Re: Introducing Forge, an ACcessible version of Magic: the Gathering

Re: Introducing Forge, an ACcessible version of Magic: the Gathering Alan,I'll hopefully get a demo up this weekend, but here's a quick description of the way the UI works. I'm not sure how familiar you are with Magic, but I'll assume you've at least read the basic rules, or at any rate

Re: Introducing Forge, an ACcessible version of Magic: the Gathering

Re: Introducing Forge, an ACcessible version of Magic: the Gathering Hey there!Thanks for all your effort, it has the potential to become a great accessible game.I am able to start a game of some kind, however, once playing, it's really hard to understand what is happening...Could someone

Re: Introducing Forge, an ACcessible version of Magic: the Gathering

Re: Introducing Forge, an ACcessible version of Magic: the Gathering Hi All,I thought I'd try something a bit different than my usual and talk a little about what's currently possible, where my accessibility efforts are focused next, that kind of thing.At the moment, it is possible to play

Re: Introducing Forge, an ACcessible version of Magic: the Gathering

Re: Introducing Forge, an ACcessible version of Magic: the Gathering JaceK,The ones i use most often are "C," for combat view, "L," to open the log, and "s," to open the stack. There are a few others but those are about 90-95% of them. It's really a fundamentally mouse-based UI, which the

Re: Introducing Forge, an ACcessible version of Magic: the Gathering

Re: Introducing Forge, an ACcessible version of Magic: the Gathering So is there a list of keyboard shortcuts? URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/547746/#p547746 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com

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Re: Introducing Forge, an ACcessible version of Magic: the Gathering Sorry for the double post. Regarding Golden Cursor, what I've done personally for the game in the past was set bookmarks to the titles of the various windows, so that you'd have one for your hand, one for your opponent's

Re: Introducing Forge, an ACcessible version of Magic: the Gathering

Re: Introducing Forge, an ACcessible version of Magic: the Gathering Hi,You're doing an amazing job.  I would gladly pay you money for this.I've not had time to play yet, but from what I've gathered, quest mode lets you unlock cards while playing.  Really like this, progression in this

Re: Introducing Forge, an ACcessible version of Magic: the Gathering

Re: Introducing Forge, an ACcessible version of Magic: the Gathering Sorry for the double post. Regarding GOlden Cursor, what I've odn epersonally for the game in the past was set bookmarks to the titles of the various windows, so that you'd have one for your hand, one for your opponent's

Re: Introducing Forge, an ACcessible version of Magic: the Gathering

Re: Introducing Forge, an ACcessible version of Magic: the Gathering JaceK,Golden Cursor has nothing to do with the in-game shortcuts. All S does currently is pop up the stack window. I can probably easily modify it to move system focus there when you press that key, though. I'm going to

Re: Introducing Forge, an ACcessible version of Magic: the Gathering

Re: Introducing Forge, an ACcessible version of Magic: the Gathering Hey @Zklein:Do I need the Golden Cursor stuff for the S key to get to the stack window or not? If not is there any way to jump to it? URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/547711/#p547711 -- Audiogames-reflector

Re: Introducing Forge, an ACcessible version of Magic: the Gathering

Re: Introducing Forge, an ACcessible version of Magic: the Gathering Hi:I got the game running. I didn't make it far, mostly because I didn't really understand what I was doingso the audio demo would be helpful. Really looking forward to playing this properly; this is a rare opportunity

Re: Introducing Forge, an ACcessible version of Magic: the Gathering

Re: Introducing Forge, an ACcessible version of Magic: the Gathering JaceK,I'm glad you got it working. I've been curious about plane chase for a while but never really played a game in it.One thing I know for sure is that the current handling of selecting cards from zones is a little

Re: Introducing Forge, an ACcessible version of Magic: the Gathering

Re: Introducing Forge, an ACcessible version of Magic: the Gathering JaceK,I'm glad you got it working. I've been curious about plane chase for a while but never really played a game in it.One thing I know for sure is that the current handling of selecting cards from zones is a little

Re: Introducing Forge, an ACcessible version of Magic: the Gathering

Re: Introducing Forge, an ACcessible version of Magic: the Gathering So now I got this working it is awesomely good URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/547648/#p547648 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com

Re: Introducing Forge, an ACcessible version of Magic: the Gathering

Re: Introducing Forge, an ACcessible version of Magic: the Gathering JaceK,That is a checkbox, I believe. You can activate those the way you normally would, in addition to clicking on them. You can also use nvda-enter or tab to them and press space.What you're missing in this case is

Re: Introducing Forge, an ACcessible version of Magic: the Gathering

Re: Introducing Forge, an ACcessible version of Magic: the Gathering I've not got that far. Maxed out the window, and using NVDA's left click does nothing at all. Am I missing something?For instance, I want to activate the Planewalker mode (I know it as Planechase from the MTG videogames),

Re: Introducing Forge, an ACcessible version of Magic: the Gathering

Re: Introducing Forge, an ACcessible version of Magic: the Gathering DRG,The bookmarks are useful when you actually get to a match. To get back from the quest screen, you need to click on "Constructed," which is one of the menu items in that same area as Quest, pUzzle, etc. In general,

Re: Introducing Forge, an ACcessible version of Magic: the Gathering

Re: Introducing Forge, an ACcessible version of Magic: the Gathering thanks so much for the help Zkline, i've put the golden cursor in the right place and the positions are displayed when using the shortcut to open them with the forge window opened.but in what cases does it help? there are

Re: Introducing Forge, an ACcessible version of Magic: the Gathering

Re: Introducing Forge, an ACcessible version of Magic: the Gathering tayo.bethel wrote:hI:I'm thinking of trying this, but my screen resolution would seem to be too low; mine is 13 x768. Can I still try to run the game?Yes, give it a try! I think even the golden cursor hotspots will work

Re: Introducing Forge, an ACcessible version of Magic: the Gathering

Re: Introducing Forge, an ACcessible version of Magic: the Gathering tayo.bethel,I think you will probably be okay. The Golden Cursor bookmarks aren't necessary, just save some time. It's possible to add/create your own. IF you position the mouse over any part of the game screen, which you

Re: Introducing Forge, an ACcessible version of Magic: the Gathering

Re: Introducing Forge, an ACcessible version of Magic: the Gathering hI:I'm thinking of trying this, but my screen resolution would seem to be too low; mine is 13 x768. Can I still try to run the game? URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/547622/#p547622 -- Audiogames-reflector

Re: Introducing Forge, an ACcessible version of Magic: the Gathering

Re: Introducing Forge, an ACcessible version of Magic: the Gathering Ertay and all,I want to play this game which is one reason I work on it so readily. I'm partial to draft decks, as it's a whole mini game on its own, but I can definitely appreciate the appeal of pre-constructed ones.

Re: Introducing Forge, an ACcessible version of Magic: the Gathering

Re: Introducing Forge, an ACcessible version of Magic: the Gathering Thanks for your great work zkline. I will definitely need to take a look at this at some point since it has pre-constructed decks, I'm too lazy to construct my own . URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/547615/#p547615

Re: Introducing Forge, an ACcessible version of Magic: the Gathering

Re: Introducing Forge, an ACcessible version of Magic: the Gathering @zklineIF i'm not mistaking, then  the default client resolution is 800 times 600, no matter what your resolution is, So it should work for everyone i think!Thanks for all the work you've done for this client! You've done

Re: Introducing Forge, an ACcessible version of Magic: the Gathering

Re: Introducing Forge, an ACcessible version of Magic: the Gathering PatrykKYour loss. I said I intend to offer a demo at some point soon, and was happy to help as much as I can. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/547588/#p547588 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list

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Re: Introducing Forge, an ACcessible version of Magic: the Gathering I will delete it. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/547586/#p547586 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com

Re: Introducing Forge, an ACcessible version of Magic: the Gathering

Re: Introducing Forge, an ACcessible version of Magic: the Gathering This file is just for the screen resolution of 1920x1080, I didn't touch the  game's resolution because i didn't understand what it did, exactly. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/547582/#p547582 --

Re: Introducing Forge, an ACcessible version of Magic: the Gathering

Re: Introducing Forge, an ACcessible version of Magic: the Gathering @everyone, Using golden cursor will save you a lot of time, because as soon as the mouse is placed somewhere, then your nbda object navigation focus jumps to there, so you can continue going left and right using

Re: Introducing Forge, an ACcessible version of Magic: the Gathering

Re: Introducing Forge, an ACcessible version of Magic: the Gathering sneak,I'm not the best person to give actual Magic advice, but if you learn the rules of the game you can maybe start with one of the welcome decks. In the "Constructed," match type, you can set each player to use a

Re: Introducing Forge, an ACcessible version of Magic: the Gathering

Re: Introducing Forge, an ACcessible version of Magic: the Gathering I've got everything up and running. Is there any advice as to where to begin as a complete newbe? I see there are many different styles of matches, as well as a quest and puzzle mode or something. I guess what I'm asking,

Re: Introducing Forge, an ACcessible version of Magic: the Gathering

Re: Introducing Forge, an ACcessible version of Magic: the Gathering jescat277,You don't put the folder in app data, the game does that automatically when you run it for the first time. You just put the files in the right places and restarts nd it works. URL:

Re: Introducing Forge, an ACcessible version of Magic: the Gathering

Re: Introducing Forge, an ACcessible version of Magic: the Gathering Drg,You put the file in %appdata%\nvda\add ons\golden cursor\mouse positions, or something like that. It should just work if it's in the right place. The other thing you need to do is to maximize the Forge window.

Re: Introducing Forge, an ACcessible version of Magic: the Gathering

Re: Introducing Forge, an ACcessible version of Magic: the Gathering I've always wanted to play the game, all though i don't really understand the install instructions. Can you even put a folder in appdata? URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/547549/#p547549 --

Re: Introducing Forge, an ACcessible version of Magic: the Gathering

Re: Introducing Forge, an ACcessible version of Magic: the Gathering Zkline, thanks so much for this awesome news! I got the latest snapshot, the preferences file you have provided, then i downloaded golden cursor for NVDA since i'm using the same resolution as you, and would like to know

Re: Introducing Forge, an ACcessible version of Magic: the Gathering

Re: Introducing Forge, an ACcessible version of Magic: the Gathering Firefly,THe updater is just an item in the Game settings menu. It downloads a temporary archive which you can just extract/override. You go to "Game settings," then "Content downloaders," and the updater is in there.

Re: Introducing Forge, an ACcessible version of Magic: the Gathering

Re: Introducing Forge, an ACcessible version of Magic: the Gathering Hi Zkline! Where can i find the updater-programm for the snapshots? Is it allready included or do i have to download it manually? URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/547542/#p547542 -- Audiogames-reflector

Re: Introducing Forge, an ACcessible version of Magic: the Gathering

Re: Introducing Forge, an ACcessible version of Magic: the Gathering JaceK,You need to navigate the screen a bit using NVDA commands, like insert+numpad 4 and 6, or NVDA-shift-arrow keys, depending on whether you have a numpad or not.The home screen is a bit confusing, but you basically

Re: Introducing Forge, an ACcessible version of Magic: the Gathering

Re: Introducing Forge, an ACcessible version of Magic: the Gathering Hi,thanks for that, a bit of experimenting let me figure this out after sending that. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/547534/#p547534 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list

Re: Introducing Forge, an ACcessible version of Magic: the Gathering

Re: Introducing Forge, an ACcessible version of Magic: the Gathering dan_c,A .tar.bz2 file is just an archive, like .zip. If you grab WinRar, 7ZIp, or any other programs, you can just extract it to a folder like c:\forge, and from there you can run forge.exe.ashleygrobler04, I will

Re: Introducing Forge, an ACcessible version of Magic: the Gathering

Re: Introducing Forge, an ACcessible version of Magic: the Gathering So how would I go from starting the game up to playing a match then?Currently got the Lclick for avatar bit up and dunno what to do from there URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/547532/#p547532 --

Re: Introducing Forge, an ACcessible version of Magic: the Gathering

Re: Introducing Forge, an ACcessible version of Magic: the Gathering @28 try using a tool like 7 zip you can find it at 7-zip.org if i am not mistaken. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/547531/#p547531 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list

Re: Introducing Forge, an ACcessible version of Magic: the Gathering

Re: Introducing Forge, an ACcessible version of Magic: the Gathering would it be able to make the UI usable without making use of only the object navigation of nvda? else, keep up the good work. thanx a lot for this. i could not really manage to start a mach, because lol i don't know what

Re: Introducing Forge, an ACcessible version of Magic: the Gathering

Re: Introducing Forge, an ACcessible version of Magic: the Gathering So um... I feel like an idiot, but the snapshot appears to be a tar.bzt file or something similar.  I've nevver seen one like this before, so how to I get it to run?  I've tried extracting with no dice. URL:

Re: Introducing Forge, an ACcessible version of Magic: the Gathering

Re: Introducing Forge, an ACcessible version of Magic: the Gathering I don't have a problem with the card database, mostly because I just use the search function to find individual cards anyhow. It's less necessary now than a while back when mana costs weren't readable in the forge app

Re: Introducing Forge, an ACcessible version of Magic: the Gathering

Re: Introducing Forge, an ACcessible version of Magic: the Gathering Hi,firstly, thank you so, so much for this.  I've been wanting to play Magic for literally years.  Kind of disappointed in the magic card database though, you seem to have to click on every card to view it's details. 

Re: Introducing Forge, an ACcessible version of Magic: the Gathering

Re: Introducing Forge, an ACcessible version of Magic: the Gathering JaceK,One of the little annoyances I intend to fix soon is that when you select a deck type, you're taken back to the first part of the game screen. It's weird, but I already know the code which causes it and will

Re: Introducing Forge, an ACcessible version of Magic: the Gathering

Re: Introducing Forge, an ACcessible version of Magic: the Gathering JaceK,One of the little annoyances I intend to fix soon is that when you select a deck type, you're taken back to the first part of the game screen. It's weird, but I already know the code which causes it and will

Re: Introducing Forge, an ACcessible version of Magic: the Gathering

Re: Introducing Forge, an ACcessible version of Magic: the Gathering There we go got it working. Now to figure how to start a game. Oh hell yes Ajani's ultimate cheese deck's in here, yes, hello life for /every/ creature that enters play. Used to piss everyone off in DotP2012 with that

Re: Introducing Forge, an ACcessible version of Magic: the Gathering

Re: Introducing Forge, an ACcessible version of Magic: the Gathering This sounds awesome! I'll be keeping an eye on this thing and try it when I've grown tired of Slay the Spire. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/547517/#p547517 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list

Re: Introducing Forge, an ACcessible version of Magic: the Gathering

Re: Introducing Forge, an ACcessible version of Magic: the Gathering PatrykK,It is definitely possible to play. It just takes a bit of getting used to.As I said I will try to record a demo later this week to showcase how to do it. The key is to get used to the way the windows are laid out.

Re: Introducing Forge, an ACcessible version of Magic: the Gathering

Re: Introducing Forge, an ACcessible version of Magic: the Gathering JaceK,Could you clarify? There isn't even a  window that opens when you run it? What happens if you just run the .jar file directly? URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/547509/#p547509 -- Audiogames-reflector

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Re: Introducing Forge, an ACcessible version of Magic: the Gathering Im able to start a match, but when Im trying to play, hmm not possible to play that thingy, dude! URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/547508/#p547508 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list

Re: Introducing Forge, an ACcessible version of Magic: the Gathering

Re: Introducing Forge, an ACcessible version of Magic: the Gathering It doesn't work under Linux, nope...or if it does I'm missing something.But as for Windows. Reinstalled Win10 on this VM, everything else works. But, the latest snapshot doesn't at all. I installed the the JRE from April

Re: Introducing Forge, an ACcessible version of Magic: the Gathering

Re: Introducing Forge, an ACcessible version of Magic: the Gathering JaceK,Huh. I never thought to try running it under Linux. It should probably work similarly there, I just talked about NVDA because it's what I know many people use, I am a native Mac person myself.Regardless, I'm not

Re: Introducing Forge, an ACcessible version of Magic: the Gathering

Re: Introducing Forge, an ACcessible version of Magic: the Gathering @Zklein:I've had it load up fine on my host OS (Linux) so I know how long it takes, though I spun up a win10 VMinstalled the latest Java and tried to start it. That's where I'm at right now URL:

Re: Introducing Forge, an ACcessible version of Magic: the Gathering

Re: Introducing Forge, an ACcessible version of Magic: the Gathering When I run it, and starts the game, the NVDA seems to dont read anything. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/547502/#p547502 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com

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Re: Introducing Forge, an ACcessible version of Magic: the Gathering JaceK,Maybe it's taking a bit to load? The first 30-45 seconds it's processing all the cards and such. I've never had it just do nothing, that sounds very weird. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/547500/#p547500

Re: Introducing Forge, an ACcessible version of Magic: the Gathering

Re: Introducing Forge, an ACcessible version of Magic: the Gathering Okay this is odd. I installed the JDK and now it just...does nothing? URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/547499/#p547499 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com

Re: Introducing Forge, an ACcessible version of Magic: the Gathering

Re: Introducing Forge, an ACcessible version of Magic: the Gathering PatrykK,What exactly happens when you run it? I can't troubleshoot if you don't give a bit more detail than that. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/547497/#p547497 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list

Re: Introducing Forge, an ACcessible version of Magic: the Gathering

Re: Introducing Forge, an ACcessible version of Magic: the Gathering Helo.I just unzipped.And it seems to dont work with mine NVDA. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/547495/#p547495 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com

Re: Introducing Forge, an ACcessible version of Magic: the Gathering

Re: Introducing Forge, an ACcessible version of Magic: the Gathering No, it's probably going to need something like Winrar or 7ZIp. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/547485/#p547485 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com

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Re: Introducing Forge, an ACcessible version of Magic: the Gathering Downloading.But, do it is ekstractable via windows file browser? URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/547483/#p547483 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com

Re: Introducing Forge, an ACcessible version of Magic: the Gathering

Re: Introducing Forge, an ACcessible version of Magic: the Gathering Yeah, one of the things which could be improved and I hope to fix is that some of the things that you can click on or not actually identified as buttons. They are technically labels, but you can still click on them to

Re: Introducing Forge, an ACcessible version of Magic: the Gathering

Re: Introducing Forge, an ACcessible version of Magic: the Gathering it's just a little hard to navigate and click on the options, but i guess as time goes on, this game will improve. and some of the buttons aren't labled. but good game so far. URL:

Re: Introducing Forge, an ACcessible version of Magic: the Gathering

Re: Introducing Forge, an ACcessible version of Magic: the Gathering I'm going to try this out. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/547477/#p547477 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com

Re: Introducing Forge, an ACcessible version of Magic: the Gathering

Re: Introducing Forge, an ACcessible version of Magic: the Gathering torn between slay the spire and Forge. Good job Zkline, and thank you for it! Finaly, i always wanted to play magic. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/547433/#p547433 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list

Re: Introducing Forge, an ACcessible version of Magic: the Gathering

Re: Introducing Forge, an ACcessible version of Magic: the Gathering Yees accessible MTG is a real thing! Mind blown! URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/547429/#p547429 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com

Re: Introducing Forge, an ACcessible version of Magic: the Gathering

Re: Introducing Forge, an ACcessible version of Magic: the Gathering No... No way... this didn't just happen. Thank you to anyone who has worked on this. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/547403/#p547403 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list

Re: Introducing Forge, an ACcessible version of Magic: the Gathering

Re: Introducing Forge, an ACcessible version of Magic: the Gathering It is definitely very interesting, the current accessibility is very good, but you do need to use the mouse cursor a lot. The most frustrating aspect is that for reasons, sometimes the reading order of the game changes,

Re: Introducing Forge, an ACcessible version of Magic: the Gathering

Re: Introducing Forge, an ACcessible version of Magic: the Gathering OK, it sounds very, very interesting. lets go to give it a try thanks for do the work with the pull requests ̂̂ URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/547398/#p547398 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list

Introducing Forge, an ACcessible version of Magic: the Gathering

Introducing Forge, an ACcessible version of Magic: the Gathering Hi ALl,I've been working on this project for a  few weeks now and finally feel like it's in a fit state to present a bit more widely. Things are still evolving, but it's quite a bit better than when I found it, so here we

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