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Hmmm, visualstudio. Im not getting you now. This doesnt make any sense. It is very difficult and very uncommon for someone to develop a compiler in another language other than C/C++. There is a way to avoid memory leaks and other memory-related issues, however! Check
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Actually, if I developed a compiler, Id not use C++. My understanding is that he wants to use C++ for the engine, but maybe Im misunderstanding something. Still, nothing says you cant develop the compiler in another language or, as is actually very common
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ok!, thanks ethin, ill release it as a C++ librarymy goal is to avoid memory leeks and youve helped me a loti have dlib c++ library and ive forgot about that!thanks
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Yes, I read that, he wants to avoid C++, but I continue to think that he thought to C++ without knowing that. Good luck!
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i want to avoid use of C++ because of pointers and memory leeksbecause of that ive started this topic to develop an executable compiler for my enginefirstly, executables are not something that you are thinkingin the start, they have a headervariables and simbles most
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Its probably just the template exe for redistribution. Kinda guessing in the dark, but given the name and that youre reorting that its an exe file internally, this doesnt seem too far-fetched. Copy the exe to whatever is distributed or append the bytecode or whatever
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im saying this, but dont know how can i create executables like thisim thinking about main entrypoint, and functions and classes that i want to add to this applicationJIT compiler is just compiles the script code into bytecode, but it doesnt add executable header, main
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All right look. This is the absolute last time Im going to lay this out.1. Get an interpreter tat someone else has written. Lua, Angelscript, whatever. It doesnt matter. otice that I dont care if its a JIT or not-the important part is that you didnt write it.2. Write
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All right look. This is the absolute last time Im going to lay this out.1. Get an interpreter tat someone else has written. Lua, Angelscript, whatever. It doesnt matter. otice that I dont care if its a JIT or not-the important part is that you didnt write it.2. Write
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Im pretty sure you can find open source solutions that have already done this entire process as well. I honestly dont really think its a language issue, since he seems to understand terminology. repeatedly stating that as the issue and forcing compliance really isnt
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i have to mention i can run the script!, but i want to create executables from it!what framework can i use that adds executable header, resolve simbles, etcim not saying to do my project, the problem is you are thinking rong, you say write a script witch your
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Damn it, visualstudio! This is getting wayy out of hand! Weve told you again and again that you cannot create executables from simple scripts yet! Your not experienced enough to do that! Unless, of course, you are able to turn
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Well, actually, theres two questions going on here. I have covered the second one, but Ill repeat it one more time.Writing a compiler? You dont have the experience for doing that quickly. None of us really do.But two points:First, there is no functional advantage
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I think he wants to make some wrappers for C++, for instance a “sound” class to play sounds, like that found in BGT. Also other functions and classes, easier to use. He wants to have an editor, or something like this where users to write code using his classes
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No one has said anything about C++. In fact, this entire thread has been about how to *not* be C++. Im not sure where this particular conceptual leap came from. I would not write an audiogame in C++ under most circumstances: there is nothing there that I cant get
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firstly, english is not my first languagemy first language is persionsecondly, witch framework do you recommend for compiler?or maybe, ill release it as a C++ librarybut what is the exec.bin in bgts main directory?
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OK, then, visualstudio, Ill speak in your native language, then, since you dont seam to understand what were trying to tell you.آیا یک کامپایلر را ندارد. در عوض، یک مترجم با استفاده از جاوا با ابزار دیگر برای تشخیص زبان (ANTLR.) هنگامی که شما کشف کردن مکانیک از ANTLR
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A Google translation might not be entirely accurate.
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ok, but it didnt translate it correctlyi know what you are mentioning in your posts, but ive asked about exec.bin in bgts main directorydont need to translate everything for me
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Exec.bin is an angelscript necessity. BGT requires it to operate properly.
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ok, but some applications that uses AngelScript isnt using this file!open it with a text editor, and youll see that it starts with mz witch is the start of exe files!
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I personally wouldnt say that. If you have a sincere need to use llvm and you have to knowledge to do so, then go ahead use it. Were not forcing you to use a particular piece of software here, were just giving recommendations despite any appearances given. Llvm has its
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thanks, i want recommendation!but the question is, how to create an interpretor?ive asked somewhere, they said to you need to compile your functions and classes with a C++ compiler to binary, and then link it with script bytecode!, but how to do that!, what about main
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Might I suggest making a game first?Theres two problems here.The first is the language barrier: I cant tell if you dont know whats going on because Im not sure if Im understanding your posts or if youre understanding mine. If English isnt your first language, Id
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Visualstudio, are you not understanding us, or something? Because right now your making this discussion a very difficult one. Do we have to speak in your native to understand? r do we need to close this topic. Im going to give you an answer that you most certainly
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ok!, i dont use it!, ill make an interproter for that!, understanded
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ok!, i dont use it!, ill make an interpreter for that!, understanded
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i havent say give code to me!why you are thinking like that?ive started a discussion and you are not required to reply!, isnt it?
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instead of using nasm, we can use inline assembly in C++but, how to create an interpretor for that?im learning LLVM!if i want to use lua, i can use LLVM_lua for thisbut i havent found anything for AngelScripti know assembly and thats not have so much problems, but when
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You are in a different universe. Ive said what should be said, and Ive done it several different ways.is there a language barrier here? The things youre saying you want to use are so far from the project that you want to do that I honestly fail to understand. Inline
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so, if LLVM isnt good, what do you recommend?how to make an interpreter?this thread is started, for just 1 reason that ive mentioned
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I have already told you. Over and over. Im not repeating myself again. You use someone elses, you dont make one. Please see the proceeding posts wherein I detailed your options completely, including advantages and disadvantages. Go find a language you like. Read
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ok, if i want to embed a scripting language, how to create an executable compiler for that?working with LLVM requires you to have knowledge with processors and some other things that no need to talk aboutbut for making a compiler, what do you recommend?
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@visualstudio, I do not recommend you make a compiler at all. For now, just have an interpreter. A compiler isnt actually needed yet. Wait until your very good with assembly language, machine language (I know, but its required to assemble a game into direct machine code
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I think there is an issue of nomenclature here. When you say compiler, I think you mean packaging system: you dont care if its machine code or whatever, it just needs to run on the target machine. This is a very significant difference. The actual term compiler heavily
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well,@camlorn, +1 for your poststhis is a discussion and i want to know what other people are saying@ethin, first of all, for developping a compiler, you must know about processorsyou must know the differences between x86 and x64then, you have to know about what type
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That this sounds like BGT, and I dont see why you wouldnt just use that.In terms of 3D audio, Im pretty sure Im the only person on the block for anything under $10k, and its not ready. Its close enough to ready that you can get it running, but its not ready.As
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well,about python, im not using itand i cant say so much about itC++ is two hard, and i want to make the life easyerbut i lisson to all of the ideas, and then ill implement itmaybe, ill use luajit and LLVM
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Im not saying use Python. Im not sure why so many blind people are against Python, but there are plenty of other languages that are just as good as it. My list of packages applies to Python, but was merely an illustrative example: similar lists can be compiled
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A home-brew compiler isnt the answer: if youre looking for community contributions, then a compiler is too complex. Not to mention the fact that its going to be ugly and hard to understand, at least unless its something youve done before. Most worthwhile contributions
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@visualstudio, one thing that you should use is Flex and Bison. Since a compiler requires you learn assembly language, I do not recommend it for a beginner. Try flex and bison. See how that goes.@camlorn, I love your analogy of the situation. +1 for that.@visualstudio
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I was considering flex and bison when making my compiler comments. I do not know anyone who doesnt use those or a similar tool these days; there are advantages to recursive descent parsers, but theyre a lot more work to write. Flex and bison probably arent even the best
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