about introduce your infix syntax such like Haskell?
>
> "Infix Functions In Haskell"
> https://wuciawe.github.io/functional%20programming/haskell/2016/07/03/infix-functions-in-haskell.html
>
> The
I have question: what is different on following?:
* #infix0
* #infixl
* #infixr
How about introduce your infix syntax such like Haskell?
"Infix Functions In Haskell"
https://wuciawe.github.io/functional%20programming/haskell/2016/07/03/infix-functions-in-haskell.html
The infix syntax in
As a translator English to Japanese, I would like to choose `po4a` tool.
https://po4a.org/index.php.en
It can maintain translations on gettext, and be easy to track original update.
Could you choose your document format from followings which are supported
by po4a:
* manpages
* POD
* XML
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> I hope
> to be able to export theorems needed by a ATS program to external
> theorem-provers.
> I think a particular focus should be on automated theorem-proving.
Do you use Z3 such like F*?
https://www.fstar-lang.org/
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I just say:
"We need some ecosystem on ATS3 core, because someone can shape:
* Coq's tactic
* Package manager such like atspkg
* Assembler backend
* Debug support with DWARF
* Cross compil
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> Proofs are part of dynamics. As far syntax design is concerned, writing a
> proof
> is pretty much like writing a program.
OK. I should re-draw my big picture:
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Why not introduce Proof stuff at `overview.txt `?
I believe ATS3 stands on:
* Dynamics
* Proofs
* Statics
http://cs.likai.org/ats/ml-programmers-guide-to-ats
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If `ATS-Xanadu/docgen/SYNTAX` is a specification document, not a
tutorial, we do not need to choose any format such like markdown, TeX,
SGML, XML, HTML, etc...
Let's choose your style as plain text such like RFC:
https://www.rfc-editor.org/in-notes/rfc-index.txt
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I slightly learn Prolog for the design of ATS3.
My opinion is following:
## Variable is useful
```
$ cat family.pl
father(naoyuki, hyogo).
father(saburo, naoyuki).
father(saburo, shinji).
father(yoshihisa, hisako).
mother(hisako, hyogo).
mother(yoko, naoyuki).
mother(yoko, shinji).
there are some unsolved constraints: please
inspect the above reported error message(s) for information.
exit(ATS): uncaught exception:
_2home_2kiwamu_2src_2ATS_2dPostiats_2src_2pats_error_2esats__FatalErrorExn(1025)
make: *** [Makefile:75: utf8.dats.c] Error 1
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ned the sort [S2RTerr()].
patsopt(TRANS2): there are [8] errors in total.
exit(ATS): uncaught exception:
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Where and what should I inject your annotation?
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styles are equivalent.
Are there some difference on type inference? > Hongwei
I love A style, but I should choose B if it has better inference.
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I should choose `let in` style.
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nt3.dats: end // end of [S3Ebmul]
src/pats_constraint3.dats:| S3Ebmul (x11, x12) => (
src/pats_constraint3.dats: | S3Ebmul (x21, x22) =>
src/pats_constraint3.dats: ) (* end of [S3Ebmul] *)
```
Above result is hard to understand following:
* relationship between `&&` and `bmul`
u need;
> instead, you can always declare
> it on your own.
I think above comment doesn't make sense...
I would like to use dependent types, which is well defined at prelude
or base library.
Because it makes manner of code, which is more human readable.
Why do I declare my own opera
s failed: there are some unsolved constraints: please
inspect the above reported error message(s) for information.
exit(ATS): uncaught exception:
_2home_2kiwamu_2src_2ATS_2dPostiats_2src_2pats_error_2esats__FatalErrorExn(1025)
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Also I think following are good parts:
A. Symbolic execution such like https://github.com/verifast/verifast IDE,
because we can watch execution sequence on the IDE.
See the following Steps pane on figure 1 at page 4.
https://people.cs.kuleuven.be/~bart.jacobs/verifast/tutorial.pdf
B.
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> A. Symbolic execution such like https://github.com/verifast/verifast IDE,
>because we can watch execution sequence on the IDE.
>See the following Steps pane on figure 1 at page 4.
>https://people.cs.kuleuven.be/
up to debug it.
* The hardware bugs are not caused by ATS language, and stand
on hardware registers.
* ATS2 has less power to debug such hardware bugs, because
the ELF binary has DWARF of C language, not ATS.
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> I hope that I can structure the ATS3 compiler in such a way that you
> should be to add DWALF support on your own.
Yes.
I believe such DWARF support is only hoped by me.
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> I'll try to write some patch to inject such `#
Ah! It's useful!!!
```
(gdb) i b
Num Type Disp Enb AddressWhat
1 breakpoint keep y
1.1 y 0x15ee in
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at
Dear all,
I added a Wiki page to explain this post:
https://github.com/githwxi/ATS-Postiats/wiki/GDB
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level=1)
global: rbtree_insert$2$5(level=1)
global: rbtree_insert$2$6(level=1)
global: rbtree_insert$2$7(level=1)
global: rbtree_insert$2$8(level=1)
global: rbtree_insert$2$9(level=1)
```
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Dear Hongwei,
On Tue, May 28, 2019 at 2:15 PM Kiwamu Okabe wrote:
> Following means that there are 20 `#line` directives, but gdb only
> found 10 of them.
> Do you know how to find all of the multiple breakpoints?
Sorry. I miss understood it.
There are 20 `#line`s, but every insta
On Wed, May 29, 2019 at 3:53 PM Richard wrote:
> Assert that the value is true.
>
> For the definition of tt, see
> https://github.com/githwxi/ATS-Temptory/blob/master/libats/basics_pre.sats#L66
Thanks. I think I should learn basic library to understand ATS-Temptory, again.
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Dear all.
On Sat, Mar 7, 2015 at 6:44 PM Kiwamu Okabe wrote:
> Someone is trying to debug ATS code using DWARF?
Fortunately, I found the following simple method, while learning Vala language:
https://gist.github.com/master-q/b8167531a5a0679b9a830ed12a75619f
```
$ gcc -g -I /home/kiwamu/
Dear Hongwei,
On Thu, Aug 8, 2019 at 10:24 PM gmhwxi wrote:
> We can introduce an abstrace linear VIEW IO:
I have a just question.
"Why do we separate the IO functions from the pure function?"
Unfortunately, I have not felt that such separation is useful...
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ll,can} optionally introduce effect.
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ite my code without any IO?
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On Sat, Aug 10, 2019 at 10:17 AM Hongwei Xi wrote:
> Yes, you should be able to program in the same way as you do now.
Thanks. It's good news to port my idiomaticca project to ATS3.
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such as:
* Support break, continue, and goto. (Should use some kind of CFG?)
* Support pointers using at-view.
* Support C headers using .sats files.
* Use val instead of var.
* Simplify ATS code. Example: reduce multiple let.
* Support ATS3.
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our issues with best-effort.
https://github.com/metasepi/idiomaticca/issues
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/SATS/dynexp3.sats] is not available for
staloading.
patsopt(TRANS1): there are [10] errors in total.
exit(ATS): uncaught exception:
_2home_2kiwamu_2src_2ATS_2dPostiats_2src_2pats_error_2esats__FatalErrorExn(1025)
make: *** [Makefile:72: BUILD/intrep0_sats.c] Error 1
rm BUILD/intrep0_sats.c
```
Best r
ared_unref` not the same?
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entioned by you.
But I think I define it but don't use it, because the function ends
with `ignoret`.
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(a:vt@ype) = [l:addr] (a@l | ptr l)
```
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commit/366bb929794285c977339c328daa31c278a28645
I don't know the following technique.
```
var opts: ip6_pktopts with opts_pf
// --snip--
val () = assertloc(x = addr@opts)
```
Thank you a lot, Dambaev!
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Dear Hongwei,
On Sun, Aug 30, 2020 at 11:04 PM gmhwxi wrote:
> You could also do it by using a type-annotation:
--snip--
> prval () = view@opts := (pf_opts: (ip6_pktopts?)@opts)
Thank you. It's a new usage for me.
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assertloc, $showtype and GDB.
I'm so happy if you write a show article about $showtype on the Wiki.
Because I often forget the usage.
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